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  Purutzil

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4/03/13 2:40:41 PM#41

Honestly? I'm not so for it. It could be neat in a way having a class not focused on combat but at the same time it feelsl ike it brings up issues with it. Crafting and all that can get boring quick and unless its somehow done right it just to me wouldn't feel very good to play. It promotes having other characters which.... I guess is good but at the same time its not really that great.

 

Its one of those things I'm actually quite iffy about. Maybe if its done right but I just have a feeling it won't be done right.

  waynejr2

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4/03/13 2:43:30 PM#42
Originally posted by rojo6934

i dont see how non-combatant classes can fit in a game where all you will be doing is pvp pvp pvp pvp.

Unless the game doesnt fully focus on pvp like we have been told so many times.

 Think of them as pvp enablers.  They make the items that other use in pvp. What would make them interesting is being really weak pvp-wise and having to get out in the danger zone to do crafting.   To me, that opens more meaningful pvp.

  Ogrelin

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4/03/13 2:43:34 PM#43

IF there really is going to be a crafter class I welcome it, it is a new thing and that is what we need.... not the same old classes all over again.

  waynejr2

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4/03/13 2:45:54 PM#44
Originally posted by Purutzil

Honestly? I'm not so for it. It could be neat in a way having a class not focused on combat but at the same time it feelsl ike it brings up issues with it. Crafting and all that can get boring quick and unless its somehow done right it just to me wouldn't feel very good to play. It promotes having other characters which.... I guess is good but at the same time its not really that great.

 

Its one of those things I'm actually quite iffy about. Maybe if its done right but I just have a feeling it won't be done right.

 For the players who like crafting, they will get something they like.  Just like people who like mages will get casters, and warrior types will get what they want.  There will be things you want and other things you don't want.

I suspect some of the resentment in the thread are those who want their character to do it all. 

We want games to do something different but complain when we get it. 

  Karahandras

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4/03/13 2:47:57 PM#45
Originally posted by rojo6934

i dont see how non-combatant classes can fit in a game where all you will be doing is pvp pvp pvp pvp.

Unless the game doesnt fully focus on pvp like we have been told so many times.

a crafter class in what's essentially a pvp arena is just an easy target, maybe if they flesh the game out sometime after release.

  Shorun

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4/03/13 2:59:42 PM#46

I think crafter-classes add a lot to the roleplaying and feel to the world. In Ragnarok Online there was a Merchant class, which could then become Blacksmith or Alchemist. I just loved seeing merchants sit around and Blacksmiths and Alchemists producing their stuff. And then there were bards and gypsys...you get the idea, interesting classes with a little less battle-orientation can add some nice details.

  Oldskoo

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4/03/13 3:12:21 PM#47
Originally posted by Karahandras
Originally posted by rojo6934

i dont see how non-combatant classes can fit in a game where all you will be doing is pvp pvp pvp pvp.

Unless the game doesnt fully focus on pvp like we have been told so many times.

a crafter class in what's essentially a pvp arena is just an easy target, maybe if they flesh the game out sometime after release.

Perhaps, as a crafter,  I'll just stay in town smashing out weapons on my forge, McDuck through the gold piles in my house,  or just be about selling my wares to the fighters from the safety of town.

 

I really have no problem being at a disadvantage if I am needed at the front or in the wilds to help build a structure with my crafter. Either my friends will help guard my crafter as I work or the project will not get finished.

 

I think crafting will be fun. 

  Foggye

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4/03/13 3:30:57 PM#48

Chris "Foggye" Hiatt about 2 hours ago

@MJ - I understand quite well what sort of role the crafters will play. Although, I'm curious to know how well they'll be able to defend themselves from a direct attack from PvP centric classes. Are they going to be worth anything to kill as an opposing force?

Curtis D. Miller about 2 hours ago

@Chris "Foggye" Hiatt

Chris I get the impression that if your crafters have to go into hostile territory to say rebuild or build, repair a fort the realm will need to protect them while they accomplish this.

