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  DJMantiss

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Joined: 2/26/13
Posts: 103

3/26/13 12:47:35 PM#41
The show looks promising and the CGI is what you expect from the Syfy channel. Even the Defiance Game's story is good and funny at times. I just wish they had actually made a full fledged game and not what we will be receiving on April 2nd.
  SpottyGekko

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Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2932

3/26/13 12:55:53 PM#42
Originally posted by Asheram

It has been posted on youtube if some are having trouble watching it on syfy.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaowWi9p9TM

That vid is no longer accessible, looks like the network objected to their region lock being circumvented...

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
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3/26/13 12:59:12 PM#43
Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by lordtwisted

 And to the trolls desperate to hate anything new, I expect you to come bash the CGI and acting no matter what happens, but I honestly think this preview shows a lot of promise for the TV show, it looks like they invested alot in this show. 

Defiance is the most expensive TV show syfy ever put together, they spent 50mil on it already. I read in a magazine interview that the sets alone were some of the biggest most expensive ones ever created.

So yes they invested a lot into this, and season 1 is already fully shot so we know it won't get canceled after the 3rd episode :)

 

The fact that the entire first season is already filmed means very little really. If the ratings tank, the show goes to the wall, regardless of how many episodes are in the bank. Bad viewer ratings mean no advertiser revenue, and means people aren't watching SyFy channel during that timeslot. And that's the worst possible thing that can happen to any TV channel...

The show has a shot judging by the 15 minutes we saw combined with the budget and the amount of dedication and faith put into the show (Investing heavily in the game and the show makes this a "Make it or break it" kind of move for SyFy). Thats not saying a lot but competition is fairly light as well. There are a lot of scifi fans out there without much to watch currently besides re-runs of old shows. Its nice to see SyFy actually doing a scifi show again. I miss the old scifi channel a lot. SG1, SG Atlantis, even though I didn't like the remake of battlestar galactica it was at least scifi, lots of good shows use to be on the scifi channel. It sure beats watching wrestling or w/e new "reality show" they want to throw on there. 

 

Its a sad state of affairs when I as a sci fi fan care more about AMC than the sci fi channel. 

  Ilaya

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Joined: 8/03/04
Posts: 360

3/26/13 1:02:09 PM#44

If someone outside US wanna watch this, go here and enjoy :)

http://www.serien-load.de/blog/die-minuten-syfy-defiance/

Sidenote: I know you perhaps cant read the text :) scroll down to the Vid and click on it

Second link to an english site:

http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/03/defiance-episode-101-pilot-watch-first.html

  lordtwisted

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Joined: 9/24/04
Posts: 564

 
OP  3/26/13 1:15:54 PM#45
Originally posted by DAS1337

Wow.. you guys got me all interested in watching it, making it sound so good.

 

I'll be honest here, I have no idea what you people were looking at.  The CGI was pretty poor in a lot of areas.  I mean, sometimes it looked like I was watching the original cinematics for Starcraft 1.  You know, the part, with the buggy, which looked oddly familiar to the one the two characters were driving in the beginning of the episode.

 

Plus, and I'm sick and tired of seeing this in movies.  NO ONE SHAKES THE WHEEL BACK AND FORTH IN REAL LIFE, EVER!  It was driving me crazy,  Why do film producers do this?  Does no one tell them that it looks stupid?  Do any of you shake the wheel back and forth endlessly when you drive?  

 

The acting was pretty suspect in the beginning as well, from the guy more than anyone else.  

 

The premise is cool and I'm willing to give it a chance.  It just didn't hook me like Game of Thrones or Falling Skies.  Or even series like Breaking Bad or House.  The only interesting thing to me at this point is that the girl is pretty damn attractive.  

Hi Troll!

 First, the CGI was impressive, sorry you have such a ken eye you can pick up little flaws, we are humbled by your ability to not be fooled by a computer graphics designer! It was intended to be appealing, not to make you think it is all real life. 

 Secondly the bouncing steering wheel was do to the dirt road they were driving, they were not on paved streets, I would lve to see you go 4 wheeling in the boonies and hold your steering wheel straight while your suspension is twisting back and forth to support the vehicle. 

 

Not so nice guy!

