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  Tatercake

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LET GO OF MY NUTS

3/28/13 3:28:04 PM#21

it will be a glirchy start i  was suprised how much better the ps3  version ran then the pc

 

  lordtwisted

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3/28/13 3:38:40 PM#22
Originally posted by SonicTHI

 


Originally posted by r3dl4nce

Originally posted by SonicTHI
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 I have been playing online since it was text based in the late 80's early 90's, and was there at the inception of graphical mmo's in the early 90's. I was an alpha tester, and beta tester for the majority of the online games developed since 1993 when you literally hd to fill out an application to be accepted into the testing phases. 

 At one point I was even approached by Sony to test a couple of games do to my previous interaction with them and their team members in finding bugs, and properly documenting and reporting them. 

 I have a little programing experience in several languages, as well as server administration, maintenance, and configuration certifications. 

 Not to mention working as customer service, tech support, and in house testing for another company for a couple of years...

 I think I have enough experience to justify my opinion. 

 My opinion is that this game, as well as this TV show will develope a cult type fanbase just like many of the Syfy channel shows have, and to claim all of the Syfy channel series suck, is not only idiotic because it is an all inclusive statement, but it is also idiotic because it is saying your opinion is above the thousands of followers most of the Syfy series have developed over the years. 

 I don't think Defiance will be a huge success based on what I have seen from the beta, but I do feel Defiance has a place in online gaming, and is in a boat all by itself. It will be interesting to see what Trion, and Syfy do with this design. 

What I think will be even more interesting is to see what the other developers bring out after this, I think Trion opened up a lot more then even they realized for the industry. 

 

Not so nice guy!

  Asheram

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What happens when you get 5 stars do you get a cookie? ;)

3/28/13 3:55:43 PM#23
Edited- I think I will stick to playing the game and leaving the forum game to others.

  lordtwisted

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3/28/13 4:07:02 PM#24
Originally posted by Asheram
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by r3dl4nce

 


Originally posted by SonicTHI
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 You are more or less on track. 

 Consider the fact that when you buy a product, any product...the average person will buy a product, if they enjoy it they go on. 

 If they hate it the first thing they do is go online and complain about it to everyone. 

 When it comes to video games, you buy a game and you have a lot of fun? You typically tell friends, family, go online toy uor usualy fourms, clan sites, guild sites, etc.. and spread the news. 

 If you buy a game and you hate it, you go to every online site that mentioned Defiance in a quick google search and tell everyone how you much you hate it. 

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  bestever

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3/28/13 4:16:38 PM#25
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by r3dl4nce

 


Originally posted by SonicTHI
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Those are pc players and today they complain about any and every game that comes out. It could be the greatest game ever made and pc players would complain. On xbox alone it will have a huge player base since its a shooter. Xbox is a shooter console and the players are far from picky thats why cod still uses the same old same old copy and paste and make big money from it.

 

  stragen001

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Mr Flibble is VERY cross

3/28/13 4:17:37 PM#26
Originally posted by Jonoku
Originally posted by Four0Six

When I hear things like this, I wonder if the TV show will have a direct effect on the game....meaning content and areas of play open only after that episode has been released.....

That would be one way to kill a content locust...and the game too....

Just my 2 pennies

 

Ya just note that it takes place in different places.

TV show= St. Louis

Game= San Francisco

Trion have already said that there are going to be crossovers. 

NPCs from the game will appear in the TV show. 

Characters from the TV show will appear in the game

Developments in the TV show will affect the game world

Outcomes of specific events in the game world (inbetween series and in mid season break i beleive) will affect the TV show

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  Jonoku

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"Veni Vidi Vici"

3/28/13 4:24:03 PM#27
Originally posted by stragen001
Originally posted by Jonoku
Originally posted by Four0Six

When I hear things like this, I wonder if the TV show will have a direct effect on the game....meaning content and areas of play open only after that episode has been released.....

That would be one way to kill a content locust...and the game too....

Just my 2 pennies

 

Ya just note that it takes place in different places.

TV show= St. Louis

Game= San Francisco

Trion have already said that there are going to be crossovers. 

