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  Sornin

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Joined: 2/28/07
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Too weird to live, and too rare to die

4/05/13 4:41:28 AM#21
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Neither makes more sense than the other; it is called "hype" for a reason. There is no sense to it. There are no rules that dictate a game at some stage in development deserves more hype than another at a different stage. It is whatever a person feels like.

Oh, and Camelot Unchained is in development. Have you not seen the concept art and video of an actual in-game character model walking around? Lots of development is done on the concepts end, from races to classes, etc. Is there a working game yet? Nope, but that is not all development is.

  Qallidexz

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Joined: 5/24/12
Posts: 269

 
OP  4/05/13 4:42:44 AM#22
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5186

4/05/13 4:43:10 AM#23

It's the war of the nerds!

You do realize the hype meter is meaningless right? It's a reverse bell curve of absurdity. About as balanced and well reasoned as the Manson Family. According to that thng every MMO ever made is both the best and worst game in existance. A more honest version would have 10 as the only rating. Then at least the more popular game would be determined by the lengths the fans would go to to skew the ratings in their favor. If you really liked a game you would vote a million billion times oh golly gee.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  kadepsyson

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1966

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

4/05/13 4:43:38 AM#24
Originally posted by Sornin
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Neither makes more sense than the other; it is called "hype" for a reason. There is no sense to it. There are no rules that dictate a game at some stage in development deserves more hype than another at a different stage. It is whatever a person feels like.

Oh, and Camelot Unchained is in development. Have you not seen the concept art and video of an actual in-game character model walking around? Lots of development is done on the concepts end, from races to classes, etc. Is there a working game yet? Nope, but that is not all development is.

I can draw things on paper that look humanoid, I guess I have an MMO in development, send millions of dollars and hype it please.  Maybe someday it'll become a real thing.

 

Edit: There are categories for the hype meter.

Released - for things such as Dark Age of Camelot

In Development - for things such as Wildstar or Elder Scrolls Online

make a new one called Accepting Handouts Phase - for Camelot Unchained types that aren't being created until they've hit up enough fans for money

El Psy Congroo

  cybersurfr

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/13/04
Posts: 183

4/05/13 4:44:41 AM#25
Originally posted by Sornin
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Neither makes more sense than the other; it is called "hype" for a reason. There is no sense to it. There are no rules that dictate a game at some stage in development deserves more hype than another at a different stage. It is whatever a person feels like.

Oh, and Camelot Unchained is in development. Have you not seen the concept art and video of an actual in-game character model walking around? Lots of development is done on the concepts end, from races to classes, etc. Is there a working game yet? Nope, but that is not all development is.

 

It's non-sense, got it. Now, tell that to the worked-up OP not me since I am neutral to all this lol. I am merely speaking on their behalf for whatever justification both sides have. Carry on.

  BeansnBread

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 5548

4/05/13 4:44:42 AM#26
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

I'm not so sure that CSE would enjoy that comparison...

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  expresso

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Joined: 3/10/10
Posts: 2114

4/05/13 4:45:07 AM#27
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

Hey I have a pie in the sky idea for a game, i have nothing to show but please hype me 10/10 thankyou please.

  Sornin

Novice Member

Joined: 2/28/07
Posts: 1138

Too weird to live, and too rare to die

4/05/13 4:50:41 AM#28
Originally posted by expresso
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

Hey I have a pie in the sky idea for a game, i have nothing to show but please hype me 10/10 thankyou please.

Let us know your ideas, hire a team of developers, open a studio, and have a pedigree of shipped games with success and we just might. You make it sound like there is one crazy guy working in his mom's basement trying to collect $2M.