  Swiftrevoir

Novice Member

Joined: 8/13/05
Posts: 162

3/26/13 1:25:50 PM#46

I was entertained.  When the preview ended and I was bummed that I'd have to wait until the 15th to see the rest I took that as a telltale sign that it would be a good show. 

Certainly getting the game to complete the experience as well.  Here's hoping that the experiment is a triumph.  We may see more collaborations between different entertainment mediums as a result of this if it proves to be successful long term. 

Hurrah for trying something new!

  SpottyGekko

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Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2932

3/26/13 1:33:10 PM#47

The preview looks really promising. Good to see SyFy producing some real SciFi for a change ! 

 

If the show cooks, it will draw a lot of eyeballs, and they will all get to see the game adverts and promotions... things are looking up...

  lordtwisted

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Joined: 9/24/04
Posts: 564

 
OP  3/26/13 1:41:53 PM#48
Originally posted by DJMantiss
The show looks promising and the CGI is what you expect from the Syfy channel. Even the Defiance Game's story is good and funny at times. I just wish they had actually made a full fledged game and not what we will be receiving on April 2nd.

Don't dimiss the game yet, according to Trion reps on their forums, and sccording to someone that played the actual release version at GDC the game has a lot more to it then what the beta showed, more map, more "dungeons", etc... not to mention wen the ark fall loot is turned on they suggest all new things will open for us. 

Not so nice guy!

  DAS1337

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Joined: 11/28/07
Posts: 2379

3/26/13 1:43:18 PM#49
Originally posted by lordtwisted
Originally posted by DAS1337

Wow.. you guys got me all interested in watching it, making it sound so good.

 

I'll be honest here, I have no idea what you people were looking at.  The CGI was pretty poor in a lot of areas.  I mean, sometimes it looked like I was watching the original cinematics for Starcraft 1.  You know, the part, with the buggy, which looked oddly familiar to the one the two characters were driving in the beginning of the episode.

 

Plus, and I'm sick and tired of seeing this in movies.  NO ONE SHAKES THE WHEEL BACK AND FORTH IN REAL LIFE, EVER!  It was driving me crazy,  Why do film producers do this?  Does no one tell them that it looks stupid?  Do any of you shake the wheel back and forth endlessly when you drive?  

 

The acting was pretty suspect in the beginning as well, from the guy more than anyone else.  

 

The premise is cool and I'm willing to give it a chance.  It just didn't hook me like Game of Thrones or Falling Skies.  Or even series like Breaking Bad or House.  The only interesting thing to me at this point is that the girl is pretty damn attractive.  

Hi Troll!

 First, the CGI was impressive, sorry you have such a ken eye you can pick up little flaws, we are humbled by your ability to not be fooled by a computer graphics designer! It was intended to be appealing, not to make you think it is all real life. 

 Secondly the bouncing steering wheel was do to the dirt road they were driving, they were not on paved streets, I would lve to see you go 4 wheeling in the boonies and hold your steering wheel straight while your suspension is twisting back and forth to support the vehicle. 

 

First off, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm a troll.  I gave my reasons, I didn't just jump in and jump out with a 'this sucks' line.  Stop trying to look cool.

 

I'll address both of your points.  Firstly, the CGI was not impressive.  There weren't subtle flaws.  At no point did I look at any of the CGI and feel that it was well done.  I've watched plenty of movies in my lifetime and I feel that I have a pretty good sense of what is good and what is bad.  It's not the worst, but it's certainly no where near what everyone here is making it out to be.  A lot of the CGI is grainy and fuzzy.  Rewatch it without a biased point of view and you will see it.

 

And to your second point.  Are you saying that while driving on dirt roads, you move the wheel back and forth like that?  Ask anyone who actually drives a vehicle of any kind (Because you clearly haven't yet) that erratic movement is not safe.  I can understand bouncing and shaking of the wheel.  I can understand slight direction changes and wobble based on rocks and elevations in the road.  What I can't understand is moving the wheel from 11 to 1, in a uniform fashion, nearly as if you were trying to pass a driving test with cones.  No suspension on any car that is working properly will shift back and forth like that.  It happens in way too many movies and shows and it frustrates me every time.  It's like how television depicts all video gamers.  Using their entire bodies and rapidly mashing all over the controller no matter what game is on the screen.  It's not realistic and my point of view is valid.  It breaks immersion.

