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  observer

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First came pride, then envy.

3/24/13 9:18:04 PM#41
There's always people still.  Most are just busy doing things such as dailies, dungeons, exploring, etc.   As mentioned, just use guesting for different servers, then scope it out, and if you can, transfer to them.
  FlawSGI

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3/24/13 11:21:38 PM#42
Originally posted by Soki123

The fullness of a server is a load of crap. I really enjoyed the game for awhile, and still think it s ok. That said, I was on Sorrows Furnace, logged in , and it said very heavy. I thought ok I ll get some decent WvW action, nope, dead, next to nothing. Ok, well off to pve,  more people then in WvW, but not by much. Ok , lets make try out and see if the starter areas are busy. Made and deleted a new char in each starter zone, ran around a bit to see if I run itno any, All of them were pretty damn barren.

This happens all the time, the amount of people, on the server list is a load. Anyone that says it isn t like that, is completely blind.

 

I decided to take you up on that comment and log in. Right as I popped in there were 2 others runnign around.

Nearby the champion troll was up so I tagged along and we took it down. This is without even moving through the area, only where I logged in. Knowing this is the Sylvari starting area which is one of the least popular. I decided to switch to a character and go to Queensdale.

 

Heres one where I am in Queensdale just passing by. Plenty of people doing the event.

 

I don't argue population sizes, especially regarding other servers. I see plenty of people on Dragonsbrand all the time and this isn't even mentioned as one of the top servers. I am aware that seeing 2-3 other people isn't a lot of players, but this was done at midnight (notice the timestamps) on a monday morning without even trying to find others. I could waypoint to any world boss, or popular event and you'd see a lot of people there but that is a bad example because people guest and farm them all the time so I thought I would keep it simple and dispute the claims specifically by the guy I quoted. Hope this helps to alleviate some of the confusion. I don't argue server size but I can show proof that the areas are not barren. Now the mid to high level areas are another story all together lol.

 

 

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  Homitu

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3/25/13 12:10:49 AM#43
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by Celestialnova

I appreciate all the responses, and I like the guesting idea to find a "better" server.  Also to note the reason I am not with my gw1 server was because they were based in the UK and with the servers at launch couldn't get over there.

With that said, does anyone know if their population tracker is based on characters or people online?  I just can't imagine that we're very high when I was running around like that.  Regardless, I do hope to get into the game more.  I just can't imagine why they didn't merge servers or try to get back to what GW1 was when the pop dipped (like every mmo does after launch).  Especially with a game focused on the community more in my opinion.  Oh well, sadly I missed the free transfer T.T 

The server analog population counts (low, medium, high, very high, full) are manipulated by devs / publishers to make people still playing the game feel as though the game is still very popular.  Kind of a morale booster I suppose.

 

ie, a Very High or Full rating when a game comes out means there are players everywhere (and with GW2 every single zone is in overflow), and later on that same rating means something lesser.  The rating is still useful for comparing server X to server Y though.  It's based on a numeric population.

 

Other games have done this in the past as well, so it's not that uncommon.  SWTOR was the most recent to do this before GW2, for instance.  Last time Arenanet fudged the ratings, fans defending the game saying it was correct, but everyone was in instances, which was funny:D

So you make an unsubstantiated claim without having actual evidence to support it and are met with an unsubstantiated response that also lacks any actual evidence.  You then use the apparently self-evident absurdity of this later claim as further proof of your initial claim.  

Don't you find that funny?

 

To recap:

Speculation A is met with Speculation B.  

The obvious absurdity of Speculation B therefore proves Speculation A?

I must have missed this proof in logic class.  

  jpnz

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3/25/13 12:31:21 AM#44
Originally posted by Homitu
 

 

The 'server pop' status is actually un-reliable as ANet stated that server pop is based upon player's home server.

I can be from SoR but even if I'm guesting on TC, it'll count me as SoR server pop.

 

For anyone considering getting GW2, the top 3 are Tarnished Coast (the #1), Sea of Sorrows and Aurora Glade (For EU).

Or just guest on those 3.

