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Defiance 

General Discussion  » I wonder.. will this game be worth buying?

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  User Deleted
3/22/13 5:58:18 PM#21
Originally posted by Aerowyn
aside from the VO and opening sequence firefall feels like a higher budget game to me which i highly doubt it is in anyway.. very sad about this cancelled my pre-order with amazon.. going to continue to play more this weekend to try out some further along content but overall nothing really peaked my interest while playing. Very few big budget games do i get bored with in the first day.. hell even swtor got a few weeks out of me..

I dont think ive seen you really like anything but GW2 so im not shocked here.  At that defiance does seem like a more interesting GW2... even when you do seem to like a game your view is more negative towards it than positive.

 

I will say, there are a lot of similarities with GW2 and this game, which isnt shocking since Rift was a more standard themepark version of GW2 and this game here seems more of a scifi Rift. 

 

But i think im the opposite of you here, this game seems a lot more interesting, and it does seem to have a slight, i mean really slight, sandboxy character progression.  You dont seem locked into a single class and weapon archtype. Though your skills define that i guess.

 

And il will mention that this game looks and plays like a much higher budget game than firefall, much higher. 

 

Who knows.  Engame will be the great equalizer on this game.

 

 

 

 

  Aerowyn

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3/22/13 6:08:59 PM#22
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Aerowyn
aside from the VO and opening sequence firefall feels like a higher budget game to me which i highly doubt it is in anyway.. very sad about this cancelled my pre-order with amazon.. going to continue to play more this weekend to try out some further along content but overall nothing really peaked my interest while playing. Very few big budget games do i get bored with in the first day.. hell even swtor got a few weeks out of me..

I dont think ive seen you really like anything but GW2 so im not shocked here.  At that defiance does seem like a more interesting GW2... even when you do seem to like a game your view is more negative towards it than positive.

 

I will say, there are a lot of similarities with GW2 and this game, which isnt shocking since Rift was a more standard themepark version of GW2 and this game here seems more of a scifi Rift. 

 

But i think im the opposite of you here, this game seems a lot more interesting, and it does seem to have a slight, i mean really slight, sandboxy character progression.  You dont seem locked into a single class and weapon archtype. Though your skills define that i guess.

 

And il will mention that this game looks and plays like a much higher budget game than firefall, much higher. 

 

Who knows.  Engame will be the great equalizer on this game.

 

 

 

 

heh i like most MMOs i just happen to like gw2 the most right now but i enjoyed my time in pretty much every major MMO release since meridian 59... but like I said i'm not a huge fan of shooters to begin with but I have enjoy several third person shooters over the years and right now firefall is the only other MMO shooter I have played recently and find firefall(as of the last firefall patch) a more "polished" game overall especially in the overall shooting and movement aspects.. after enjoying Rift for almost a year and a big fan of trion in general I'm just very dissapointed with this game overall.. but again ill give it more playtime but as of about 20 hours played between last beta weekend and this one so far not really enjoying the game much at all.

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  Krytycal

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3/22/13 7:04:22 PM#23

Game is alright. It won't satisfy the full-time gamers, nor the sandbox crowd, but no game ever does.  It's not the best shooter ever created and it's not the most in-depth MMORPG, but it's a solid mix of both and the combat is more enjoyable than the usual button-mash RPG.

As a hardcore gamer I do wish there was a little bit more depth to the game, but what they have so far works and is a step in the right direction. It is certainly better than the competition.

If you're the type of player who logs in for a couple of hours to shoot the shit then you might like Defiance. 

  Ginaz

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3/22/13 7:12:10 PM#24
My first impression is that the UI is total and utter shit designed for consoles (it is releasing on PS3 and 360 as well as PC).  It took me a good 5 mins or so to figure out where the exit game command was.  I think Trion dropped the ball big time with this one and might be in some serious trouble.

