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  Sornin

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Joined: 2/28/07
Posts: 1138

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4/05/13 5:13:44 AM#41
Originally posted by PerfArt
Originally posted by winter

I don't believe in the Hypemeter. Its just a way for haters or fans to lie about a game they know almost nothing about. It wasn't but 5 months ago that DFUW was the most hyped game and look what a mess thats turned out to be.

Personally I haven't used the Hypemeter but heres what we do know about CU.

The facts as we currently know them.

CU is a low budget game being developed by a indie developer. Its main selling points is its a rip off of DAoC, and has Mark Jacobs on its team.

its Cons.

Low budget which has not actually yet been met.

Inexperienced team being lead by MJ the guy that made Warhammer (if you love warhammer and are still playing it consider it a positive, but then if thats true why are you here? :) ), and the same guy that put the nail in DAoC's coffin with TOA

Game itself is not actually in developement yet. They are currently showing off the software and tools that they are working on to eventually develop the game.

Many elements that made DAoC great will not be in CU. No PVE means no dungeons, no, monsters and no Darkness falls type dungeons to fight over. In theory if you log in on a slow night there will be no one to fight.

 

   Blind Fanboism Hyping won't make the game better. t may sucker a few more backers into kickstarting the game, but those same backers will later become haters when the game doesn't live up to the 10/10 hype.

 

 

 

Now you are just copy/pasting yourself from other threads. Literally. Why are you here if you hate the idea of this game so much? Seems like a waste of time, dude. I certainly wouldn't want to spend my time that way.

Apparently blind "trollism" is better than blind "fanboyism?" I don't know, either.

  BeansnBread

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 5414

4/05/13 5:15:17 AM#42
Originally posted by Sornin
Originally posted by PerfArt
Originally posted by winter

I don't believe in the Hypemeter. Its just a way for haters or fans to lie about a game they know almost nothing about. It wasn't but 5 months ago that DFUW was the most hyped game and look what a mess thats turned out to be.

Personally I haven't used the Hypemeter but heres what we do know about CU.

The facts as we currently know them.

CU is a low budget game being developed by a indie developer. Its main selling points is its a rip off of DAoC, and has Mark Jacobs on its team.

its Cons.

Low budget which has not actually yet been met.

Inexperienced team being lead by MJ the guy that made Warhammer (if you love warhammer and are still playing it consider it a positive, but then if thats true why are you here? :) ), and the same guy that put the nail in DAoC's coffin with TOA

Game itself is not actually in developement yet. They are currently showing off the software and tools that they are working on to eventually develop the game.

Many elements that made DAoC great will not be in CU. No PVE means no dungeons, no, monsters and no Darkness falls type dungeons to fight over. In theory if you log in on a slow night there will be no one to fight.

 

   Blind Fanboism Hyping won't make the game better. t may sucker a few more backers into kickstarting the game, but those same backers will later become haters when the game doesn't live up to the 10/10 hype.

Now you are just copy/pasting yourself from other threads. Literally. Why are you here if you hate the idea of this game so much? Seems like a waste of time, dude. I certainly wouldn't want to spend my time that way.

Apparently blind "trollism" is better than blind "fanboyism?" I don't know, either.

Wait... who are you trying to sting with that comment?

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Isawa

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Joined: 6/20/08
Posts: 1065

4/05/13 5:23:41 AM#43

Only good thing about this game so far is that Mark Jacobs frequents the forums. Lots of talk and concept art, but at least it is coming from the head guy on the project. Hope it does well, but I don't really care until another year or so of progress.

Having this game highly rated on the hype meter is somewhat ridiculous, as it probably has the least amount of actual work put into it compared to the others on the list so far.

Pretty much the epitome of how hype plays people here, great stuff in that regard

  User Deleted
4/05/13 5:23:58 AM#44
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter... I think if it was at the top, it would help the Kickstarter fund as well, hopefully people stop doing this, or what not, so it can stay at the top.... It's unfortunate that people are trying to keep it down on purpose. I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

its so wrong that they are doing that.

im with you man,they should allow people to kick CU up on purpose.

and allow kickstarter idea fans to vote it up to 11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY

  Sornin

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Joined: 2/28/07
Posts: 1138

Too weird to live, and too rare to die

4/05/13 5:26:41 AM#45
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Sornin
Originally posted by PerfArt
Originally posted by winter

I don't believe in the Hypemeter. Its just a way for haters or fans to lie about a game they know almost nothing about. It wasn't but 5 months ago that DFUW was the most hyped game and look what a mess thats turned out to be.

