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  Phry

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3/30/13 9:28:20 AM#21
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by GreenHell
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Kingmob23
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Its to late now. WoW is old news. Really far away from todays standards.

It has it fans still. But it wouldnt really grow in revenue

...and yet vastly more enjoyable than the newer news such as GW2 and TSW.

Yeah.. well Cata screwed that one for me.  Worst expansion ever.

why do feel that way about Cata?

A few reasons.

Story was boring compared to Wotlk.  The whole dragons disguised as humans thing never really took off for me, Deathwing's story was subpar, and Garrosh was pretty painful too.

Zones were a chore.  The only good one was Deepholm.  Vash'jr was so awful I wanted to poke my eyes out...

Raids were dull compared to the excitement of ICC and its more memorable bosses, or even Sunwell for that matter.

It just felt "tacked on" and I imagine a lot of it was probably because of Ghostcrawler not being good at his job.  Most people I've talked to agree that it was the worst xpac, but opinions vary obviously.  I know it was the one that saw a huge loss of players compared to the previous xpacs.

For the sake of those remaining in the game, I hope MoP is better.

i think Cataclysm and MoP had something in common, some of the zones it was more a case of enduring rather than enjoying, and i tend to agree about Deepholm and Vash'jr neither one imo had any redeeming features, but you missed out 2 very crucial fails, that both expansions added to the game, one added the worgen, and the other panda's both imo were close to epic fails, i still think the game is worth playing, but, on a personal note, the game wasnt really improved that much by either expansion, MoP if anything had a touch of desperation about it, perhaps thats why i never actually levelled all my toons up, i did have fun in MoP but not enough to stay the course, i'll probably go back to it in a month or three, or six, but currently im busy in other games, like Asherons Call, on frostfell server

  Eir_S

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3/30/13 9:33:06 AM#22
Originally posted by Phry

you missed out 2 very crucial fails, that both expansions added to the game, one added the worgen, and the other panda's both imo were close to epic fails

Holy crap, you're right.  Well I can't say much about the pandas since I don't know their lore, I just know the female ones look ridiculous.  But the worgens were a MASSIVE disappointment for me.  See, when I first heard they were going to be a playable race, I was excited.  Then instead of the cool, bloodthirsty looking worgen from vanilla, we got some furry fan art and cheesy voice acting.  And the females looked even worse than the female pandas......

........to say nothing of the constant sniffing when someone went AFK.

Maybe I'm just bitter that they didn't add a playable Tuskar race. :p

  Thane

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3/30/13 9:38:50 AM#23

what if they gave you a porsche for free, would you drive it. 

even tho you would have to pay for fuel, taxes and so on?!

 

 

 

 

it's silly question time!

blizz wont go f2p, why should they.

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  strangiato2112

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3/30/13 9:40:54 AM#24
Of course it would make WoW's player base bigger.  But a) the community is already bad enough without the f2p crowd and more importantly b) it would likely hurt Blizzard's revenue.
  jtcgs

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3/30/13 9:42:32 AM#25
Originally posted by Thane

what if they gave you a porsche for free, would you drive it. 

even tho you would have to pay for fuel, taxes and so on?!

 

it's silly question time!

blizz wont go f2p, why should they.

 Actually no, I would not drive it.

I would sell it and buy a car I actually like.

Its only a silly question to those that arent actually thinking about it...

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  TehTic

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3/30/13 9:46:31 AM#26
Wow players are very loyal and at present there is not a game out there that can touch the rating  experience wow  offers. I would not expect this game to go free to play until blizzard actually releases their next generation MMO. Though we have a couple great titles on the horizon such as Elder scrolls online and WildStar, I honestly do not believe as it stands that either one can be the next King of MMO's. Though I really hope that one of these can at least be competitive in the rating experience. Because Wow's  mechanics and graphics are quite outdated and I really could use a new home. On the other hand blizzard has done extremely well because of their intuitive raid content  which keeps  hard-core players and tight niche groups paying their $15. Which inspires average players to attempt to get top end gear, in turn paying their $15.
  achesoma

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3/30/13 9:55:13 AM#27
No need to go F2P.  They have a very loyal customer base.  Could see it going F2P after Titan releases and is proven successful.  Even then it will most likely only be free as part of a Titan sub.  Something similar to SOE all access pass.