NPCs from the game will appear in the TV show. 

Characters from the TV show will appear in the game

Developments in the TV show will affect the game world

Outcomes of specific events in the game world (inbetween series and in mid season break i beleive) will affect the TV show

I know......

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  lordtwisted

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3/28/13 6:44:47 PM#28

 You are basing your opinion on what you assumed was a dramtic drop of population during the beta? 

 

 There are a lot of reasons you witnessed a large drop in population during the beta, one a lot of people progressed rather fast, with in a couple of hours everyone I was playing with had their vehicles and were exploring the maps.  Secondly there were multiple games doing beta events that same weekend, a group I normally play with was divided between three different betas that same weekend. 

 A big reason you witnessed a decline in population was the queue for the missions,  in between ark falls I would queue up for co-op missions, of which only two were available, never did I have to wait more than a few seconds for it to tell me a group was ready. 

 This leads me to believe a large portion of the population were in the instances, not the open world. 

 

 I got in a mission with on group that everyone on the mission but me was 400+ Ego power. All they did the entire weekend was queue up for the co-op mission. 

 From your opinions you have posted, and the was you justify them I don't think you went into the game unbiased, It seems to me that you went in with a higher expectation and were disappointed, which can not be faulted, I have done it to a lot of games. 

 

 Boils down to, everybody has an opinion, some people loved it, some people hated it, and then you hae the larger group of people that enjoyed t and sees it having a place in the world, while not being a blockbuster. 

 I based my assumption of a majority of the people based off what I have seen and heard of the increased sales in the ast week.  A friend at gamestop said he went from 2 pre-orders on Xox, 1 on PS3, to 18 on Xbox, and 13 on PS3 in the last week, he said they did not have a single pre-order at his store for the PC, but I think that is because most people pre-ordered from Steam, and other online sources.

 

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  lordtwisted

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3/28/13 6:50:42 PM#29

 and while "successful" can by percieved in numerous ways, Eve, Star Trek online, Star Wars Galaxies, and The newer Star Wars all did rather well. Anarchy Online was one of the first, and it did awesome for a few years. 

 I am invested into Defiance about $90 at a movie theater I would get what 10 movies for that? So 20 hours of entertainment? So if this game entertains me untill the next big game comes out, then I think I am good with it.

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  Ozivois

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3/28/13 6:51:46 PM#30
It's just non-stop shooting with little to no character development.  Once I realized this the game got real boring real fast. For players who love the "role" in RPG, the lack of holy trinity and all of the strategizing that it entails leaves you wanting.
  jmcdermottuk

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3/28/13 6:59:36 PM#31
Originally posted by SonicTHI

 


Originally posted by r3dl4nce

Originally posted by SonicTHI
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Global Agenda is how old now? Must be 2-3 years. Planetside is still running, a purely PvP MMOFPS. I can't see Defiance closing down any time soon. It's primarily going to sell on console, it's a much bigger market than PC and they have nothing close to this, particularly on xbox.

Jeez I still play Counterstrike and that's 15 years later. I don't want to sound insulting but you're wrong.

[mod edit] I've made several posts highlighting the negatives of this game, like the hideous console UI. But console players are gonna like it so it won't be going anywhere just yet. The game doesn't need the TV show to survive in order to stay operational. As long as Trion can sell DLC and make money off it they'll keep it up and running.

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  SonicTHI

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3/28/13 8:45:13 PM#32

Originally posted by lordtwisted

 You are basing your opinion on what you assumed was a dramtic drop of population during the beta? 

 There are a lot of reasons you witnessed a large drop in population during the beta, one a lot of people progressed rather fast, with in a couple of hours everyone I was playing with had their vehicles and were exploring the maps.  Secondly there were multiple games doing beta events that same weekend, a group I normally play with was divided between three different betas that same weekend. 

 A big reason you witnessed a decline in population was the queue for the missions,  in between ark falls I would queue up for co-op missions, of which only two were available, never did I have to wait more than a few seconds for it to tell me a group was ready. 