 

Are you done now?

  SpottyGekko

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2932

3/26/13 1:52:58 PM#50
Originally posted by DAS1337
Originally posted by lordtwisted
Originally posted by DAS1337

Wow.. you guys got me all interested in watching it, making it sound so good.

 

I'll be honest here, I have no idea what you people were looking at.  The CGI was pretty poor in a lot of areas.  I mean, sometimes it looked like I was watching the original cinematics for Starcraft 1.  You know, the part, with the buggy, which looked oddly familiar to the one the two characters were driving in the beginning of the episode.

 

Plus, and I'm sick and tired of seeing this in movies.  NO ONE SHAKES THE WHEEL BACK AND FORTH IN REAL LIFE, EVER!  It was driving me crazy,  Why do film producers do this?  Does no one tell them that it looks stupid?  Do any of you shake the wheel back and forth endlessly when you drive?  

 

The acting was pretty suspect in the beginning as well, from the guy more than anyone else.  

 

The premise is cool and I'm willing to give it a chance.  It just didn't hook me like Game of Thrones or Falling Skies.  Or even series like Breaking Bad or House.  The only interesting thing to me at this point is that the girl is pretty damn attractive.  

Hi Troll!

 First, the CGI was impressive, sorry you have such a ken eye you can pick up little flaws, we are humbled by your ability to not be fooled by a computer graphics designer! It was intended to be appealing, not to make you think it is all real life. 

 Secondly the bouncing steering wheel was do to the dirt road they were driving, they were not on paved streets, I would lve to see you go 4 wheeling in the boonies and hold your steering wheel straight while your suspension is twisting back and forth to support the vehicle. 

 

First off, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm a troll.  I gave my reasons, I didn't just jump in and jump out with a 'this sucks' line.  Stop trying to look cool.

 

I'll address both of your points.  Firstly, the CGI was not impressive.  There weren't subtle flaws.  At no point did I look at any of the CGI and feel that it was well done.  I've watched plenty of movies in my lifetime and I feel that I have a pretty good sense of what is good and what is bad.  It's not the worst, but it's certainly no where near what everyone here is making it out to be.  A lot of the CGI is grainy and fuzzy.  Rewatch it without a biased point of view and you will see it.

 

And to your second point.  Are you saying that while driving on dirt roads, you move the wheel back and forth like that?  Ask anyone who actually drives a vehicle of any kind (Because you clearly haven't yet) that erratic movement is not safe.  I can understand bouncing and shaking of the wheel.  I can understand slight direction changes and wobble based on rocks and elevations in the road.  What I can't understand is moving the wheel from 11 to 1, in a uniform fashion, nearly as if you were trying to pass a driving test with cones.  No suspension on any car that is working properly will shift back and forth like that.  It happens in way too many movies and shows and it frustrates me every time.  It's like how television depicts all video gamers.  Using their entire bodies and rapidly mashing all over the controller no matter what game is on the screen.  It's not realistic and my point of view is valid.  It breaks immersion.

 

Are you done now?

Clearly you have no experience of driving on bad dirt roads or offroad. Just stop, you're digging the hole deeper by trying to argue about things you know nothing about.

  Bookah

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3/26/13 1:53:38 PM#51
Im hooked, that was an awesome 14 min.

  Volgore

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3/26/13 2:02:21 PM#52
As i expected, looks like one of these typical b-grade budget scifi series.
  lordtwisted

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Posts: 564

 
OP  3/26/13 2:03:54 PM#53
Originally posted by DAS1337
Originally posted by lordtwisted
Originally posted by DAS1337

Wow.. you guys got me all interested in watching it, making it sound so good.

 

I'll be honest here, I have no idea what you people were looking at.  The CGI was pretty poor in a lot of areas.  I mean, sometimes it looked like I was watching the original cinematics for Starcraft 1.  You know, the part, with the buggy, which looked oddly familiar to the one the two characters were driving in the beginning of the episode.

 

Plus, and I'm sick and tired of seeing this in movies.  NO ONE SHAKES THE WHEEL BACK AND FORTH IN REAL LIFE, EVER!  It was driving me crazy,  Why do film producers do this?  Does no one tell them that it looks stupid?  Do any of you shake the wheel back and forth endlessly when you drive?  