I have to say, TC are not too-friendly to guesters as us filthy guesters 'took our jerbs!! (i mean chest / dragon / unicorn / plants vs zombies)

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  Kaleston

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3/25/13 2:30:58 AM#45

Heya, gw2 is till alive and kicking. According to guys in ANET, people that were overhyped left early after release and now community is pretty stable, very slowly rising. As for servers, you should probably ask yourself what you want to do. For example Ring of Fire is very populated server, but most people like PvE and we suck in WvW big time (at this time anyway).

As for transfering, there is one more option. You can guest on server you want without changing your home server. I'm not exactly sure about all the implications, you definitely can't go to wvw defending any other than your home server, but apart from that, it seems all works fine (you can even join a guild on different server).

They removed free transfering because of WvW... there was too much griefing and "exploiting" because people could hop between servers without big problems.

  jpnz

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3/25/13 5:00:53 AM#46
Originally posted by Kaleston

Heya, gw2 is till alive and kicking. According to guys in ANET, people that were overhyped left early after release and now community is pretty stable, very slowly rising. As for servers, you should probably ask yourself what you want to do. For example Ring of Fire is very populated server, but most people like PvE and we suck in WvW big time (at this time anyway).

As for transfering, there is one more option. You can guest on server you want without changing your home server. I'm not exactly sure about all the implications, you definitely can't go to wvw defending any other than your home server, but apart from that, it seems all works fine (you can even join a guild on different server).

They removed free transfering because of WvW... there was too much griefing and "exploiting" because people could hop between servers without big problems.

You are at a disadvantage if you are guesting. Your WvW bonuses do not apply and I think your guild perks as well.

And while I guested on Ring of Fire, I found that it was pretty barren in the 30+ level zones. Although that's true for every server except TC.

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  fivoroth

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3/25/13 5:23:27 AM#47
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by Celestialnova

I appreciate all the responses, and I like the guesting idea to find a "better" server.  Also to note the reason I am not with my gw1 server was because they were based in the UK and with the servers at launch couldn't get over there.

With that said, does anyone know if their population tracker is based on characters or people online?  I just can't imagine that we're very high when I was running around like that.  Regardless, I do hope to get into the game more.  I just can't imagine why they didn't merge servers or try to get back to what GW1 was when the pop dipped (like every mmo does after launch).  Especially with a game focused on the community more in my opinion.  Oh well, sadly I missed the free transfer T.T 

The server analog population counts (low, medium, high, very high, full) are manipulated by devs / publishers to make people still playing the game feel as though the game is still very popular.  Kind of a morale booster I suppose.

 

ie, a Very High or Full rating when a game comes out means there are players everywhere (and with GW2 every single zone is in overflow), and later on that same rating means something lesser.  The rating is still useful for comparing server X to server Y though.  It's based on a numeric population.

 

Other games have done this in the past as well, so it's not that uncommon.  SWTOR was the most recent to do this before GW2, for instance.  Last time Arenanet fudged the ratings, fans defending the game saying it was correct, but everyone was in instances, which was funny:D

And I should believe you why? How do you know this stuff? Or are you just guessing?

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  Gaia_Hunter

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3/25/13 5:58:10 AM#48
Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by Celestialnova

I appreciate all the responses, and I like the guesting idea to find a "better" server.  Also to note the reason I am not with my gw1 server was because they were based in the UK and with the servers at launch couldn't get over there.

With that said, does anyone know if their population tracker is based on characters or people online?  I just can't imagine that we're very high when I was running around like that.  Regardless, I do hope to get into the game more.  I just can't imagine why they didn't merge servers or try to get back to what GW1 was when the pop dipped (like every mmo does after launch).  Especially with a game focused on the community more in my opinion.  Oh well, sadly I missed the free transfer T.T 

The server analog population counts (low, medium, high, very high, full) are manipulated by devs / publishers to make people still playing the game feel as though the game is still very popular.  Kind of a morale booster I suppose.

 

ie, a Very High or Full rating when a game comes out means there are players everywhere (and with GW2 every single zone is in overflow), and later on that same rating means something lesser.  The rating is still useful for comparing server X to server Y though.  It's based on a numeric population.

 

Other games have done this in the past as well, so it's not that uncommon.  SWTOR was the most recent to do this before GW2, for instance.  Last time Arenanet fudged the ratings, fans defending the game saying it was correct, but everyone was in instances, which was funny:D

And I should believe you why? How do you know this stuff? Or are you just guessing?