  User Deleted
3/30/13 9:56:45 AM#28

All the signs suggest that is were it is headed... they keep testing the waters with all their other titles.  Hearthstone being the latest test campaign.  My bet is that "Titan" won't be a sub-based game and they are just working out how to do it.

 

It's not a matter of "if" it's a matter of "when".  They are going to watch Hearthstone very closely, if it turns out to be a huge success... it will become the next business model.

  bliss14

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3/30/13 9:58:55 AM#29

The original question was not whether it was a good idea or not to go free2play but what would happen if it did. 

I would log back on to check out my warlock and maybe fly around a while.  Maybe poke around my various banks.   I don't think it would last very long though.

  jesteralways

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3/30/13 10:18:27 AM#30
Originally posted by Branko2307
2 bilion $ a year why on earth would they go f2p looool

this and i can see that within 2 years they will go b2p upto a certain expansion point but will never go full b2p let alone going f2p. it has been confirmed that the character texture will see huge upgrade in next expansion. of course they will still keep the cartoony animation but even with cartoony animation we can expect something great(see those disney\pixar animated movies?) and it has already been hinted that devs are working on a detailed character creation system but it was just a hint from ghostcrawler on a q&a session with players. new games these days are coming out with stunning eye candy graphics and they are certainly getting lots of attention despite their gameplay, so blizz must to do something about that and they are on it. as far as gameplay goes, they have no intentions to change the current gameplay ever because as much as i can see their gameplay is still the most viable in mmo market despite many  people calling it outdated. their comabt system is still the most fast paced compared to many other mmo i have played, but still they could change it a bit but as far as wow fans go "change is a blasphemy". the current updates of the game are very polished but still they need some more work, crz really need to change   and ghostcrawaler has confimed that it will change and that they have gatherd enough feedback from players as to how they will like the crz. overall wow is still the only mmorpg that is highly stable in almost all category, not too catchy but not shabby, seems outdated but inside is still young and energetic. i do not see them going f2p unless there is some major economy crash all over the world. 

i want a open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  jesteralways

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3/30/13 10:21:47 AM#31
Originally posted by pmiles

All the signs suggest that is were it is headed... they keep testing the waters with all their other titles.  Hearthstone being the latest test campaign.  My bet is that "Titan" won't be a sub-based game and they are just working out how to do it.

 

It's not a matter of "if" it's a matter of "when".  They are going to watch Hearthstone very closely, if it turns out to be a huge success... it will become the next business model.

hearthstone? really? you want to pay monthly sub for a card game? do you think anyone in this world would pay sub for a card game? i don't even wanna look at that game let alone play it.

i want a open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  Blasphim

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3/30/13 10:32:56 AM#32


Originally posted by pmiles
All the signs suggest that is were it is headed... they keep testing the waters with all their other titles.  Hearthstone being the latest test campaign.  My bet is that "Titan" won't be a sub-based game and they are just working out how to do it.

 

It's not a matter of "if" it's a matter of "when".  They are going to watch Hearthstone very closely, if it turns out to be a huge success... it will become the next business model.


While I kinda agree, I also don't really. I personally think that the RMAH in D3 was a test for Titan, and that fell flat (thank you great invisible thing in the sky).

But to say that the business model of Hearthstone will set the tone for Titan, I don't believe. First, hearthstone isn't an MMO, it's a cat of a totally different stripe. Second, they have already proven that, as a company, they draw enough of a player base to stick with the sub model, and be quite profitable at it.

IF WoW ever went F2P, it wouldn't be until well after Titan is making them the money they have grown accustomed to

  rojoArcueid

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3/30/13 10:35:30 AM#33
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by Branko2307
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Its to late now. WoW is old news. Really far away from todays standards.

It has it fans still. But it wouldnt really grow in revenue


Cool story bro. Wow is the standard.

No bashing wow , but lets face it - who wanted to play , played it.

