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  FromHell

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4/01/13 3:57:40 PM#21
Originally posted by wizyy

Yeah, how can any other upcoming game be better than this 

- ArcheAge siege 500 vs 500 players (on test server):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

nice, nice in a test environment.

 

in reality, it will be a lag fest.

 

 

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  Mtibbs1989

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4/01/13 3:58:27 PM#22
Originally posted by ragz45
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by ragz45
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by archeageking

Finally A $50 million dollar budget sandbox with many mamany many many many and even more sandbox features then any other current so called sandboxes deserves better hype then camelot and fake elder scrolls online (both are not sandboxes).

 

AA deserves mroe attention then those so called not sandbox fantasy games.

 Archeage will be hyped up for the North American audiance when the game starts to be revealed by TRION. So hold your horses. Besides, games like ESO and CU will kill themselves off long before the games are released. Long live the mighty words spoken by Mark Jacobs(Lead Developer of CU/Mythic), "Working as intended."

I would like to see the link to a quote where MJ ever said working as intended.  I've seen Blizz CM's use that phrase often, but I've never ever seen MJ use that phrase.

 You must have never played Warhammer Online. You're forgiven.

Played WH for about a year, I still don't recall MJ ever saying this.

 You never remember listening to the random comments and questions by the playerbase regarding complete class imbalance or bugs and MJ laughing and simply saying, "working as intended."?

 Weird, because I was playing the same game for 2 years and remember the comments. Go ahead and praise your false idol MJ and see if CU doesn't follow the same route as WAR.


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  coretex666

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4/01/13 4:33:37 PM#23
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by archeageking

Finally A $50 million dollar budget sandbox with many mamany many many many and even more sandbox features then any other current so called sandboxes deserves better hype then camelot and fake elder scrolls online (both are not sandboxes).

 

AA deserves mroe attention then those so called not sandbox fantasy games.

Sandbox is a niche product and ArcheAge is not really a pure sandbox but a hybrid.  With that being said AA is an Asian MMO and will be as about as popular as Aion in the West.  Thats a fact!

 

CU will be another Niche game which would do well to aquire 100k subscribers.

 

ESO is the next mega-huge Triple-A MMO which will pull in millions of players.  With that being said, only time will tell if most of those stick around.  If the game offers enough content and features enough TES like gameplay then it should be poised to grow.

Source of this "fact" please :D

Let me guess, you are not a big fan of ArcheAge, but you are a fan of ESO, right?

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  Mtibbs1989

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4/01/13 5:01:11 PM#24
Originally posted by coretex666
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by archeageking

Finally A $50 million dollar budget sandbox with many mamany many many many and even more sandbox features then any other current so called sandboxes deserves better hype then camelot and fake elder scrolls online (both are not sandboxes).

 

AA deserves mroe attention then those so called not sandbox fantasy games.

Sandbox is a niche product and ArcheAge is not really a pure sandbox but a hybrid.  With that being said AA is an Asian MMO and will be as about as popular as Aion in the West.  Thats a fact!

 

CU will be another Niche game which would do well to aquire 100k subscribers.

 

ESO is the next mega-huge Triple-A MMO which will pull in millions of players.  With that being said, only time will tell if most of those stick around.  If the game offers enough content and features enough TES like gameplay then it should be poised to grow.

Source of this "fact" please :D

Let me guess, you are not a big fan of ArcheAge, but you are a fan of ESO, right?

 From what I understood Aion did decently at its launch. However, I believe the grind was too much for most of the carebears/content locust customers to handle which would be where I think he's getting these facts. Overall, I believe that Azzamasin thinks that if the game doesn't cater to the content locust/carebears that the game will be a flop.

 I do believe his idea holds true to a point. If the game is very grindy it won't appeal to the common MMO customer of today. So they won't make as much money as World of Warcraft is off of their loot pinata game. However, there's a major downside to catering to the common MMO customer. They're content locust/instant gratification consumers which means they'll eat their way through the content faster than the developers can create it. Which in turn kills the game.

 However, this is good for the true customers who want a real MMO. It prolongs the life of a game by adding the grind and spawn camping. The game also has a massive world. So there's other things to do if someone wants to take their mind off of the mindless grind in the game. There's gathering gathering materials, building homes, farming, exploration by land or sea, and there's plenty of PvP.

 Just becuase it's a Eastern MMO doesn't mean it'll suffer the same fate as other Eastern MMO's. I believe Aion failed in the western audiance just like every other new MMO. It's a very shallow and linear game that does not have a large emersive world to explore.


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  Karteli

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4/02/13 9:56:52 AM#25
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by wizyy

Yeah, how can any other upcoming game be better than this 

- ArcheAge siege 500 vs 500 players (on test server):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

nice, nice in a test environment.

