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General Discussion  » So, ganking is out?? Just asking?

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  Torvaldr

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3/29/13 12:24:35 PM#21
Originally posted by wordiz
Tired of ganking? Type, "LF PVP Guild" in chat. Works wonders.

This is the right thing to do in a pvp game.  Best advice in the thread.  Join a strong pvp guild.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  azzamasin

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3/29/13 12:58:35 PM#22
Originally posted by wordiz
Tired of ganking? Type, "LF PVP Guild" in chat. Works wonders.

Some of us actually enjoy the lone wolf approach to playing a video game and enjoy being able to afk and admire the beauty of your surroundings.  Or wander off the beaten path an d explore, or try our hand at killing a Mob more powerful then us which was designed for more then 1 person.  Some of us just enjoy the anti social aspect and freedom of being by ourselves.

 

None of those things are easy to do when grouping with a PvP guild and none of those things are possible when your having to look over your back for gankers, theres a reason why PvE and PvP is split so it offers something for any type of gamer and forcing your will on someone is not good game design.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  elohssa

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3/29/13 1:23:06 PM#23
Originally posted by wordiz
Tired of ganking? Type, "LF PVP Guild" in chat. Works wonders.

Don't need a pvp guild, just a good one.

I don't mind being ganked, its camped by somone way higher than you thats going too far.  It happened to me once in WoW.  I called my guild over, and we camped him for like 2 hours.  Finally, he had to res at the Graveyard and my another guildy was waiting for him there as well.  And he got camped some more, lol.  He had to just log off.  Needless to say no one got camped in our guild again.

  tavoc

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3/29/13 3:46:46 PM#24

I think it all comes down to your version of the word 'gank'. To be honest i love open world pvp. I had fun with it in wow, played and loved it in conan, and i truely did love rifting in aion. The problem is, there is a large amount of people who will get upset quickly at the smallest thing. I should probably note my version of open world pvp does not consist of my deffinition of 'ganking'.

To me a ganker is somone who is either A) much higher level than you B) Campers who select areas to kill people that are important to your progression in the game. AKA elite areas, harder world bosses or quest npcs ETC.. or C) A group of people that otherwise couldent handle a real pvp fight if their real life actualy depended on it. or of course all of the above.

I can tell you this, gankers are what ruin the fun in OWPVP games atleast for me. Like in aion for example, it would piss me off to no end when i would go into eltnen on my level 33 to go kill some people my level just to get squshed by a 50 wearing full 50e when i went threw the portal. Or in conan, walking threw the earlier zones in the game (25+) and being level 42ish, figting a elite mob just to have a level 80 TOS come up and 1 shot me. There is no sport in it, no fun at all. One thing that IS QUITE funny however is when i took my level 40 temp into eltnen and found that 50, or muliple 50s standing around and handed them their own rear. How did i do that? skill, patience and actualy fighting against chalanges, which made me better.

I did mention the sport in Open world pvp. Yes, it can be a whole lot of fun, even for more pve oriented people. As for myself, when i would rift in aion or run around in the other games i played, i liked to twink. However i dont mean this in a sence that i wanted the advantage. In Aion i would run into the other side, at 40 wearing full 40e, full up on consumeables yes, but i wouldent go into the level 25, or even level 35 areas. I would stick to the higher level areas of the zones, and in some cases go to heiron and try my luck there. The gear advantage to me was fun, but i used it as a tool to go after what others would deem impossibble. I remember one time i tore apart a level 50 sorc wearing full mirigent armor, only for him to call his friend to come after me, a 50 ranger, who in turn, also died. Now it was no easy fight by any strech of the immagination but i did win, if i remember correctly i even got 1 shot by a mob near by because i was that low on health and all my cooldowns were popped. THIS to me, is fun.

The point is, with the right people, Open world pvp is amazing. The problem is, it also invites gankers. Which in my experiance, theres 100s of gankers to every 1 decent pvper who wants a challange or the thrill of danger threw the games. Because of this, im kinda happy that games like TESO are seperating  pve and pvp.

All this aside, my main problem when it comes to pvp in modern mmos, WHY THE HELL CANT WE HAVE DUELING!!! It makes no damn sence, its a simple code, and it gives those players standing around a means to practice pvp againt a variety of play styles, classes, and level and gear differences, and to top it off a means to settle arguments for those of us who also RP in these games. I'm sorry devs, "We want to keep all pvp in the pvp zone" is not a good excuse.. Give us dueling!!

  Iselin

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3/29/13 4:09:54 PM#25

For the record...

"Ganking" as the term is normally used describes the practice of seeking PvP fights when the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor. It is a chickenshit form of griefing.

A stealther camping a quest hub to kill those 40 levels below him is ganking. Only basement-dwelling 13 year old trogoldytes do that

Having said that, not all inbalanced fights are "ganking." If you're a 50 runnig solo in a PvP area you're taking a risk. If you run into a group of 6 and they kill you...that's just PvP.

 

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