Its old news

F2P attracts people that are unsure about playing title (aka its new or not that good) and dont want to pay sub.

 

 

correction.... who wanted to play, is still playing it (and some others come and go)

Remember that interview with one of the guys from Blizz about F2P? he said something like WoW would consider F2P if a F2P mmo becomes a real threat to WoW and take most of their playerbase. The guy didnt use those exact words but it was clear that was the message. So far WoW has being going for 8-9 years without facing any threats.

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  FlawSGI

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3/30/13 10:46:28 AM#34
Man the WoW defenders came out with their pitchforks and torches on this one telling everyone why the game will not got F2P. I took the OP's post as a what if, not that he was implyng it was going F2P so I'll answer without the raw emotion some of these other guys have shown when someone dares challenge its supremacy. NO I still wouldn't play it. It's had it's time and the choices the devs made have turned me off of the game completely. But I could see it's numbers growing because of  those peole that never really played it or played it for long.

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  rensta

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OP  3/30/13 10:50:34 AM#35
Originally posted by Thane

what if they gave you a porsche for free, would you drive it. 

even tho you would have to pay for fuel, taxes and so on?!

 

 

 

 

it's silly question time!

blizz wont go f2p, why should they.

Well i did say if...... and the funny thing is,that WOW has been taken some steps in the F2P direction.... as i am typing this replay i see "World Of Warcraft patch 5.2 NOW LIVE PLAY FREE NOW" 

Yes i know WOW is free until lvl 20 or someother bullshit.... but still, advertising as a F2P game?.......


Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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  rensta

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OP  3/30/13 10:52:23 AM#36
Originally posted by FlawSGI
Man the WoW defenders came out with their pitchforks and torches on this one telling everyone why the game will not got F2P. I took the OP's post as a what if, not that he was implyng it was going F2P so I'll answer without the raw emotion some of these other guys have shown when someone dares challenge its supremacy. NO I still wouldn't play it. It's had it's time and the choices the devs made have turned me off of the game completely. But I could see it's numbers growing because of  those peole that never really played it or played it for long.

Haha, yes exactly, some of us can still use our imagination..... 


Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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  archeageking

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3/30/13 10:55:34 AM#37
they have 9 million monthly subscribers why would they kill the monthly source of income to go free to play? are you insane?
  UnleadedRev

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3/30/13 10:59:36 AM#38
WoW's graphics will still be outdated and its art style will still resemble a "Babys Game".

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  slickbizzle

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3/30/13 11:03:23 AM#39
Originally posted by Xiaoki

 


Originally posted by reaperuk
History has shown that going free to play is a good way to revitalise a fading game. I don't see why it would be any different for WoW. It's been on a downward slide for some time now and most of these huge player numbers fans like to quote actually come from the much lower profit areas in Asia. The numbers of people from North America and Europe who like the game enough to pay a monthly sub have fallen drastically even over the past year. Sooner or later I'm sure WoW will have to follow the money and change to some kind of F2P or B2P model the same as most other games have already.


Most of WoWs subscriber losses have been in Asia.

 


The big loss after the bump from MoP was pretty much all China.


So ...yeah. Anything else?

 

From selling 5 million copies of Cata down to 2.7 million of MoP seems to indicate otherwise.

 

 

 

  Branko2307

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3/30/13 11:40:32 AM#40
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by Xiaoki

 


Originally posted by reaperuk
History has shown that going free to play is a good way to revitalise a fading game. I don't see why it would be any different for WoW. It's been on a downward slide for some time now and most of these huge player numbers fans like to quote actually come from the much lower profit areas in Asia. The numbers of people from North America and Europe who like the game enough to pay a monthly sub have fallen drastically even over the past year. Sooner or later I'm sure WoW will have to follow the money and change to some kind of F2P or B2P model the same as most other games have already.


Most of WoWs subscriber losses have been in Asia.

 


The big loss after the bump from MoP was pretty much all China.


So ...yeah. Anything else?

 

From selling 5 million copies of Cata down to 2.7 million of MoP seems to indicate otherwise.

 

 

 

 

This guy knows his stuff, sir are you from the wow media? o0 It indicates nothing thats only a first month sales...

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