 

in reality, it will be a lag fest.

I don't get all the rage with huge fights anyways.  It might sound immersive on paper, but in reality it's just a bunch of people who don't want to work together, trying to participate in a war they never trained for.  What you end up with is a bunch of people goofing off, going afk, etc.  For no good reason other than because they can, and few would even notice.

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  CyclopsSlayer

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4/02/13 11:11:04 AM#26
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by wizyy

Yeah, how can any other upcoming game be better than this 

- ArcheAge siege 500 vs 500 players (on test server):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

nice, nice in a test environment.

 

in reality, it will be a lag fest.

I don't get all the rage with huge fights anyways.  It might sound immersive on paper, but in reality it's just a bunch of people who don't want to work together, trying to participate in a war they never trained for.  What you end up with is a bunch of people goofing off, going afk, etc.  For no good reason other than because they can, and few would even notice.

Part of the deal with the Seiges is one of the core endgame mechanics, Player Factions.

While not released yet, Korean players and media were reporting on what had been said in the past about them so far;

-Limited claim locations on the 3rd continent. 38 regions were mentioned.

-Once a single Expeditionary Force (Guild) claims 4 or more of those regions, they can declare themselves as an Independent Faction. And are no longer under Eastern/Western faction rules.

-Player guilds are limited at creation to only 1 factions members, ie. A Nuain could not join a Ferre/Hariharan Expeditionary Force (Guild). Once they become an Independent Faction they can have members from any race.

  Karteli

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4/02/13 4:10:03 PM#27
Originally posted by CyclopsSlayer
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by wizyy

Yeah, how can any other upcoming game be better than this 

- ArcheAge siege 500 vs 500 players (on test server):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

nice, nice in a test environment.

 

in reality, it will be a lag fest.

I don't get all the rage with huge fights anyways.  It might sound immersive on paper, but in reality it's just a bunch of people who don't want to work together, trying to participate in a war they never trained for.  What you end up with is a bunch of people goofing off, going afk, etc.  For no good reason other than because they can, and few would even notice.

Part of the deal with the Seiges is one of the core endgame mechanics, Player Factions.

While not released yet, Korean players and media were reporting on what had been said in the past about them so far;

-Limited claim locations on the 3rd continent. 38 regions were mentioned.

-Once a single Expeditionary Force (Guild) claims 4 or more of those regions, they can declare themselves as an Independent Faction. And are no longer under Eastern/Western faction rules.

-Player guilds are limited at creation to only 1 factions members, ie. A Nuain could not join a Ferre/Hariharan Expeditionary Force (Guild). Once they become an Independent Faction they can have members from any race.

No doubt it will be nice.  Bigger siege battles get logistically harder to manage and harder to fill.  Having a guild attendence failure in a large scale "lopsided" fight might mean an inevitable failure.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  DavisFlight

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4/02/13 4:12:05 PM#28
Originally posted by archeageking

Finally A $50 million dollar budget sandbox with many mamany many many many and even more sandbox features then any other current so called sandboxes deserves better hype then camelot and fake elder scrolls online (both are not sandboxes).

 

AA deserves mroe attention then those so called not sandbox fantasy games.

Deserves more hype than the spiritual successor to one of the best MMOs ever made? No.

  jtcgs

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4/02/13 4:23:47 PM#29

This biggest roadblock for this game becoming a hit in the west is its FFA structure.

FFA games rarely do well here, in fact I cant remember the last FFA game that did better than Ultima Online...

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  Karteli

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4/02/13 4:26:23 PM#30
Originally posted by jtcgs

This biggest roadblock for this game becoming a hit in the west is its FFA structure.

FFA games rarely do well here, in fact I cant remember the last FFA game that did better than Ultima Online...

Probably Eve...

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  InporylemQQ

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4/02/13 4:27:00 PM#31
Originally posted by jtcgs

This biggest roadblock for this game becoming a hit in the west is its FFA structure.

FFA games rarely do well here, in fact I cant remember the last FFA game that did better than Ultima Online...

It's getting safer each patch probably in the time when it gets to West it will have forced PVE servers. You won't loose anything when you die so it's kinda impossible to compare it to UO (except that new insurance shit ofc).

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  jtcgs

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4/02/13 4:31:16 PM#32

Originally posted by Karteli


Originally posted by jtcgs

This biggest roadblock for this game becoming a hit in the west is its FFA structure.

FFA games rarely do well here, in fact I cant remember the last FFA game that did better than Ultima Online...

Probably Eve...

Eve doesnt count, space based game.