@ Curtis D. That's a given. I was just wondering if they were gonna have a few tricks, an escape tool, or are they going to be lambs for the slaughter.

Creator City State Entertainment about 2 hours ago

[MJ] Round three.

@Chris Hiatt - The crafters best defense if they are about to be overwhelmed will be prayer and foot speed. Maybe in that order, maybe not.

 

The crafters aren't by the sounds gonna be able to even start to stand toe to toe against a battle class.  Sure, you can arm yourself.  You just won't have much skill beyond it.  Similiar to the battle classes very limited ability to craft.  Though they may have more options in using siege equipment.  Their effectiveness will be in cooperation with making repairs in defenses, making ladders for the attackers, etc.  Their focus will be elsewhere, and as Curtis D mentioned there.  They'll need to be protected.

  Lawtoween

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4/03/13 6:23:38 PM#49
Originally posted by Foggye

The crafters aren't by the sounds gonna be able to even start to stand toe to toe against a battle class.  Sure, you can arm yourself.  You just won't have much skill beyond it.  Similiar to the battle classes very limited ability to craft.  Though they may have more options in using siege equipment.  Their effectiveness will be in cooperation with making repairs in defenses, making ladders for the attackers, etc.  Their focus will be elsewhere, and as Curtis D mentioned there.  They'll need to be protected.

Sounds about right to me.  CHOOSE your class, play your class, or CHOOSE another class (or another game).  I don't want casters tanking, tanks healing, or healers nuking.  Why should crafters be any of those three? 

Honestly, how many times have you heard someone complain about the squishy character who thought he should lead the charge?  Doesn't that drive you nuts?  If you believe tanks should be in front and taking the damage, and healers and casters behind healing and dishing damage, then you already agree that crafters should be the "squishiest of all."

When you backed this game, you didn't want rock / paper / scissors / concrete-bunker-encased-self-healing-nuke did you?  If so, you might want to reconsider your pledge.  MJ has said there will be no easy mode, and that players will have to work together.

I, for one, can't wait!

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  evil13

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4/03/13 6:38:20 PM#50

As long as crafters have a lot of things to do, and those things are fun, sure, why not have a pure crafter class. As has been pointed out, there are people who would enjoy playing such a class who may not have much desire for RvR (especially fast-paced none siege RvR) Heck, I spent a month in eve playing a pure crafter, buying supplies, making stuff then selling, and had a blast doing it.

 

Plus, think of the RvR potential this has. Say you capture an important landmark and want to build a fort around it to help defend, to build a fort you need crafters, but crafters suck at pvp and need protection. Well, right there you have a "get this crafters to such n such location safely" quest that had just been created by the players themselves. Will you be able to protect those crafters and get them there safely? will the opposing realms try to intercept you? Think of the excitement :)

  Arbroath

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4/03/13 7:56:16 PM#51
MJ has mentioned that he would like to have many character slots available for alts. My concern is that even though your characters can't have great fighting and crafter skills, what stops everyone from making a crafter alt and saturating the class? I definately plan on playing a crafter as my main and worry about becoming just another crafter like the 1000s of alt crafters that will be out there. Making me obsolete like every other game I've played.

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  redcapp

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4/03/13 8:31:49 PM#52
Originally posted by meddyck

I'm not sure it does.

This class will play an important role in various siege related things according to Mark. But as anybody who played DAOC, WAR, etc. will tell you, not all of your time in RvR is spent sieging. If you have a crafter in your group in an open field battle, you will be at a big disadvantage against an enemy group full of the other classes.

I suppose it is possible crafters will also get weak combat abilities. But if you are going to do that, why not just make crafting like it is in other games including DAOC: something you can train in addition to your regular class rather than a class in itself? Then you could be a caster/crafter, tank/crafter, healer/crafter, etc.

I'm just not seeing the advantage or need for crafting to be a class by itself.

The fact that the idea wouldn't have made sense in DAoC or WAR really has no bearing on whether or not it makes sense in CU.  New game, new mechanics.  Being built from the ground up with an entire crafting class in mind.  Yes, it makes sense. 