When a genre is filled with games that don't reach the financial expectations, it is easy to guess a game of that genre will fail.

The problem is when  a game actual meet or surpass the financial goals.

You have no server merges, no people getting fired, etc.

 

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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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3/25/13 7:01:08 AM#49
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

When a genre is filled with games that don't reach the financial expectations, it is easy to guess a game of that genre will fail.

The problem is when  a game actual meet or surpass the financial goals.

You have no server merges, no people getting fired, etc.

ArenaNET are actually recruiting people for Guild Wars 2. Strange behavior for a failing game, don't you think? ;-)

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  Celcius

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3/25/13 7:42:11 AM#50
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

When a genre is filled with games that don't reach the financial expectations, it is easy to guess a game of that genre will fail.

The problem is when  a game actual meet or surpass the financial goals.

You have no server merges, no people getting fired, etc.

ArenaNET are actually recruiting people for Guild Wars 2. Strange behavior for a failing game, don't you think? ;-)

This ^

Also lol @ guy claiming that he is "helping" the OP by just blatantly using his question as an uninformed way to attack the game. 

  observer

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First came pride, then envy.

3/25/13 7:51:41 AM#51

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

  timeraider

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3/25/13 8:00:18 AM#52
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

The problem for me with GW2 was.. gw2 spvp and wvw are for example made to work with a certain minimal amount for it to be succesfull... atm gw2 does usually not reach amount for spvp and wvw.

I am always totally focussed on PvP so having 1 hour+ paid tournament Ques after ive finally convinced people to make a paid tournament team .. just screwed it over for me

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  Celcius

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3/25/13 8:04:21 AM#53
Originally posted by timeraider
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

The problem for me with GW2 was.. gw2 spvp and wvw are for example made to work with a certain minimal amount for it to be succesfull... atm gw2 does usually not reach amount for spvp and wvw.

I am always totally focussed on PvP so having 1 hour+ paid tournament Ques after ive finally convinced people to make a paid tournament team .. just screwed it over for me

Do a tournament now, they are instant ques pretty much all the time. (They changed it to one round as well) I agree that sPvP is not very popular compared to other parts of the game but not WvW. WvW is incredibly popular. The thing is that after the first few days the match is already determined so there is not much reason to keep going for the week since there is no progression in WvW. That is being fixed this week ;)

  hikaru77

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3/25/13 8:14:36 AM#54
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

Being a fanboy in this case, do not help. The top 3 servers in gw2 have a good population, but thats not the case with all the servers were they really have population issues, but since you have to pay to transfer is GG and Anet win.   The server status do not help also, since only Anet know how that really works, i mean, u can play in a Very heavy server but ingame is pretty much a wasteland.

  muthax

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3/25/13 8:21:21 AM#55
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

I was on Argent Dawn (EU RP server, always marked as HIGH or FULL) just this weekend, created a forsaken and levelled it to 16. I must have seen a grand total of 2-3 other players and one was a high level Alliance DK who wanted to duel me...

 

 

  observer

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First came pride, then envy.

3/25/13 3:59:15 PM#56
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

Being a fanboy in this case, do not help. The top 3 servers in gw2 have a good population, but thats not the case with all the servers were they really have population issues, but since you have to pay to transfer is GG and Anet win.   The server status do not help also, since only Anet know how that really works, i mean, u can play in a Very heavy server but ingame is pretty much a wasteland.

Ah, the "fanboy" label.  That's funny, because i've also been labeled a "hater" against GW2 before.  I have no idea which one i am! :p

Your claim that it's a wasteland is unfounded.  I believe you must be judging activity by chat channels.  If so, that doesn't measure population at all.  Announce an event in chat, and you'll be surprised how many players will show up and help.

I'm not on a top 3 server either.  I'm on Darkhaven-US.  There is people everywhere i go.  Don't get me wrong though, some zones are less popular and the population seems top-heavy now, but there is still lots of people making alts.

You are complaining about paid transfers, which is odd.  Players had several months to transfer for free.  You can also use Guesting now.