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  tuscarora

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3/24/13 11:59:45 AM#25
Game is trash, tried 3 times, it's basically Borderlands without the fun.
  SlothnChunk

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3/24/13 12:03:30 PM#26
Played the beta yesterday on my Xbox...it's a lot of fun. Ordered the game today for Xbox.
  SubAtomicAsh

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3/24/13 12:30:28 PM#27
I would say if your going to buy it get it for xbox/ps3 works well on console
  DMKano

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3/24/13 9:58:08 PM#28

Alpha tester here with about 280 hours played - preorderd a PC version for myself, and 2 Xbox versions for my nephews.

I find Defiance absolute fun, even after completing all the content in alpha.

Obviously everyone is different, some will love it some will hate it, to me its so worth $60, your milage may vary.

  Deerhunter71

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3/24/13 10:03:07 PM#29
Originally posted by Dartmed

 

Well this is my personal opinion for what is worth...

Character creation very outdated (not much in there)

Dynamic Events = Boring grind after some hours (Remember Rift ....?)

Missions = Standard 3rd person linear. You can find better in single player games and because defiance fails to implement the need for grouping you might be better off.

Challenges : If you are a leaderboard maniac then maybe for a while

PVP : instanced pvp with generic goals (also broken during the last 2 betas)

Overall the game is mediocre, its not all that bad but is not great either. I believe that the all platform gameplay also hurts what it could be …. I couldn’t get an MMO feeling but rather a single player game with lots of ppl running around co-oping .

What I recommended to my blog audience was to consider it of it gets on sale on some time but not to go ahead and buy it . 

The post is not meant to be a flame and is my 2 cents . I believe that the beta can give a very good appraise of the game for anyone to decide if they want to buy it .  

Yeah - I played a lot more today and not buying right away either.  Feels more like a $29.99 or maybe $39.99 game but not $60...  It was okay but not enough to keep ya comig back day after day..

  Aerowyn

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3/24/13 10:04:50 PM#30
Originally posted by DMKano

Alpha tester here with about 280 hours played - preorderd a PC version for myself, and 2 Xbox versions for my nephews.

I find Defiance absolute fun, even after completing all the content in alpha.

Obviously everyone is different, some will love it some will hate it, to me its so worth $60, your milage may vary.

this pretty much sums it up.. for me i pre-ordered back when amazon first put it up because i think trion is a good developer and the videos I saw looked fun.. but alas couldn't make it through two beta weekends without pulling the plug.. everyones mileage will vary on any game..

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  GrayGhost79

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3/24/13 10:06:41 PM#31
Originally posted by Siveria
Yeah its kinda like firefall a very basic game, firefall has no real loot period your handed everything when you get enough exp to unlock that weapon or gear piece. Think I might stay away from defiance as well. I'd rather buy monster hunter 3 ultimate for my 3ds, cheaper, and i'll probally get more enjoyment out of it than some generic shooter wannabe-mmo.

Firefall is as similar to Defiance as GW2 is to WoW. With that said though I would recomend you skip the game. You have already played it and have stated that it puts you to sleep, that alone probably means you shouldn't buy it. I personally think its worth the buy, but it didn't put me to sleep so... lol. 

  Eir_S

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3/24/13 10:08:00 PM#32
Well for me personally, from what I've heard I wouldn't pre-order it.  I think it'll be a good bargain when the price comes down.
  kartool

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3/24/13 10:13:59 PM#33
I would consider buying it for $20-$30 but $60 seems way too much for what I've seen so far. Who knows, if they support it well and do some interesting things between the game and show barring the show isn't crap it could be good. The UI is terrible and chatting is really setup badly - it's all consolized really. I think the game looks good, not as pretty as PS2 but decent. The vehicles are kind of fun, but that wears off. The shooter aspects are pretty basic. The questing can be a pain if you're not there with crowds, you can die a lot trying to get things done solo if no one else is doing the same quest. The voice acting is passable, but some of it is terrible. The story, the little bit I played of it is uninspiring and that's being generous. It's not a game I itch to play.
  Cryptor

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3/24/13 10:18:50 PM#34

When it comes to everyone looking thesame - You start out as one of 4 "clasess" and within the first 10 - 20 minutes of gameplay you get an opportunity to customize your look (first camp after tutorial).  As you progress you pick up (and get an opportunity to buy) literally 100's of costiume options.  So, shile it starts out just like evry other game in this respect you quickly get ccess to a variety that is far above and beyond what most mmorpgs offer.