Personally I haven't used the Hypemeter but heres what we do know about CU.

The facts as we currently know them.

CU is a low budget game being developed by a indie developer. Its main selling points is its a rip off of DAoC, and has Mark Jacobs on its team.

its Cons.

Low budget which has not actually yet been met.

Inexperienced team being lead by MJ the guy that made Warhammer (if you love warhammer and are still playing it consider it a positive, but then if thats true why are you here? :) ), and the same guy that put the nail in DAoC's coffin with TOA

Game itself is not actually in developement yet. They are currently showing off the software and tools that they are working on to eventually develop the game.

Many elements that made DAoC great will not be in CU. No PVE means no dungeons, no, monsters and no Darkness falls type dungeons to fight over. In theory if you log in on a slow night there will be no one to fight.

 

   Blind Fanboism Hyping won't make the game better. t may sucker a few more backers into kickstarting the game, but those same backers will later become haters when the game doesn't live up to the 10/10 hype.

Now you are just copy/pasting yourself from other threads. Literally. Why are you here if you hate the idea of this game so much? Seems like a waste of time, dude. I certainly wouldn't want to spend my time that way.

Apparently blind "trollism" is better than blind "fanboyism?" I don't know, either.

Wait... who are you trying to sting with that comment?

Clearly the person who is trolling while making fun of fanboys. That, to me, is always the saddest forum activity, even worse than plain trolling.

  winter

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2158

4/05/13 5:27:00 AM#46
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

  No more retarded really then rating a game a 10/10  becuase of the "Idea' behind it which will probably be changes at least slightly over the next 2 years of developement

  If your gonna rate every game ever developed on the Ideas the Dev had at the very start rather then on whats actually there then i assume almost every game is a 10/10 to you. Warhammers a 10/10, SWTOR is a 10/10 because you have to admit in the beginning the Devs had some great "Ideas"

 

   Perhaps we should pass every senior in high school no matter how bad their scores are because in preschool they all had great "Ideas"

  wordiz

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/13/12
Posts: 481

4/05/13 5:33:36 AM#47

I gotta say, this is the hardest hype train I think I've ever seen.

I played DAoC. The idea of new, similar title by people that worked on it is awsome, but the game is way too early in development. I know I'm beating a dead horse by saying that, but it's a rational fact.

To be complaining about how people are bashing it, while it's number one on the hype meter is starting to get a little borderline facist. You can't force everyone to think like you.

I'm still trying to figure out if this is the DAoC community hyping it up, which I totally understand...or if it's the younger generation that missed out on DAoC's glory days and want a piece for themselves. Either way, I share your excitement, however there are other promising titles coming much sooner than CU.

P.S. 

Tell them to give Age of Conan: Unchained it's name back.

trollololol

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  winter

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2158

4/05/13 5:36:08 AM#48
Originally posted by Sornin
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Sornin
Originally posted by PerfArt
Originally posted by winter

I don't believe in the Hypemeter. Its just a way for haters or fans to lie about a game they know almost nothing about. It wasn't but 5 months ago that DFUW was the most hyped game and look what a mess thats turned out to be.

Personally I haven't used the Hypemeter but heres what we do know about CU.

The facts as we currently know them.

CU is a low budget game being developed by a indie developer. Its main selling points is its a rip off of DAoC, and has Mark Jacobs on its team.

its Cons.

Low budget which has not actually yet been met.

Inexperienced team being lead by MJ the guy that made Warhammer (if you love warhammer and are still playing it consider it a positive, but then if thats true why are you here? :) ), and the same guy that put the nail in DAoC's coffin with TOA

Game itself is not actually in developement yet. They are currently showing off the software and tools that they are working on to eventually develop the game.

Many elements that made DAoC great will not be in CU. No PVE means no dungeons, no, monsters and no Darkness falls type dungeons to fight over. In theory if you log in on a slow night there will be no one to fight.

