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  BillMurphy

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OP  3/27/13 4:41:10 AM#1

With PAX East 2013 now behind us, we're offering our thoughts on some of the things we looked forward to seeing at the show.

WildStar looks gorgeous every time we see it and I find myself impressed with the game in new ways each time Carbine gives us a closer look at the game’s fairly nuanced game design. If you play the game for a couple of minutes, you might get the idea that WildStar is just a quirky “me too” MMO, but there is a whole lot going on under the surface. Barring any surprises, this is my game to watch in 2013.

Read more of Michael Bitton's PAX East 2013 Postmortem.

  Battlerock

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3/27/13 8:26:40 AM#2
ES - we will see
MH - no thanks
FF - now thats condidence lol
Wildstar - I agree

The FF thing touches on others as well though, what is it with the lack of confidence in ones own product.

ES is close to getting my stamp, they have really opened the doors lately, all im waiting for from ES and WS at this point is a release date.
  Vorthanion

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3/27/13 10:55:40 AM#3

I'm still waiting and hoping for a true virtual world style super hero MMO.  I have absolutely no interest in Marvel Heroes.  Just like I was disappointed in City of Heroes and Champions Online and DC Universe Online.  Every one of them combat focused with little or no worlds to speak of with tons of instancing and always twitchy.

 

I'm looking forward to trying Elder Scrolls Online and learning more about EverQuest Next.  I'm not sure about Wildstar as it seems to be a raid or die game.  I do like its atmosphere which is delightfully created by wonderful voice overs with both nuanced and fun tongue and cheek humor.

 

The behavior of the FFXIV team makes me wonder if there is the possibility that the higher ups may be considering shutting the whole thing down, which would certainly be reflected in such a glum and lackluster presence at the show.

  Vorch

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3/27/13 12:27:58 PM#4
ESO, please be buy to play, please be buy to play, please be buy to play,...

"As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days— those are now the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2

  Zekiah

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Hype (noun)
1. to trick; gull.
2. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
3. swindle, deception, or trick.

3/27/13 12:31:13 PM#5
The Repopulation. Nothing?

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  mm6131

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3/27/13 1:05:25 PM#6
No love for Repopulation?
  Ozmodan

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3/27/13 1:23:05 PM#7

Final Fantasy and Marvel Heroes?  Neither are worth mentioning IMO, they will be nonentities within 6 months of release if they last that long.

Even Neverwinter will do better than either of them.  Wildstar and Elder Scrolls will do quite well though, will have to agree with you there.

  MikeB

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3/27/13 1:29:41 PM#8
Originally posted by mm6131
No love for Repopulation?

We didn't see it.

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
Community Manager
Twitter: @eMikeB

  azarhal

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3/27/13 1:33:57 PM#9
Originally posted by Vorch
ESO, please be buy to play, please be buy to play, please be buy to play,...

lol

What happen if it's not B2P?

  Gaeluian

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Joined: 12/23/09
Posts: 69

To be or not to be, I don't really care!

3/27/13 2:34:24 PM#10

Wildstar looks like another stupid cartooned MMO. The main reason I didn't play World of Warcraft.

 

Do people really like this style graphics in an MMO? Is this what has become acceptable?

 

I am so hesitant of any new MMOs anymore.

  erictlewis

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Joined: 11/08/08
Posts: 3058

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

3/27/13 2:40:07 PM#11

the only one I am watching now is ESO,  the rest well I seen footage for wildstar and it looks like something from full metal alchamist, and all I got to say about that is its grea if your my 23 year old, its meh for me.  

Looks like another year of nothing in the mmorpg world.  Not good. 

 

  Zeref.Dyver

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3/27/13 3:29:27 PM#12
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Final Fantasy and Marvel Heroes?  Neither are worth mentioning IMO, they will be nonentities within 6 months of release if they last that long.

Even Neverwinter will do better than either of them.  Wildstar and Elder Scrolls will do quite well though, will have to agree with you there.

So tell me, I'm dying to know...

In what year are we finally able to create a working time machine?

  Legere

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Posts: 103

3/27/13 3:32:22 PM#13
that it? wheres the rest of the article! it covers 3 games!
  Dogblaster

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3/27/13 4:20:08 PM#14
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Final Fantasy and Marvel Heroes?  Neither are worth mentioning IMO, they will be nonentities within 6 months of release if they last that long.

