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  Livnthedream

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3/26/13 4:14:36 AM#61
Originally posted by mysticjbyrd

No way, I would say they are about equal, if not in ES's favor. Blizzard and warcraft was not a household name until WoW

Warcraft itself is pretty arguable, it did very well for itself, especially with spinning off into Dota. But Blizzard itself with Starcraft, and Diablo most certainly was. The Blizzard fanboy machine was going strong even back then.

What does this mean exactly?  Why won't you see opposing factions?

It means that in pve you will never see the other 2 factions. The only time you get to see them is in Cyrodil.

http://chroniclesofthenerds.com/nerdfight/

Y U NO FLIP TABLE?!?!?!

  mysticjbyrd

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3/26/13 4:28:03 AM#62
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Originally posted by mysticjbyrd

No way, I would say they are about equal, if not in ES's favor. Blizzard and warcraft was not a household name until WoW

Warcraft itself is pretty arguable, it did very well for itself, especially with spinning off into Dota. But Blizzard itself with Starcraft, and Diablo most certainly was. The Blizzard fanboy machine was going strong even back then.

What does this mean exactly?  Why won't you see opposing factions?

It means that in pve you will never see the other 2 factions. The only time you get to see them is in Cyrodil.

 

I was a blizz fan boy, kinda still am i guess.  But there wasn't any huge following for Warcraft as far as I know. 

Best selling blizzard games

  1. Diablo II (17 million)
  2. Diablo II: Lord of Destruction [expansion pack] (17,5 million)
  3. World of Warcraft (10.7 million subscribers) StarCraft including Brood War expansion (9.5 million)
  1. Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne [expansion pack] (5 million)
  2. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (1 million)

Franchises[2]

 
Warcraft 1,2,3 sales total 9 million
  1. Warcraft (19 million) [3]
  2.  

<a rel="nofollow" autonumber="" exitstitial"="" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080628.html" href="http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080628.html">PS:  Why won't you see the oppossing factions though?

  Livnthedream

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3/26/13 4:35:41 AM#63
Originally posted by mysticjbyrd

I was a blizz fan boy, kinda still am i guess.  But there wasn't any huge following for Warcraft as far as I know. 

Best selling blizzard games

  1. Diablo II (17 million)
  2. Diablo II: Lord of Destruction [expansion pack] (17,5 million)
  3. World of Warcraft (10.7 million subscribers) StarCraft including Brood War expansion (9.5 million)
  1. Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne [expansion pack] (5 million)
  2. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (1 million)

Franchises[2]

 
Warcraft 1,2,3 sales total 9 million
  1. Warcraft (19 million) [3]
  2.  
Sure, now take those number and adjust for inflation, oh and while you are at it consider that Skyrim was also released on console. The numbers cannot be based entirely on sales is my point.
 
As for factions, cause the devs said so? Each faction is stuck in thier zone until 50, and only then can choose a second allaince to visit (phased and leveled to you) and once that is completed can you go to the third. Cyrodil being the exception, which you can go to at level 10.

http://chroniclesofthenerds.com/nerdfight/

Y U NO FLIP TABLE?!?!?!

  mysticjbyrd

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3/26/13 5:27:39 AM#64
Ok thx.  When you visit at 50, can you see characters of oppossing factions?
  Vembumees

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Joined: 1/03/13
Posts: 87

3/26/13 7:49:55 AM#65
Originally posted by mysticjbyrd
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Originally posted by mysticjbyrd

No way, I would say they are about equal, if not in ES's favor. Blizzard and warcraft was not a household name until WoW

Warcraft itself is pretty arguable, it did very well for itself, especially with spinning off into Dota. But Blizzard itself with Starcraft, and Diablo most certainly was. The Blizzard fanboy machine was going strong even back then.

What does this mean exactly?  Why won't you see opposing factions?

It means that in pve you will never see the other 2 factions. The only time you get to see them is in Cyrodil.

 

I was a blizz fan boy, kinda still am i guess.  But there wasn't any huge following for Warcraft as far as I know. 