Anyway, it is sort of funny to see people make horrible analogies in a vain attempt to look clever, but end up just looking like a stupid troll.

  cybersurfr

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Joined: 10/13/04
Posts: 183

4/05/13 4:51:28 AM#29
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

That analogy is pretty messed up, I'm sorry. And another thing - there is no "hype meter" for education. Ease up.

  wordiz

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Joined: 6/13/12
Posts: 481

4/05/13 4:52:36 AM#30
I don't think we're looking at the same website OP.

http://thewordiz.wordpress.com/

  kadepsyson

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1966

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

4/05/13 4:52:47 AM#31
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm excited for this game. Every game starts out as nothing but a few ideas... so what? A game is ultimately just an idea put into code... but it's the IDEA that matters (and of course the code not being buggy, and with reasonably good graphix). But I'm voting for the idea here, and I think that's enough. I'm quite confident Mark and his team know how to write their idea into code, and I know things could go wrong, but so what? I'm super hyped for what Mark and his team are trying to do here, I gave it a 10/10, and I'm standing by that decision, until a day comes (god forbid) when I have a good reason not to.

 

Edit: I'm sick of this Guilty until proven innocent philosphy that people have on this site. This game isn't in development, that doesn't mean we don't have enough to go on, or that it should suck... It means that we have a fresh start.

What exactly are you mad about?

People can rate it 1/10 precisely because it isn't even on development yet. Though both are extremes, it actually makes more sense than giving it a 10/10.

Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

That analogy is pretty messed up, I'm sorry. And another thing - there is no "hype meter" for education. Ease up.

Some kids are really excited to go to school, I wouldn't be surprised if there is or had been a hype meter of sorts for that at one point :P

 

Edit - besides, don't high school grads rate their most wanted to attend colleges too?

Boom.

El Psy Congroo

  Speely

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Joined: 2/16/13
Posts: 864

4/05/13 4:52:58 AM#32
Originally posted by zymurgeist

It's the war of the nerds!

You do realize the hype meter is meaningless right? It's a reverse bell curve of absurdity. About as balanced and well reasoned as the Manson Family. According to that thng every MMO ever made is both the best and worst game in existance. A more honest version would have 10 as the only rating. Then at least the more popular game would be determined by the lengths the fans would go to to skew the ratings in their favor. If you really liked a game you would vote a million billion times oh golly gee.

Calmer than you are dude. Calmer than you are.

;)

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  Qallidexz

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OP  4/05/13 4:53:27 AM#33

I'm not sure you guys understood the analogy... Yes, it's called an analogy. I'm not worried, I think the guys at CSE are smart enough to understand what I was saying.

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

4/05/13 4:55:21 AM#34
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm not sure you guys understood the analogy... Yes, it's called an analogy. I'm not worried, I think the guys at CSE are smart enough to understand what I was saying.

I'm not sure smart is a good way to describe creating a thread about people's actions on a hype meter.

 

I have nothing better to do at 3AM than to post about how silly I think you are for making a thread about hype meter fluctuations for one newly listed game.

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  Sornin

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Too weird to live, and too rare to die

4/05/13 4:55:24 AM#35
Originally posted by PerfArt
Originally posted by zymurgeist

It's the war of the nerds!

You do realize the hype meter is meaningless right? It's a reverse bell curve of absurdity. About as balanced and well reasoned as the Manson Family. According to that thng every MMO ever made is both the best and worst game in existance. A more honest version would have 10 as the only rating. Then at least the more popular game would be determined by the lengths the fans would go to to skew the ratings in their favor. If you really liked a game you would vote a million billion times oh golly gee.

Calmer than you are dude. Calmer than you are.

;)

+1 for Big Lebowski reference, my favourite movie of all time. I pretty much have every line of dialogue burned into my brain.

These trolls are "out of their element!"

  cybersurfr

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4/05/13 4:56:34 AM#36
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Qallidexz
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Rating a game 1 out of 10 because it isn't in Development yet? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in my life.

Lets flunk pre-schoolers out of school if they can't pass their SAT's while we're at it.

That analogy is pretty messed up, I'm sorry. And another thing - there is no "hype meter" for education. Ease up.

Some kids are really excited to go to school, I wouldn't be surprised if there is or had been a hype meter of sorts for that at one point :P

 

Edit - besides, don't high school grads rate their most wanted to attend colleges too?

Boom.

Lol touche.

  Speely

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4/05/13 4:59:00 AM#37
Originally posted by Sornin
Originally posted by PerfArt
Originally posted by zymurgeist

It's the war of the nerds!

