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General Discussion  » Be Warned the game looks to be very short!

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  zevenzeros

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OP  4/02/13 5:18:13 PM#21
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I know what this guy's done from my experience in the last beta weekend. He's put his blinkers on, ignored all the side missions and just followed the main storyline events. He's probably bypassed 70% of the content.

 

I did the same thing with my first character. Took me around 4 hours to get all the way to the last Storyline Mission (in the beta that is), and when that was complete, all those "side missions" vanished off the map. So I made a new char and at each stage of the main mission, new side missions became available on the map. I'd then go and do all of those before moving on to the next main mission.

 

By doing this my 2nd char played the rest of the weekend and only made it about half way through the main storyline. So yeah, you can probably get through the main story in fairly short order, but there is other stuff going on. If you paid for the game you may as well take advantage of that content. Seems a waste to just bypass it all.

Thread should have ended with this post tbh.

Yeah i guess you could say the game has some more side quests to do, but even if that doubles the ammount of time it takes like say 15 hours main story and 15 hours side quests game still is only 30 hours. After that you have Ark falls which seem to be worthless from what i understand, PvP which looks ok but you could really do that in better games and a couple of Coop instances i think like 4? I would be more ok with the main story being short if the game map was huge! and had lots of side missions and random events going on. Sadly its a very tiny map.

  fascism

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4/02/13 5:20:43 PM#22
still longer than the new Bioshock
  JeroKane

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4/02/13 5:22:57 PM#23
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I know what this guy's done from my experience in the last beta weekend. He's put his blinkers on, ignored all the side missions and just followed the main storyline events. He's probably bypassed 70% of the content.

 

I did the same thing with my first character. Took me around 4 hours to get all the way to the last Storyline Mission (in the beta that is), and when that was complete, all those "side missions" vanished off the map. So I made a new char and at each stage of the main mission, new side missions became available on the map. I'd then go and do all of those before moving on to the next main mission.

 

By doing this my 2nd char played the rest of the weekend and only made it about half way through the main storyline. So yeah, you can probably get through the main story in fairly short order, but there is other stuff going on. If you paid for the game you may as well take advantage of that content. Seems a waste to just bypass it all.

Thread should have ended with this post tbh.

How so?

Even the available side missions included, you get about 30 hours worth of content tops! That's it!

For comparison, I have spend over 200 hours in Skyrim and still haven't completed all the non-story content, still haven't explored the complete map and discovered every cave, dungeon, hidden content, have barely scratched the surface of crafting and still have a way to go in leveling / progressing my character!

The main storyline alone in Skyrim took me over 40 hours to complete. That is already more than all content of Defiance combined.

Defiance doesn't even come close.

  mmoguy43

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4/02/13 5:25:32 PM#24
If the game is so short, you'd hope that the content would be pretty high quality.

Let's build the ultimate MMO 1 feature at a time
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/398555/page/1

  fascism

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4/02/13 5:27:26 PM#25
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I know what this guy's done from my experience in the last beta weekend. He's put his blinkers on, ignored all the side missions and just followed the main storyline events. He's probably bypassed 70% of the content.

 

I did the same thing with my first character. Took me around 4 hours to get all the way to the last Storyline Mission (in the beta that is), and when that was complete, all those "side missions" vanished off the map. So I made a new char and at each stage of the main mission, new side missions became available on the map. I'd then go and do all of those before moving on to the next main mission.

 

By doing this my 2nd char played the rest of the weekend and only made it about half way through the main storyline. So yeah, you can probably get through the main story in fairly short order, but there is other stuff going on. If you paid for the game you may as well take advantage of that content. Seems a waste to just bypass it all.

Thread should have ended with this post tbh.

How so?

Even the available side missions included, you get about 30 hours worth of content tops! That's it!

For comparison, I have spend over 200 hours in Skyrim and still haven't completed all the non-story content, still haven't explored the complete map and discovered every cave, dungeon, hidden content, have barely scratched the surface of crafting and still have a way to go in leveling / progressing my character!