Best selling blizzard games

  1. Diablo II (17 million)
  2. Diablo II: Lord of Destruction [expansion pack] (17,5 million)
  3. World of Warcraft (10.7 million subscribers) StarCraft including Brood War expansion (9.5 million)
  1. Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne [expansion pack] (5 million)
  2. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (1 million)

Franchises[2]

 
Warcraft 1,2,3 sales total 9 million
  1. Warcraft (19 million) [3]
  2.  

 

 

I find it funny that you compare 1994-2004 sales to 2012 sales.

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol. If gaming was as big back then as it is now, they would had sold more than skyrim right now ever sold.

  daltanious

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3/26/13 10:40:31 AM#66
Originally posted by Aerowyn
housing looks amazing but honestly the cartoony look with no huge IP to back it up will hurt the game a lot imho.. i'm going to try it for sure but don't think it's going to be huge.. we shall see but my guess TESO will draw a lot more people in based on IP alone.

Well, only rare IP i cared of is Aoc and Swtor. For wow never cared. But love wow and cartoony look. Same goes for Wildstrar, which looks incredibly fun. 

And more good games are out there, more options are. But sometimes to many options are also not good. .-)

  EvolvedMonky

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Posts: 565

3/29/13 1:36:09 PM#67

"Blizzard and warcraft was not a household name until WoW"  What!!!!! I cant believe i just read that.

 

  Loktofeit

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3/29/13 2:03:03 PM#68
Originally posted by Vembumees

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol.

Diablo and Starcraft were. Warcraft fans are like Warhammer fans - they find it inconceivable that everyone else in the worlds wasn't familiar with or a fan of their favorite IP.

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  Aori

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3/29/13 2:22:17 PM#69
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Vembumees

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol.

Diablo and Starcraft were. Warcraft fans are like Warhammer fans - they find it inconceivable that everyone else in the worlds wasn't familiar with or a fan of their favorite IP.

 

Just to add

In the 90s and early 2000 the C&C franchise was the more dominant RTS. However battle.net and a more active team helped blizzard gain dominance.

Blizzard games weren't well known until SC:BW and D2:LOD. The majority of WoW players had no idea warcraft was an RTS lol. Hell prior to 2005 if I told someone I played WoW or even an MMO I was viewed as a leper.

Sure they were strong franchises but that was among a very small group of people compared to today. Now that the stigma is vanishing about gamers the dynamics have changed alot within the last 10 years.

Blizzard turned lepers into pop culture. Wildstar can ride that train if they can execute everything they show near flawlessly. Being backed by NCsoft means they'll get their name out there so there is no worry there.

  Tokken

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3/29/13 2:26:34 PM#70

I think it will do well. I look forward to it. I like the cartoony graphics actually.

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  EvolvedMonky

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3/29/13 3:42:44 PM#71
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Vembumees

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol.

Diablo and Starcraft were. Warcraft fans are like Warhammer fans - they find it inconceivable that everyone else in the worlds wasn't familiar with or a fan of their favorite IP.

 

Just to add

In the 90s and early 2000 the C&C franchise was the more dominant RTS. However battle.net and a more active team helped blizzard gain dominance.

Blizzard games weren't well known until SC:BW and D2:LOD. The majority of WoW players had no idea warcraft was an RTS lol. Hell prior to 2005 if I told someone I played WoW or even an MMO I was viewed as a leper.

Sure they were strong franchises but that was among a very small group of people compared to today. Now that the stigma is vanishing about gamers the dynamics have changed alot within the last 10 years.

Blizzard turned lepers into pop culture. Wildstar can ride that train if they can execute everything they show near flawlessly. Being backed by NCsoft means they'll get their name out there so there is no worry there.

Or maybe most households didnt own a computer.   Hard to believe huh. Yuup  and cellphones were as big as bricks and the only one you saw was on tv.  C&C was pretty cool all the guys in computer classes played it in school (they were called nerds back then) and socializing on the interent was sooooooooo dorky back then kinda weird with all the facebooking now..."memories"...."like the ones we"......... Me I liked Warcraft I and II , III was bs.  Omg trying to setup multiplayer on Warcraft I was l33t. And 300+ ping was a good connection in fps.

  akkedis86

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3/29/13 3:52:03 PM#72

Wildstar certainly looks awesome, like a Pixar Movie, but they don't have a well known name, They've all but confirmed it will be sub based which is perfect for me, it will be awesome, but we'll see.