 

The acting was pretty suspect in the beginning as well, from the guy more than anyone else.  

 

The premise is cool and I'm willing to give it a chance.  It just didn't hook me like Game of Thrones or Falling Skies.  Or even series like Breaking Bad or House.  The only interesting thing to me at this point is that the girl is pretty damn attractive.  

Hi Troll!

 First, the CGI was impressive, sorry you have such a ken eye you can pick up little flaws, we are humbled by your ability to not be fooled by a computer graphics designer! It was intended to be appealing, not to make you think it is all real life. 

 Secondly the bouncing steering wheel was do to the dirt road they were driving, they were not on paved streets, I would lve to see you go 4 wheeling in the boonies and hold your steering wheel straight while your suspension is twisting back and forth to support the vehicle. 

 

First off, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm a troll.  I gave my reasons, I didn't just jump in and jump out with a 'this sucks' line.  Stop trying to look cool.

 

I'll address both of your points.  Firstly, the CGI was not impressive.  There weren't subtle flaws.  At no point did I look at any of the CGI and feel that it was well done.  I've watched plenty of movies in my lifetime and I feel that I have a pretty good sense of what is good and what is bad.  It's not the worst, but it's certainly no where near what everyone here is making it out to be.  A lot of the CGI is grainy and fuzzy.  Rewatch it without a biased point of view and you will see it.

 

And to your second point.  Are you saying that while driving on dirt roads, you move the wheel back and forth like that?  Ask anyone who actually drives a vehicle of any kind (Because you clearly haven't yet) that erratic movement is not safe.  I can understand bouncing and shaking of the wheel.  I can understand slight direction changes and wobble based on rocks and elevations in the road.  What I can't understand is moving the wheel from 11 to 1, in a uniform fashion, nearly as if you were trying to pass a driving test with cones.  No suspension on any car that is working properly will shift back and forth like that.  It happens in way too many movies and shows and it frustrates me every time.  It's like how television depicts all video gamers.  Using their entire bodies and rapidly mashing all over the controller no matter what game is on the screen.  It's not realistic and my point of view is valid.  It breaks immersion.

 

Are you done now?

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 I have been driving for over 30 years. I have driven roads that would make people like you pee your pants. I have driven roads in a vehicle built for driving off road that will literally pick you up out of your seat and bang your head on the roof, I have driven roads that have twisted the entire vehicle to a point that the doors would not stay shut. 

 I have driven at speeds in excess of 200MPH, I have driven cars capable of 7 second quarter mile times.  I have driven trucks capable of crushing cars, and cars so low they can not get over a speed bump. 

 

   When it comes to driving I think I can tell you, "Bump steer" is a real thing. How much it moves your steering wheel is determined by your shocks, control arms, wheels, and linkage. Then of course you have the factors of the road they are driving, are there water washes on it? Large rocks in it? Etc... 

 Bump steer has a million factors, and can cause musch more erratic steering then in that video, and as I said sometimes capable of putting a persons head through their side window. 

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Not so nice guy!

  Warjin

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3/26/13 3:52:43 PM#54
Originally posted by DAS1337

Wow.. you guys got me all interested in watching it, making it sound so good.

 

I'll be honest here, I have no idea what you people were looking at.  The CGI was pretty poor in a lot of areas.  I mean, sometimes it looked like I was watching the original cinematics for Starcraft 1.  You know, the part, with the buggy, which looked oddly familiar to the one the two characters were driving in the beginning of the episode.

 

Plus, and I'm sick and tired of seeing this in movies.  NO ONE SHAKES THE WHEEL BACK AND FORTH IN REAL LIFE, EVER!  It was driving me crazy,  Why do film producers do this?  Does no one tell them that it looks stupid?  Do any of you shake the wheel back and forth endlessly when you drive?  

 

The acting was pretty suspect in the beginning as well, from the guy more than anyone else.  

 

The premise is cool and I'm willing to give it a chance.  It just didn't hook me like Game of Thrones or Falling Skies.  Or even series like Breaking Bad or House.  The only interesting thing to me at this point is that the girl is pretty damn attractive.  

I take it you never went offroading, the wheel is allways back and forth, you logic fails sorry. (Google off road cockpit view)

everything else is just a matter of taste.