 This leads me to believe a large portion of the population were in the instances, not the open world. 

 I got in a mission with on group that everyone on the mission but me was 400+ Ego power. All they did the entire weekend was queue up for the co-op mission. 

 From your opinions you have posted, and the was you justify them I don't think you went into the game unbiased, It seems to me that you went in with a higher expectation and were disappointed, which can not be faulted, I have done it to a lot of games. 

 Boils down to, everybody has an opinion, some people loved it, some people hated it, and then you hae the larger group of people that enjoyed t and sees it having a place in the world, while not being a blockbuster. 

 I based my assumption of a majority of the people based off what I have seen and heard of the increased sales in the ast week.  A friend at gamestop said he went from 2 pre-orders on Xox, 1 on PS3, to 18 on Xbox, and 13 on PS3 in the last week, he said they did not have a single pre-order at his store for the PC, but I think that is because most people pre-ordered from Steam, and other online sources.

Originally posted by lordtwisted

 and while "successful" can by percieved in numerous ways, Eve, Star Trek online, Star Wars Galaxies, and The newer Star Wars all did rather well. Anarchy Online was one of the first, and it did awesome for a few years. 

 I am invested into Defiance about $90 at a movie theater I would get what 10 movies for that? So 20 hours of entertainment? So if this game entertains me untill the next big game comes out, then I think I am good with it.

No i m basing my opinion on the beta and on facts and experience from the last decade of MMOs and 2 decades of gaming. Yes all those titles you listed did well but there are many others that didnt and while some of them were still sustainable they had lower budgets. I think you can agree that even making a SCI-FI MMO is much harder due to the fantasy bias if nothing else from the investors since numbers show them what sells and what doesnt. The show is a double edged sword on top of it all. That is one big risky package.

I went into the game completely unbiased. I havent even checked it out before trying the beta. Something very rare in my case. I was actually pleasantly surprised by many things but even so found just as many issues with the game that made the whole experience lackluster. However i bet many other people will go into this game as you described and they wont stick around.

Also I do not measure my entertainment per cinema tickets. I got sick of people talking on phones next to me etc. I measure it by other games that usually get me at least 100 hours of entertainment.

  Ujirik

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3/28/13 8:48:26 PM#33
You guys know that Rift went Free to Play in Korea and is being shut down now?  Wouldn't be surprised if they take similar actions when the subscription numbers start dropping over here.

  Doogiehowser

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3/28/13 8:56:28 PM#34
Originally posted by Ujirik
You guys know that Rift went Free to Play in Korea and is being shut down now?  Wouldn't be surprised if they take similar actions when the subscription numbers start dropping over here.

Yes yes you are absolutely right..a western MMO didn't do well in Korea so surely sub will start falling in west too. Doom!!

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  jmcdermottuk

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3/28/13 9:28:00 PM#35
Originally posted by Ujirik
You guys know that Rift went Free to Play in Korea and is being shut down now?  Wouldn't be surprised if they take similar actions when the subscription numbers start dropping over here.

And TERA went F2P in the west. There's lots of evidence to support the fact that many MMO's developed in one region don't appeal to the audience in the other, and it works both ways. I wouldn't take Rift's problems in Korea as any indication of how well or badly it is doing in Europe or the US.

  stragen001

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3/29/13 6:00:21 PM#36

Back on topic:

I was watching this MMOFTW Defiance special, and at the end (1:03:24) the devs said that people who play the game before the show releases will be able to play exclusive content with NPCs of the TV show characters that wont be available after the TV show launches. 

Pretty cool.... :)

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  SpottyGekko

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3/29/13 7:13:39 PM#37
Originally posted by stragen001

Back on topic:

I was watching this MMOFTW Defiance special, and at the end (1:03:24) the devs said that people who play the game before the show releases will be able to play exclusive content with NPCs of the TV show characters that wont be available after the TV show launches. 

Pretty cool.... :)

That could be Joshua Nolan and Irisa, isn't their story supposed to start in San Francisco and then they head toward St Louis ?

We saw them at the end of that journey in the 14min show preview that was released a few days ago...

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