  Tumblebutz

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4/03/13 9:20:34 PM#53
Originally posted by redcapp

*snip*

The fact that the idea wouldn't have made sense in DAoC or WAR really has no bearing on whether or not it makes sense in CU.  New game, new mechanics.  Being built from the ground up with an entire crafting class in mind.  Yes, it makes sense. 

This.  I'm all for lively discussion and good ol' fashioned theorycraft... but until we know a little more about the design of the game, we really can't tell how useful, squishy, overplayed, gimped or any other adjective the class will be.

I am hopeful the design will make crafters powerful, useful and very playable.  Again, I think it's kinda silly to try to conjure up the class and its abilities (we really don't know what they will be) and then plop them into DAoC (we really don't know how similar or dissimilar CU will be to DAoC.)

 

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  Daventry85

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4/03/13 9:41:50 PM#54

I think this is a Love and Hate situation , i alot of the time try out a games crafting mechanics and enjoy it. I think it may be frustrating in a sense if you have no battle skills and have to go in dangerous conflicted zones to gather the best materials and you just get rolled without any skills of your own...

 

However i still think it is a risk vs reward that i enjoy. I'm sure there are alot more into it , maybe they get speed boost / cc abilities of their own for survival. I think this comes back to some of my fond DaoC memorys that he was talking about for unique experiences.

 

Picture mining a rare node in comes enemy realms, you have perfectly set traps and a escape route ready to be used and you survive to tell the tale it would be exciting.

 

Im all for it.

  bcbully

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4/03/13 9:44:11 PM#55

Crafter class is pretty cool, but can't everyone craft?

  evil13

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4/03/13 9:52:18 PM#56

Think of miners (or haulers/traders) in EVE they had no defense too and the most expensive ore was in low sec and 0.0 security (where you could be killed) so guilds would organize mining operations, complete with defense and even scouts to make sure a raid wasn't coming.

 

No reason it couldn't work like this in CU. If you want that shiny sword and don't want to pay a fortune for it, you better run as an escort for that crafter. As long as risk vs reward makes sense, it wouldn't be a problem.

 

PS: or they could make a crafter into a sort of engineer on steroids, complete with bombs, traps, mines, auto shooting cannons etc. Though based on what Mark said so far it doesn't seem to be the direction they are taking.

  grogstorm

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4/04/13 12:23:53 AM#57

This is what I have gathered so far on crafters…

Yes everyone can craft but non crafter classes are limited to the basic tier so they can repair their own gear to some degree, make ammo, help repair defenses and maybe build your own basic home.  To make anything from the higher tiers of crafting you will have to be a crafter.

As to RvR participation I have a far fewer details other that building all the structures and siege equipment as well as repairing the same.

Now for what I’d like to see the crafter to be able to do in RvR that is an extensive list and will be expressed at a later time.  But I do see a crafter as not having any offensive skill himself but can run like the wind and drop all sorts of nasty devices to thwart his pressures (limited supply).  Mainly I expect to be building defensive positions along with crowd funneling devices.

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  itchmon

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4/04/13 12:29:59 AM#58

my sister (basically the most beloved person in my life) is in the army reserves; she plays PC games casually but isnt a gamer like me.

 

when i explained to her that in this game you could basically be "logistics" even she was very interested in playing it.

 

i bet she's not alone :)

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  Scrat^ITA

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4/04/13 3:34:28 AM#59
I love the idea of a full crafter class, I'll probably focus on that and casually play a "warrior" alt

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  Sornin

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4/04/13 3:49:45 AM#60
I really hope ex-SWG players hear about how fleshed-out crafting in Camelot Unchained will be. I know many of them loved that aspect of SWG and I bet thousands would pledge to a game promising a deep crafting system where you actually had a real role. Crafting in most games these days is something you do for fun after you max your level, and it is a boring grind to make anything semi-decent, which is still eclipsed by drops.

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