Defiance doesn't even come close.

You will never complete all the non story content in Skyrim

  Adren

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4/02/13 5:27:35 PM#26
Think about it tho if its 12 hrs to beat the game now maybe in every episode theres another 12 hours to the story mode added im sure after every episode they wouldnt add just a small amount of content during every episode
  JeroKane

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4/02/13 5:30:19 PM#27
Originally posted by Adren
Think about it tho if its 12 hrs to beat the game now maybe in every episode theres another 12 hours to the story mode added im sure after every episode they wouldnt add just a small amount of content during every episode

LOL! They spend 2 years giving us the 30 hours of content we got now. And you think they can deliver 12 hours worth of content every single week with each episode?

I would love to know what you are smoking! I would like some of it as well. lol.

  bestever

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4/02/13 5:30:24 PM#28
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I know what this guy's done from my experience in the last beta weekend. He's put his blinkers on, ignored all the side missions and just followed the main storyline events. He's probably bypassed 70% of the content.

 

I did the same thing with my first character. Took me around 4 hours to get all the way to the last Storyline Mission (in the beta that is), and when that was complete, all those "side missions" vanished off the map. So I made a new char and at each stage of the main mission, new side missions became available on the map. I'd then go and do all of those before moving on to the next main mission.

 

By doing this my 2nd char played the rest of the weekend and only made it about half way through the main storyline. So yeah, you can probably get through the main story in fairly short order, but there is other stuff going on. If you paid for the game you may as well take advantage of that content. Seems a waste to just bypass it all.

Thread should have ended with this post tbh.

How so?

Even the available side missions included, you get about 30 hours worth of content tops! That's it!

For comparison, I have spend over 200 hours in Skyrim and still haven't completed all the non-story content, still haven't explored the complete map and discovered every cave, dungeon, hidden content, have barely scratched the surface of crafting and still have a way to go in leveling / progressing my character!

The main storyline alone in Skyrim took me over 40 hours to complete. That is already more than all content of Defiance combined.

Defiance doesn't even come close.

The main story took you 40 hours. LOL My friend beat the story in like 9 hours. The story is very short sorry. What makes skyrim long is the side quest.

  JeroKane

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4/02/13 5:36:28 PM#29
Originally posted by bestever
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I know what this guy's done from my experience in the last beta weekend. He's put his blinkers on, ignored all the side missions and just followed the main storyline events. He's probably bypassed 70% of the content.

 

I did the same thing with my first character. Took me around 4 hours to get all the way to the last Storyline Mission (in the beta that is), and when that was complete, all those "side missions" vanished off the map. So I made a new char and at each stage of the main mission, new side missions became available on the map. I'd then go and do all of those before moving on to the next main mission.

 

By doing this my 2nd char played the rest of the weekend and only made it about half way through the main storyline. So yeah, you can probably get through the main story in fairly short order, but there is other stuff going on. If you paid for the game you may as well take advantage of that content. Seems a waste to just bypass it all.

Thread should have ended with this post tbh.

How so?

Even the available side missions included, you get about 30 hours worth of content tops! That's it!

For comparison, I have spend over 200 hours in Skyrim and still haven't completed all the non-story content, still haven't explored the complete map and discovered every cave, dungeon, hidden content, have barely scratched the surface of crafting and still have a way to go in leveling / progressing my character!

The main storyline alone in Skyrim took me over 40 hours to complete. That is already more than all content of Defiance combined.

Defiance doesn't even come close.

The main story took you 40 hours. LOL My friend beat the story in like 9 hours. The story is very short sorry. What makes skyrim long is the side quest.

I call bullocks! Even on Easymode the main storyline takes much longer than 9 hours!

On first normal playthrough it took the average player 30 hours.

On first playthrough for the more hardcore peeps it took about 18 hours. And that is rushing and without using exploits!

  User Deleted
4/02/13 5:39:47 PM#30

Honestly, if you didn't see this coming you've really gotta take off your blinders.  