 

   Blind Fanboism Hyping won't make the game better. t may sucker a few more backers into kickstarting the game, but those same backers will later become haters when the game doesn't live up to the 10/10 hype.

Now you are just copy/pasting yourself from other threads. Literally. Why are you here if you hate the idea of this game so much? Seems like a waste of time, dude. I certainly wouldn't want to spend my time that way.

Apparently blind "trollism" is better than blind "fanboyism?" I don't know, either.

Wait... who are you trying to sting with that comment?

Clearly the person who is trolling while making fun of fanboys. That, to me, is always the saddest forum activity, even worse than plain trolling.

 Because reason and facts are sad? (perhaps, reality does suck at times) Did I state anywhere i hate the game? No, but I do prefer a realistic view over blind fanboism. Sure attack me for not hyping a game 10/10 for its "ideas"  (I also did not rate it a 1/10 I just didn't rate it) in the end I think I'll be the happer person should the game be releaased as I won't have unrealistic expectations from all the BS hype.

  Isawa

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Joined: 6/20/08
Posts: 1065

4/05/13 5:42:42 AM#49
Wow...Camelot Unchained just hit a 8.21, not even on the chart. Maybe posts like this backfire from shear scale of fanboism and set everything ablaze? I'd like to think so
  winter

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2158

4/05/13 5:47:07 AM#50
Originally posted by PerfArt
Originally posted by winter

I don't believe in the Hypemeter. Its just a way for haters or fans to lie about a game they know almost nothing about. It wasn't but 5 months ago that DFUW was the most hyped game and look what a mess thats turned out to be.

Personally I haven't used the Hypemeter but heres what we do know about CU.

The facts as we currently know them.

CU is a low budget game being developed by a indie developer. Its main selling points is its a rip off of DAoC, and has Mark Jacobs on its team.

its Cons.

Low budget which has not actually yet been met.

Inexperienced team being lead by MJ the guy that made Warhammer (if you love warhammer and are still playing it consider it a positive, but then if thats true why are you here? :) ), and the same guy that put the nail in DAoC's coffin with TOA

Game itself is not actually in developement yet. They are currently showing off the software and tools that they are working on to eventually develop the game.

Many elements that made DAoC great will not be in CU. No PVE means no dungeons, no, monsters and no Darkness falls type dungeons to fight over. In theory if you log in on a slow night there will be no one to fight.

 

   Blind Fanboism Hyping won't make the game better. t may sucker a few more backers into kickstarting the game, but those same backers will later become haters when the game doesn't live up to the 10/10 hype.

 

 

 

Now you are just copy/pasting yourself from other threads. Literally. Why are you here if you hate the idea of this game so much? Seems like a waste of time, dude. I certainly wouldn't want to spend my time that way.

 If you have any reaasons or facts why everyone should rate CU a 10/10 at this timeaas the OP  seems to suggest I'd love to hear them.

  I'm not hear telling people to rate it a 1/10 in fact if anything I'm here trying to tell people not to rate a game sight unseen/untested. Seems that idea makes me a troll to some.

   As to why i'm here its 3 am in the morning i work night shift and I'm bored and this just happened to be one of the major threads that was up while i was suffer this site on the internet.. (Oh and i also don't care for TV much generally not much on at 3 am in the morning other then reruns)

  meddyck

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Posts: 1108

4/05/13 5:50:18 AM#51

I confess I dropped my hype from 9 to 7 after the 10,000 models video made me wonder whether CSE is planning for fights on a scale that I think would be boring and stupid. But I like the TDD concepts shown and will likely bump it back up in a few days.

Mostly though don't pay any attention to the hype meter. It's about as meaningless as which forum gets the most posts daily (ours probably lol).

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  fs23otm

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4/05/13 5:52:27 AM#52
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter... I think if it was at the top, it would help the Kickstarter fund as well, hopefully people stop doing this, or what not, so it can stay at the top.... It's unfortunate that people are trying to keep it down on purpose. I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

So people who don't like the game who vote 1 are wrong... yet it is fine if people who like the game vote 10?

Talk about being a hypocrite.

  Kyleran

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4/05/13 5:53:03 AM#53
Originally posted by skyexile

 


Originally posted by JimmyYO
It doesn't exactly have much competition other then TESO so wouldnt be too concerned with any hype meter fluctuations. Afterall, DF Unholy Wars was at the top not to long ago.