Even Neverwinter will do better than either of them.  Wildstar and Elder Scrolls will do quite well though, will have to agree with you there.

So we have another know-everything guy here :) You should contact FOX or BBC or something and create a show

 
  Dihoru

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3/27/13 4:25:16 PM#15
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Final Fantasy and Marvel Heroes?  Neither are worth mentioning IMO, they will be nonentities within 6 months of release if they last that long.

Even Neverwinter will do better than either of them.  Wildstar and Elder Scrolls will do quite well though, will have to agree with you there.

So we have another know-everything guy here :) You should contact FOX or BBC or something and create a show

 

Hey at least he has the maturity to not act hurt when someone decks a game he likes, no matter how justified it may be (sorry but FF... just doesn't look to be much more than a bright graphical explosion followed by a puff of smoke and then nothing).

  Torvaldr

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3/27/13 4:34:42 PM#16
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Final Fantasy and Marvel Heroes?  Neither are worth mentioning IMO, they will be nonentities within 6 months of release if they last that long.

Even Neverwinter will do better than either of them.  Wildstar and Elder Scrolls will do quite well though, will have to agree with you there.

So we have another know-everything guy here :) You should contact FOX or BBC or something and create a show

 

He has an opinion in an opinion thread.  He added to the discussion.  What about you?  Oh nothing.  Realistically, he's probably not far off the mark.  FFXIV has an insane hole to climb out of.  The only people that are giving it an insta pass at this point are those that were willing to do the same with the original version.  Marvel Heroes will probably be fun for what it is, but again not likely to be remembered a year from.

Wildstar is a maybe and ESO is going to make a mark whether you like it or not.  He was probably right about D&D:N in that it will likely make more of a splash and have a greater affect on the genre than either ARR or MH.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  BethelsBoy

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Joined: 9/18/08
Posts: 209

"What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion."

3/27/13 4:53:07 PM#17
Originally posted by Gaeluian

Wildstar looks like another stupid cartooned MMO. The main reason I didn't play World of Warcraft.

 

Do people really like this style graphics in an MMO? Is this what has become acceptable?

 

I am so hesitant of any new MMOs anymore.

Sounds like your open minded.... lol

  Alberel

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Joined: 12/02/09
Posts: 1121

3/27/13 5:32:31 PM#18
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Final Fantasy and Marvel Heroes?  Neither are worth mentioning IMO, they will be nonentities within 6 months of release if they last that long.

Even Neverwinter will do better than either of them.  Wildstar and Elder Scrolls will do quite well though, will have to agree with you there.

So we have another know-everything guy here :) You should contact FOX or BBC or something and create a show

 

He has an opinion in an opinion thread.  He added to the discussion.  What about you?  Oh nothing.  Realistically, he's probably not far off the mark.  FFXIV has an insane hole to climb out of.  The only people that are giving it an insta pass at this point are those that were willing to do the same with the original version.  Marvel Heroes will probably be fun for what it is, but again not likely to be remembered a year from.

Wildstar is a maybe and ESO is going to make a mark whether you like it or not.  He was probably right about D&D:N in that it will likely make more of a splash and have a greater affect on the genre than either ARR or MH.

The people giving FFXIV a second chance are the people that have bothered to read up about the game. It's a completely rebuilt game, almost nothing is the same. It's even on a new engine. Any preconceptions based on how 1.0 turned out are pointless because the rerelease has almost nothing in common with it beyond the class system.

They didn't show a lot at PAX because they're busy. They had their big marketing push about a month ago instead when they launched the benchmark.

  Inktomi

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Give me sparkly, twinkly...

3/27/13 7:29:19 PM#19

Hey Mike,

 

Good write-up. I would have loved to hit up PAX, but that job thing gets me every time. I am surprised there wasn't more of a solid marketing campaign for FFXIV at PAX E', we all know the company needs it. I do want to ask, what does a "me too" mmo mean?

 

Thanks, 

 

Ink

  DMKano

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3/27/13 8:11:07 PM#20

My take on PAX east - it's losing more relevance every year, it was even smaller than last year, I think the trend will continue as long as the gaming industry is struggling.

 

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