 

The thing is, ESO is going to hurt Wildstars numbers, but that is not to say that Eso is going to be as good as Wildstar, your friend will play Eso, so you'll play eso, that's almost guaranteed.

 

Skyrim had sales of 12 million, that sort of tells you that the ip has a bit of a following.

If you're looking for the closest thing to a wow-killer ESO will be it, whether we want it so or not.

  Wraithone

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3/29/13 4:05:49 PM#73
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Vembumees

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol.

Diablo and Starcraft were. Warcraft fans are like Warhammer fans - they find it inconceivable that everyone else in the worlds wasn't familiar with or a fan of their favorite IP.

 

Just to add

In the 90s and early 2000 the C&C franchise was the more dominant RTS. However battle.net and a more active team helped blizzard gain dominance.

Blizzard games weren't well known until SC:BW and D2:LOD. The majority of WoW players had no idea warcraft was an RTS lol. Hell prior to 2005 if I told someone I played WoW or even an MMO I was viewed as a leper.

Sure they were strong franchises but that was among a very small group of people compared to today. Now that the stigma is vanishing about gamers the dynamics have changed alot within the last 10 years.

Blizzard turned lepers into pop culture. Wildstar can ride that train if they can execute everything they show near flawlessly. Being backed by NCsoft means they'll get their name out there so there is no worry there.

Being backed by NCsoft also means that if they don't live up to the expectations/projections of NCsofts suits, even if they are profitable, they risk being axed, just like NCsoft has already done to four or five western games.  That is one of my major concerns about this game.

  Gormogon

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3/29/13 4:12:55 PM#74
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Vembumees

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol.

Diablo and Starcraft were. Warcraft fans are like Warhammer fans - they find it inconceivable that everyone else in the worlds wasn't familiar with or a fan of their favorite IP.

 

Just to add

In the 90s and early 2000 the C&C franchise was the more dominant RTS. However battle.net and a more active team helped blizzard gain dominance.

Blizzard games weren't well known until SC:BW and D2:LOD. The majority of WoW players had no idea warcraft was an RTS lol. Hell prior to 2005 if I told someone I played WoW or even an MMO I was viewed as a leper.

Sure they were strong franchises but that was among a very small group of people compared to today. Now that the stigma is vanishing about gamers the dynamics have changed alot within the last 10 years.

Blizzard turned lepers into pop culture. Wildstar can ride that train if they can execute everything they show near flawlessly. Being backed by NCsoft means they'll get their name out there so there is no worry there.

 

I don't know ... my sophomore year in college (1998-99) it seemd like half the guys in my dorm were playing StarCraft and/or WarCraft 2. The other half were playing Goldeneye. A couple also played Final Fantasy 7. And for a few weeks after winter break groups of guys were playing Ocarina of Time. And everybody played Snood.

The guy directly across the hall from me flunked out because he played StarCraft all day and never went to class. True story.

 

Incidentally, that era of gaming was ridiculous. In a two-yerar stretch from mid-1997 to mid-1999 we got:

Ultima Online, EverQuest, WarCraft 2, StarCraft, Goldeneye, Final Fantasy VII and VIII, Ocarina of Time, Fallout and Fallout 2, Baldur's Gate, Civ 2, Xenogears, Unreal, Pokemon Red/Yellow/Blue, Grim Fandango, Half-Life, and Alpha Centauri.

/nostalgia

  Aori

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3/29/13 4:15:16 PM#75
Originally posted by akkedis86

Wildstar certainly looks awesome, like a Pixar Movie, but they don't have a well known name, They've all but confirmed it will be sub based which is perfect for me, it will be awesome, but we'll see.

 

The thing is, ESO is going to hurt Wildstars numbers, but that is not to say that Eso is going to be as good as Wildstar, your friend will play Eso, so you'll play eso, that's almost guaranteed.

 

Skyrim had sales of 12 million, that sort of tells you that the ip has a bit of a following.

If you're looking for the closest thing to a wow-killer ESO will be it, whether we want it so or not.

Skyrim sales were pushed hard by steam, without steam I highly doubt it would have been as successful. Still though it is a B2P game that is moddable which garners a different group of players.. Much different from an MMO.