 

  ElRenmazuo

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3/26/13 4:34:59 PM#55
Originally posted by DAS1337

Wow.. you guys got me all interested in watching it, making it sound so good.

 

I'll be honest here, I have no idea what you people were looking at.  The CGI was pretty poor in a lot of areas.  I mean, sometimes it looked like I was watching the original cinematics for Starcraft 1.  You know, the part, with the buggy, which looked oddly familiar to the one the two characters were driving in the beginning of the episode.

 

Plus, and I'm sick and tired of seeing this in movies.  NO ONE SHAKES THE WHEEL BACK AND FORTH IN REAL LIFE, EVER!  It was driving me crazy,  Why do film producers do this?  Does no one tell them that it looks stupid?  Do any of you shake the wheel back and forth endlessly when you drive?  

 

The acting was pretty suspect in the beginning as well, from the guy more than anyone else.  

 

The premise is cool and I'm willing to give it a chance.  It just didn't hook me like Game of Thrones or Falling Skies.  Or even series like Breaking Bad or House.  The only interesting thing to me at this point is that the girl is pretty damn attractive.  

Try driving off road on rugged terrain lets see how steady you keep the wheel lol.  The CGI looked good to me and prolly to most people. Falling Skies was crap and had realy shitty CGI effects.

  r3dl4nce

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3/27/13 4:19:40 AM#56
Originally posted by Ilaya

If someone outside US wanna watch this, go here and enjoy :)

http://www.serien-load.de/blog/die-minuten-syfy-defiance/

Sidenote: I know you perhaps cant read the text :) scroll down to the Vid and click on it

Second link to an english site:

http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/03/defiance-episode-101-pilot-watch-first.html

Thanks a lot!

I think Trion and Syfy are doing a great work. Game is good (don't listen to all the haters who just played 5 minutes in beta, game is getting better and better as you go on, Marin is great, San Francisco is simply amazing!), TV show seems a new Firefly and I can't wait to see it. 

Great work, really great work!

  Volkon

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Facts do not require fiction for balance.

3/27/13 2:30:12 PM#57
Originally posted by DAS1337

And to your second point.  Are you saying that while driving on dirt roads, you move the wheel back and forth like that?  Ask anyone who actually drives a vehicle of any kind (Because you clearly haven't yet) that erratic movement is not safe.  I can understand bouncing and shaking of the wheel.  I can understand slight direction changes and wobble based on rocks and elevations in the road.  What I can't understand is moving the wheel from 11 to 1, in a uniform fashion, nearly as if you were trying to pass a driving test with cones.  No suspension on any car that is working properly will shift back and forth like that.  It happens in way too many movies and shows and it frustrates me every time.  It's like how television depicts all video gamers.  Using their entire bodies and rapidly mashing all over the controller no matter what game is on the screen.  It's not realistic and my point of view is valid.  It breaks immersion.

 

Are you done now?

 

Actually... rocks, ruts etc. in the dirt road move the tires (and the wheel as a result) which causes the driver to react by turning slightly the other direction to compensate, then turn a little back to straighten. When you have rough road, this is nearly continual and can look like your shaking back and forth a lot. Basically, if you don't you wind up in a ditch.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  stragen001

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Mr Flibble is VERY cross

3/27/13 3:37:19 PM#58
Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Originally posted by Asheram

It has been posted on youtube if some are having trouble watching it on syfy.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaowWi9p9TM

That vid is no longer accessible, looks like the network objected to their region lock being circumvented...

Yup, I cant find it anywhere now. DAMN REGION LOCK

Edit: Anyone that wants to watch it that isnt in the USA, use the proxy 69.85.87.250 : 3128 then goto www.syfy.com

Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom

  SysFail

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4/01/13 4:31:32 AM#59
I just noticed the show has Jaime Murray, us men(and some ladies) are in for a real treat from this English rose. 
  firefly2003

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I miss you Star Wars Galaxies...:(

4/01/13 4:53:51 AM#60
I enjoyed the 14min teaser and the beta for the game even though a lot of the stuff was intentionally left out of the beta for launch to give people lots of suprises and I'm all for it , The show and the game reminds me a lot of Firefly and Farscape with a dash of War of the Worlds (80's TV show).
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