Originally posted by inporylemQQ


Originally posted by jtcgs

This biggest roadblock for this game becoming a hit in the west is its FFA structure.

FFA games rarely do well here, in fact I cant remember the last FFA game that did better than Ultima Online...

It's getting safer each patch probably in the time when it gets to West it will have forced PVE servers. You won't loose anything when you die so it's kinda impossible to compare it to UO (except that new insurance shit ofc).

 I only compared it to UO by its FFA since that is what I was talking about. FFA games dont do very well in the west and if they do end up creating PvE servers and focus on advertising that, it DOES deserve more hype and to do well. I would play it then.

 

 

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  FromHell

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4/02/13 4:35:19 PM#33

Archeage will be really cool.

Certainly cooler than some hyped RvR zerg game which only exists on paper. But hey people throw their money at the silliest things.

 

 

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  User Deleted
4/02/13 4:37:21 PM#34
Originally posted by inporylemQQ
Originally posted by jtcgs

This biggest roadblock for this game becoming a hit in the west is its FFA structure.

FFA games rarely do well here, in fact I cant remember the last FFA game that did better than Ultima Online...

It's getting safer each patch probably in the time when it gets to West it will have forced PVE servers. You won't loose anything when you die so it's kinda impossible to compare it to UO (except that new insurance shit ofc).

This.

  pokrak

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4/02/13 4:39:47 PM#35

hate brings hate

OP is just another f troll

  User Deleted
4/02/13 4:42:46 PM#36
Originally posted by FromHell

Archeage will be really cool.

Certainly cooler than some hyped RvR zerg game which only exists on paper. But hey people throw their money at the silliest things.

 

 

Mrpgs started out on paper... so the concept isnt too hard to understand depending on where you started

  LordSneerg

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4/02/13 4:45:07 PM#37
Hate on hater. TESO will be here way before AA. I was looking forward to AA but the more I hear about TESO the more I am thinking that is the game for me. 
  steelwind

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4/02/13 5:16:34 PM#38

I do share the OP's frustration, since I usually only navigate via the MMORPG main page or real time page, it is frustrating to see the great majority of discussion revolving around CU. It would be different if this game was more than a concept or releasing within a year or so. It just baffles my mind that a game in only the concept stage has nearly taken over all discussions on this site. As soon as other topics are indeed made, they are quickly buried by CU wishes and dreams.

At the same time, there are countless haters that seem hell bent of warping Archeage with misinformation such as "just another themepark" which it is very very far from. I just come to the conclusion that many if not most MMO'ers will buy their game by IP not feature set. Archeage is a perfect example of that. A game with the most ambicious feature set of any MMO's in that past 8 years if ever but peeps just want their familiar IP regardless if it realisitically has a feature set that will maintain any long term commitment.

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4/02/13 5:22:21 PM#39
Originally posted by LordSneerg
Hate on hater. TESO will be here way before AA. I was looking forward to AA but the more I hear about TESO the more I am thinking that is the game for me. 

AA is being released in the west later this year.  Dunno about TESO, but I imagine it's such a big IP that it could get away with being released early, with bugs fixed at a later time, like SWTOR did.

 

TESO sounded interesting at first, then I heard about the invisible walls, impassable moutains, and exhaustion points used to isolate each faction permanently, with exception to PVP instances.  Glad ArcheAge doesn't do that.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  wizyy

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4/02/13 6:30:09 PM#40
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by CyclopsSlayer
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by wizyy

Yeah, how can any other upcoming game be better than this 

- ArcheAge siege 500 vs 500 players (on test server):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

nice, nice in a test environment.

 

in reality, it will be a lag fest.

I don't get all the rage with huge fights anyways.  It might sound immersive on paper, but in reality it's just a bunch of people who don't want to work together, trying to participate in a war they never trained for.  What you end up with is a bunch of people goofing off, going afk, etc.  For no good reason other than because they can, and few would even notice.

Part of the deal with the Seiges is one of the core endgame mechanics, Player Factions.

While not released yet, Korean players and media were reporting on what had been said in the past about them so far;

-Limited claim locations on the 3rd continent. 38 regions were mentioned.

-Once a single Expeditionary Force (Guild) claims 4 or more of those regions, they can declare themselves as an Independent Faction. And are no longer under Eastern/Western faction rules.

-Player guilds are limited at creation to only 1 factions members, ie. A Nuain could not join a Ferre/Hariharan Expeditionary Force (Guild). Once they become an Independent Faction they can have members from any race.

No doubt it will be nice.  Bigger siege battles get logistically harder to manage and harder to fill.  Having a guild attendence failure in a large scale "lopsided" fight might mean an inevitable failure.

So not even one of you even bothered to watch the youtube video? LOL

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