NDA was just lifted a week or two ago (bad sign), two of Trion's longtime studio execs jump ship without warning a month or two before launch, TV show is set in St. Louis yet the game is set in San Francisco, shall I keep going?

I'm a sucker for new MMO's and will typically throw some money at almost any piece of garbage in hopes that it might be decent, and even I stayed clear of this one. 

 

 

  flizzer

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4/02/13 5:41:25 PM#31
Originally posted by zevenzeros
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I know what this guy's done from my experience in the last beta weekend. He's put his blinkers on, ignored all the side missions and just followed the main storyline events. He's probably bypassed 70% of the content.

 

I did the same thing with my first character. Took me around 4 hours to get all the way to the last Storyline Mission (in the beta that is), and when that was complete, all those "side missions" vanished off the map. So I made a new char and at each stage of the main mission, new side missions became available on the map. I'd then go and do all of those before moving on to the next main mission.

 

By doing this my 2nd char played the rest of the weekend and only made it about half way through the main storyline. So yeah, you can probably get through the main story in fairly short order, but there is other stuff going on. If you paid for the game you may as well take advantage of that content. Seems a waste to just bypass it all.

Thread should have ended with this post tbh.

Yeah i guess you could say the game has some more side quests to do, but even if that doubles the ammount of time it takes like say 15 hours main story and 15 hours side quests game still is only 30 hours. After that you have Ark falls which seem to be worthless from what i understand, PvP which looks ok but you could really do that in better games and a couple of Coop instances i think like 4? I would be more ok with the main story being short if the game map was huge! and had lots of side missions and random events going on. Sadly its a very tiny map.

Wow, it just seems gamers year after year have diminished expectations with these games.  Im so glad I didnt preorder this.  Im going to pay 60 dollars for such a short experience.? You got halfway through in a weekend!   I consider that a sad state of affairs for a new game launch.  What happened to massive game worlds?   

  zevenzeros

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OP  4/02/13 5:42:31 PM#32
Originally posted by Adren
Think about it tho if its 12 hrs to beat the game now maybe in every episode theres another 12 hours to the story mode added im sure after every episode they wouldnt add just a small amount of content during every episode

I really dont see them adding anything with each episode as the game really has nothing to do with the tv show other then being in the same world. The game is based in San Fransisco and the show is Based in St Louis 2 different story lines i think.

  Redcor

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4/02/13 5:47:05 PM#33
Originally posted by fat_taddler

Honestly, if you didn't see this coming you've really gotta take off your blinders.  

NDA was just lifted a week or two ago (bad sign), two of Trion's longtime studio execs jump ship without warning a month or two before launch, TV show is set in St. Louis yet the game is set in San Francisco, shall I keep going?

I'm a sucker for new MMO's and will typically throw some money at almost any piece of garbage in hopes that it might be decent, and even I stayed clear of this one. 

 

 

 Thank You, I came on after the last beta and said the game failed as a shooter and as an rpg and had some folks jump my shit. I had high hopes but I'm glad I didn't burn MY $60 on this. I told them all we'll revisit the conversation in a month if their still playing and I bet they wont be.

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  GrayGhost79

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4/02/13 5:50:02 PM#34

Well yeah lol, if you skip the bulk of the content it is a short game. Then again, even though he/she skipped most of the content they still aren't "finished" since the game progresses as the TV show progresses lol. UO and FFXI are pretty short games as well if you skip the bulk of the content. 

 

  UnrealRpg

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4/02/13 5:55:32 PM#35
So you rather spend $60 on a game that has maybe 8 hours of story. Once you beat it you'll never touch again rather than a $60 game that has more to do than just the story? So it takes 14 hours to beat the story line quest. There still is plenty to do. Think about Skyrim...the main story line quest doesn't take that long to beat at all but its about the gameplay and game rather than just the story.
  Doogiehowser

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4/02/13 5:57:50 PM#36
Originally posted by zevenzeros
I have chose to wait it out as im pretty sure this game will go free to play at some point. Free to play with a good cash shop and decent expansions for like 10-20$ every new season of the tv show seems like what this game should have been.