  Bad.dog

Elite Member

Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 849

3/25/13 4:41:01 PM#57
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

Being a fanboy in this case, do not help. The top 3 servers in gw2 have a good population, but thats not the case with all the servers were they really have population issues, but since you have to pay to transfer is GG and Anet win.   The server status do not help also, since only Anet know how that really works, i mean, u can play in a Very heavy server but ingame is pretty much a wasteland.

Reading your post has me asking some questions ....How can you say so much wrong in only five lines?

What are the top three servers ?

Why do you have to pay to transfer anywhere when you can guest ?

How long since you actually played the game ?

Did you actually ever play GW2?

Why do you post about something you have no knowledge about ?

What servers are a wastland ?

 

 

  RizelStar

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Joined: 8/12/11
Posts: 2818

We all breathe and we all die.

3/25/13 5:10:25 PM#58
Originally posted by Bad.dog
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

Being a fanboy in this case, do not help. The top 3 servers in gw2 have a good population, but thats not the case with all the servers were they really have population issues, but since you have to pay to transfer is GG and Anet win.   The server status do not help also, since only Anet know how that really works, i mean, u can play in a Very heavy server but ingame is pretty much a wasteland.

Reading your post has me asking some questions ....How can you say so much wrong in only five lines?

What are the top three servers ?

Why do you have to pay to transfer anywhere when you can guest ?

How long since you actually played the game ?

Did you actually ever play GW2?

Why do you post about something you have no knowledge about ?

What servers are a wastland ?

 

 

I'm sure he played, cause people these days will pay 60 dollars to hate on a game even more than they already have.

 Looking at everysingle post it started with one person saying "Well only top 3 servers are populated." something along those lines, then after that each and almost every single person who is constantly against GW2 daily 24/7  some how came to the exact same conclusion, and it does not surprise me. Period.

But okay let me stop before another thread pops up saying

Why...

 

P.S - Sanctum of Rall must be in the top 3, we talking population right? Though it will be awkward if Sanctum of Rall isn't in the top 3 servers because that would only mean...

 

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  MindTrigger

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Joined: 12/19/07
Posts: 2628

3/25/13 5:15:50 PM#59

GW2 is very successful.  While it's not really the most thrilling game for a sandbox lover like me, I still enjoy playing around in there casually while I wait for other games to come out later this year.

Fort Aspenwood is a very active server, though you should expect lower level areas to be low on people at times.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2445

3/26/13 8:54:34 AM#60
Originally posted by RizelStar
Originally posted by Bad.dog
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by observer

It's funny people claiming that GW2 is empty.  With that logic, so is WoW.  Go make a new character on a realm and you'll see.  Servers listed as New Players don't count either, since they are funneled there.

It's a known fact that starter zones tend to be less populated after the initial hype, and even so, this isn't even the case in GW2.

Being a fanboy in this case, do not help. The top 3 servers in gw2 have a good population, but thats not the case with all the servers were they really have population issues, but since you have to pay to transfer is GG and Anet win.   The server status do not help also, since only Anet know how that really works, i mean, u can play in a Very heavy server but ingame is pretty much a wasteland.

Reading your post has me asking some questions ....How can you say so much wrong in only five lines?

What are the top three servers ?

Why do you have to pay to transfer anywhere when you can guest ?

How long since you actually played the game ?

Did you actually ever play GW2?

Why do you post about something you have no knowledge about ?

What servers are a wastland ?

 

 

I'm sure he played, cause people these days will pay 60 dollars to hate on a game even more than they already have.

 Looking at everysingle post it started with one person saying "Well only top 3 servers are populated." something along those lines, then after that each and almost every single person who is constantly against GW2 daily 24/7  some how came to the exact same conclusion, and it does not surprise me. Period.

But okay let me stop before another thread pops up saying

Why...

 

P.S - Sanctum of Rall must be in the top 3, we talking population right? Though it will be awkward if Sanctum of Rall isn't in the top 3 servers because that would only mean...

 

The fun thing is that I'm on Desolation (EU) that is one of the bigger servers and currently isn't in the top 3.

Most GW2 players are PvE players. Any game that offers PvE and PvP will always have more PvE players. Even though WvW isn't a pure PvP mode, it still is PvP.

Also I hope Timeraider isn't still waiting in the queue for those paid tournaments.

 

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