ESO will likely start strong then drop sharply. People are going to compare it to skyrim so expectations are going to be absolutely ridiculous.

Wildstar has a couple things going for it other MMO's don't. One being what feels like a more grounded to earth dev team. Another being A LOT of us want a freaking SCI FI mmo that isn't full of fail. Granted there are a lot more to wildstar that I think is different or better but really we won't know until we get to play with it.

  Aori

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3/29/13 4:20:36 PM#76
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Vembumees

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol.

Diablo and Starcraft were. Warcraft fans are like Warhammer fans - they find it inconceivable that everyone else in the worlds wasn't familiar with or a fan of their favorite IP.

 

Just to add

In the 90s and early 2000 the C&C franchise was the more dominant RTS. However battle.net and a more active team helped blizzard gain dominance.

Blizzard games weren't well known until SC:BW and D2:LOD. The majority of WoW players had no idea warcraft was an RTS lol. Hell prior to 2005 if I told someone I played WoW or even an MMO I was viewed as a leper.

Sure they were strong franchises but that was among a very small group of people compared to today. Now that the stigma is vanishing about gamers the dynamics have changed alot within the last 10 years.

Blizzard turned lepers into pop culture. Wildstar can ride that train if they can execute everything they show near flawlessly. Being backed by NCsoft means they'll get their name out there so there is no worry there.

Being backed by NCsoft also means that if they don't live up to the expectations/projections of NCsofts suits, even if they are profitable, they risk being axed, just like NCsoft has already done to four or five western games.  That is one of my major concerns about this game.

You mean after 10 years with only a few thousand active players the game gets axed.. ya I can understand such a business move. If NCsoft was truely making worthwhile profits they wouldn't axe a game, it just wouldn't make sense. Making 5% profit on a project just isn't worth it when you can reallocate your funds to projects with higher potential.

  Squeak69

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3/29/13 4:24:57 PM#77
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Vembumees

Didn't you play back then? Because Warcraft/starcraft/diablo franchises were the biggest franchises at the time, lol.

Diablo and Starcraft were. Warcraft fans are like Warhammer fans - they find it inconceivable that everyone else in the worlds wasn't familiar with or a fan of their favorite IP.

 

Just to add

In the 90s and early 2000 the C&C franchise was the more dominant RTS. However battle.net and a more active team helped blizzard gain dominance.

Blizzard games weren't well known until SC:BW and D2:LOD. The majority of WoW players had no idea warcraft was an RTS lol. Hell prior to 2005 if I told someone I played WoW or even an MMO I was viewed as a leper.

Sure they were strong franchises but that was among a very small group of people compared to today. Now that the stigma is vanishing about gamers the dynamics have changed alot within the last 10 years.

Blizzard turned lepers into pop culture. Wildstar can ride that train if they can execute everything they show near flawlessly. Being backed by NCsoft means they'll get their name out there so there is no worry there.

Being backed by NCsoft also means that if they don't live up to the expectations/projections of NCsofts suits, even if they are profitable, they risk being axed, just like NCsoft has already done to four or five western games.  That is one of my major concerns about this game.

You mean after 10 years with only a few thousand active players the game gets axed.. ya I can understand such a business move. If NCsoft was truely making worthwhile profits they wouldn't axe a game, it just wouldn't make sense. Making 5% profit on a project just isn't worth it when you can reallocate your funds to projects with higher potential.

exept you know when you axe something that is makeing a profit but dont axe things that arnt makeing profit 2x2=3 ?

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  Risstor

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3/29/13 4:28:48 PM#78
Originally posted by Arcona
pretty bold statement, since we could run out of content at level 20, like Age Of Conan at release :)

love the sig

 

if the wildstar game is only half as fun as their promotional videos, a grand time will be had by all

  Aori

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3/29/13 4:33:26 PM#79
Originally posted by Squeak69

exept you know when you axe something that is makeing a profit but dont axe things that arnt makeing profit 2x2=3 ?

Because you know what is profitting and what isn't with NCsoft right? I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing.

  Bigmac1910

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3/29/13 5:00:41 PM#80
I hope so cause they seem to get a lot of things right, of course I have to play it first, and it looks a little too much like WOW, but we'll see.
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