Not again.... it is a B2P MMO it won't go F2P. Learn the difference. The box price will always be there and game already has a cash shop. I bet you find out  about this game just like an hour ago?

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  Swanea

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4/02/13 5:58:04 PM#37
People will always rush to end game "to be first" and for the "end game content". I think it should be called WoW Syndrome honestly.  That game created the NEED to be top level asap to play.
  GrayGhost79

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4/02/13 5:59:28 PM#38
Originally posted by UnrealRpg
So you rather spend $60 on a game that has maybe 8 hours of story. Once you beat it you'll never touch again rather than a $60 game that has more to do than just the story? So it takes 14 hours to beat the story line quest. There still is plenty to do. Think about Skyrim...the main story line quest doesn't take that long to beat at all but its about the gameplay and game rather than just the story.

Bah, I just came back to edit my post and add Skyrim and Oblivion but you beat me to it lol. 

 

I'm sure everyone remembers how Skyrim was beaten in a mere 2 hours by the guy that beat Fallout 3 in 75 minutes.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/113646-Skyrim-Beaten-In-Just-Over-Two-Hours

 

Skyrim, nor Fallout 3 were short games. If of course you rush through and skip the majority of the content then yes the game can be short, very short indeed.  

  zevenzeros

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OP  4/02/13 6:05:53 PM#39
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by zevenzeros
I have chose to wait it out as im pretty sure this game will go free to play at some point. Free to play with a good cash shop and decent expansions for like 10-20$ every new season of the tv show seems like what this game should have been.

Not again.... it is a B2P MMO it won't go F2P. Learn the difference. The box price will always be there and game already has a cash shop. I bet you find out  about this game just like an hour ago?                 

People like you really blow my mind! either you didnt read my post at all or your just plain dumb. In my post i clearly state that i think the game will go free to play at some point. At no point in time did i express that i did not understand what b2p or buy to play means. clearly as you stated "learn the difference"  makes little to no sense. At no point in time have i said the game is free to play or even remotely hinted that it is. I said i think the game will go free to play at some point and i think it should have launched free to play. How is that even hard to understand.

  bestever

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4/02/13 6:07:08 PM#40
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by bestever
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I know what this guy's done from my experience in the last beta weekend. He's put his blinkers on, ignored all the side missions and just followed the main storyline events. He's probably bypassed 70% of the content.

 

I did the same thing with my first character. Took me around 4 hours to get all the way to the last Storyline Mission (in the beta that is), and when that was complete, all those "side missions" vanished off the map. So I made a new char and at each stage of the main mission, new side missions became available on the map. I'd then go and do all of those before moving on to the next main mission.

 

By doing this my 2nd char played the rest of the weekend and only made it about half way through the main storyline. So yeah, you can probably get through the main story in fairly short order, but there is other stuff going on. If you paid for the game you may as well take advantage of that content. Seems a waste to just bypass it all.

Thread should have ended with this post tbh.

How so?

Even the available side missions included, you get about 30 hours worth of content tops! That's it!

For comparison, I have spend over 200 hours in Skyrim and still haven't completed all the non-story content, still haven't explored the complete map and discovered every cave, dungeon, hidden content, have barely scratched the surface of crafting and still have a way to go in leveling / progressing my character!

The main storyline alone in Skyrim took me over 40 hours to complete. That is already more than all content of Defiance combined.

Defiance doesn't even come close.

The main story took you 40 hours. LOL My friend beat the story in like 9 hours. The story is very short sorry. What makes skyrim long is the side quest.

I call bullocks! Even on Easymode the main storyline takes much longer than 9 hours!

On first normal playthrough it took the average player 30 hours.

On first playthrough for the more hardcore peeps it took about 18 hours. And that is rushing and without using exploits!

Belive what you want. He had the main story beat by the next day. Sorry the story is short.

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