This is a shooter mmo, everythign hinges on your skill as a player and not macroing or figuring out the "best build".

Rockets are lame and suck in PvP, even the basic machine guns are far better.  There is nothign broken about it.  People spam rockets 'couse they make big boom and that just makes them easy targets.  It's pointless.

There is a deep story and loads of quests in Defiance.  Just liek with any mmo it will seem lackluster if you ignore them.

There is more but i hate typing.

 

Personally I love this one and pre-ordered the ultimate edition.  It has depth, action and great graphics, in addition to that you get a TV show and it;s even Trion making it.  Imho you can't go wrong with a Trion game.

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  Stofftier

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3/24/13 10:25:50 PM#35
Doesnt appeal to me .... i think even tabula rasa had much more atmosphere you were droped in the game and you allways had that war feelin at every corner .
  DAS1337

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3/24/13 10:31:09 PM#36
Originally posted by Aerowyn
aside from the VO and opening sequence firefall feels like a higher budget game to me(and i don't even care for firefall that much) which i highly doubt it is in anyway.. very sad about this cancelled my pre-order with amazon.. going to continue to play more this weekend to try out some further along content but overall nothing really peaked my interest while playing. Very few big budget games do i get bored with in the first day.. hell even swtor got a few weeks out of me..

Yeah I can't agree with that.  As far as production quality, Defiance has Firefall beat.  I've played both.  While the combat may be a bit more fun and the controlds are a bit better, Firefall fails at performance.  I can run Defiance at maximum settings with no hiccups at all.  With Firefall, I'm freezing all over, it's so choppy at even medium settings that It's hard to even want to log in anymore.  

 

Trion will fix some of the glaring issues and I suspect that Defiance will end up being a solid B2P shooter in the long run.

  DAS1337

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3/24/13 10:33:51 PM#37
Originally posted by Stofftier
Doesnt appeal to me .... i think even tabula rasa had much more atmosphere you were droped in the game and you allways had that war feelin at every corner .

Tabula Rasa was horrible.  That's my opinion obviously.  It's hard to recognize the atmosphere when there's horrid rubberbanding, lag spikes, glitches, freezing, crashing and just about everything else that you can think of.  

  User Deleted
3/24/13 10:44:22 PM#38

When people say this game is designed for the console they forget its designed to use a gamepad more than the kb/mouse so theres no need for the wow type ui,all skills can be accessed by the gamepad easily.

If you don't like a pc game that utilizes a gamepad more than a kb then don't play it.

 

  Eir_S

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3/24/13 10:58:11 PM#39
Originally posted by johnisme

If you don't like a pc game that utilizes a gamepad more than a kb then don't play it.

Hmm, well I don't.  It's annoying as hell, so I guess that makes my decision easier.

  kartool

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3/24/13 11:18:22 PM#40
Originally posted by johnisme

When people say this game is designed for the console they forget its designed to use a gamepad more than the kb/mouse so theres no need for the wow type ui,all skills can be accessed by the gamepad easily.

If you don't like a pc game that utilizes a gamepad more than a kb then don't play it.

 

Considering the mouse and keyboard are the most common PC controllers people use, especially MMO gamers it's a little silly to think pc gamers should go out and buy an extra piece of hardware to play a game released on PC. It's also not too much to ask for a PC friendly UI for the pc version of the game. Console games aren't designed around a mouse and keyboard even though those peripherals are available for most modern consoles.

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