 

I'm more concerned about all these gamers willing to throw money at developers before they're even put to work despite the fact that every MMO in the past decade was a crapshoot full of unfullfilled promises, Warhammer Online being one of the biggest offenders..............


 

name a open world mmo pvp game released in the last 7 years with better pvp than WAR.

WAR was on open world MMO pvp game?  You could attack anyone, anywhere outside a few small safe zones?  (a la Mordred on DAOC, and not the blue servers)

That's not how I recall it, seems to have been more of an RVR style game with combat restricted to certain areas, but was a long time ago that I played it.

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  morfidon

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Joined: 2/19/13
Posts: 245

4/05/13 5:58:36 AM#54
Originally posted by meddyck

I confess I dropped my hype from 9 to 7 after the 10,000 models video made me wonder whether CSE is planning for fights on a scale that I think would be boring and stupid. But I like the TDD concepts shown and will likely bump it back up in a few days.

Mostly though don't pay any attention to the hype meter. It's about as meaningless as which forum gets the most posts daily (ours probably lol).

They shown it to show how optimized it is not that we will meet 10k ppl at the screen lol. 500 models like that doing nothing but walking wouldn't make any impression. 

  bambucha

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4/05/13 5:58:59 AM#55
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter...  I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

yea me too, but im afraid thats not possible. So we'll have to learn to live with people like you giving 10's, and your virtual enemies - giving 1's to games nobody knows a thing about.

 

i like this topic though.

 

 

 

 

  Isawa

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Posts: 1065

4/05/13 6:01:20 AM#56
Originally posted by bambucha
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter...  I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

yea me too, but im afraid thats not possible. So we'll have to learn to live with people like you giving 10's, and your virtual enemies - giving 1's to games nobody knows a thing about.

i like this topic though.

Hahaha now that I have reread the underlined part, I really see how absurd it is. I haven't even voted on this game, but the topic is quite good. Plus great response :)

  PerfArt

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4/05/13 6:01:48 AM#57
@winter

I actually don't care about the hypemeter. At all. I just care about CU. Which is why I am here. A place where people who care about the game can talk about it.

Seems simple to me. But enjoy yourself. Like I said in the "no gameplay" thread, we all have our roles.

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  Myria

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Joined: 5/07/09
Posts: 484

4/05/13 6:21:28 AM#58
Originally posted by Kyleran

WAR was on open world MMO pvp game?  You could attack anyone, anywhere outside a few small safe zones?  (a la Mordred on DAOC, and not the blue servers)

There were a few PvP-anywhere WAR servers, as I recall, but, as tends to be the case with such things, they quickly died and were among the first to get axed.

Edit: Personally I've never even noticed, let alone paid attention to, the "Hype meter" on this site -- one hardly needs a meter to see what's being hyped around here.

I think the CU stuff has gone beyond hype at this point, though.

I don't think I've ever seen a 'game' that hasn't even entered development yet become a religion before.

Props to MJ, not even Anet could manage that one.

  Tsumoro

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4/05/13 6:29:10 AM#59

I actually don't get involved in all this 'hype' metre stuff. But I would say if people are able to vote a 10 then people should be able to vote a 1. So getting frustrated that your game is getting knocked down a peg should be just part of  how it works. 

This is just fan-boyism at the end of the day and these things tend to be circular in arguement. People will always vote a 10 that are really looking forward to a game. This builds hype and gets the game noticed. People then look at this nearly hyped game and some people go 'meh, not for me' and then give it a 1 to indicate they aren't very hyped for the game. 

You can't fault people for that, its their vote to use as they please. 

 

For instance, I would vote a 1 as I am not hyped about this game at all. I'll keep my eye on it, see how it shapes out... but nothing about this title grabs me at all. 

 

  meddyck

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4/05/13 7:11:23 AM#60
Originally posted by Tsumoro

For instance, I would vote a 1 as I am not hyped about this game at all. I'll keep my eye on it, see how it shapes out... but nothing about this title grabs me at all. 

I only hype a game a 1 if I think the game will be terrible. Games that I think are mediocre and don't really interest me I hype a 5.

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