You do realize the hype meter is meaningless right? It's a reverse bell curve of absurdity. About as balanced and well reasoned as the Manson Family. According to that thng every MMO ever made is both the best and worst game in existance. A more honest version would have 10 as the only rating. Then at least the more popular game would be determined by the lengths the fans would go to to skew the ratings in their favor. If you really liked a game you would vote a million billion times oh golly gee.

Calmer than you are dude. Calmer than you are.

;)

+1 for Big Lebowski reference, my favourite movie of all time. I pretty much have every line of dialogue burned into my brain.

These trolls are "out of their element!"

Lol nice. I will never get tired of watching it. Ever. You're right about the trolls, but that's like, just their opinion, man.

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  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

4/05/13 4:59:26 AM#38
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I'm not sure you guys understood the analogy... Yes, it's called an analogy. I'm not worried, I think the guys at CSE are smart enough to understand what I was saying.

Can you repost the analogy?

 

All I really saw was that you hyped a game 10/10 and complained there was nothing you could do to stop those meanies from rating it 1/10.  What would you have them do?  Maybe you could start an mmorpg.com petition.

 

I want to quote Samir and Michael Bolton about this idea seriously man

 

 

Edit - It's an mmorpg.com, not a mmorpg.com.  I fixed my mistake.  Go me.

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  winter

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4/05/13 5:09:19 AM#39

I don't believe in the Hypemeter. Its just a way for haters or fans to lie about a game they know almost nothing about. It wasn't but 5 months ago that DFUW was the most hyped game and look what a mess thats turned out to be.

Personally I haven't used the Hypemeter but heres what we do know about CU.

The facts as we currently know them.

CU is a low budget game being developed by a indie developer. Its main selling points is its a rip off of DAoC, and has Mark Jacobs on its team.

its Cons.

Low budget which has not actually yet been met.

Inexperienced team being lead by MJ the guy that made Warhammer (if you love warhammer and are still playing it consider it a positive, but then if thats true why are you here? :) ), and the same guy that put the nail in DAoC's coffin with TOA

Game itself is not actually in developement yet. They are currently showing off the software and tools that they are working on to eventually develop the game.

Many elements that made DAoC great will not be in CU. No PVE means no dungeons, no, monsters and no Darkness falls type dungeons to fight over. In theory if you log in on a slow night there will be no one to fight.

 

   Blind Fanboism Hyping won't make the game better. t may sucker a few more backers into kickstarting the game, but those same backers will later become haters when the game doesn't live up to the 10/10 hype.

 

 

 

  Speely

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4/05/13 5:12:56 AM#40
Originally posted by winter

I don't believe in the Hypemeter. Its just a way for haters or fans to lie about a game they know almost nothing about. It wasn't but 5 months ago that DFUW was the most hyped game and look what a mess thats turned out to be.

Personally I haven't used the Hypemeter but heres what we do know about CU.

The facts as we currently know them.

CU is a low budget game being developed by a indie developer. Its main selling points is its a rip off of DAoC, and has Mark Jacobs on its team.

its Cons.

Low budget which has not actually yet been met.

Inexperienced team being lead by MJ the guy that made Warhammer (if you love warhammer and are still playing it consider it a positive, but then if thats true why are you here? :) ), and the same guy that put the nail in DAoC's coffin with TOA

Game itself is not actually in developement yet. They are currently showing off the software and tools that they are working on to eventually develop the game.

Many elements that made DAoC great will not be in CU. No PVE means no dungeons, no, monsters and no Darkness falls type dungeons to fight over. In theory if you log in on a slow night there will be no one to fight.

 

   Blind Fanboism Hyping won't make the game better. t may sucker a few more backers into kickstarting the game, but those same backers will later become haters when the game doesn't live up to the 10/10 hype.

 

 

 

Now you are just copy/pasting yourself from other threads. Literally. Why are you here if you hate the idea of this game so much? Seems like a waste of time, dude. I certainly wouldn't want to spend my time that way.

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