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  fiontar

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Posts: 3687

3/24/13 6:41:30 AM#41

I'm still having fun, but I can see all the signs of longevity issues I hate to see in an otherwise cool MMO.

I think B2P will help the game a lot, as will the tie in with the series.

The game will likely sink or swim on the quality of the DLC. The combat is fun and you definitely need to make use of terrain and cover in a number of missions, which I personally really like. However, the game world, though beautiful in it's own way, starts to become a blur of similar vistas and locales. I think on the content side, for me any way, the quality cutscenes during the main mission storyline make a huge difference for the game. The downside is that the story is linear, so after one or two runs through most people will be skipping them, plus the DLCs really will need to offer fully voiced and motion captured cutscenes to avoid fan disapointment.

I'm going to buy it. I already love the way the game lets you get to know key chracters from the series and the game wiorld itself. However, I'm couching my game play expectaions in that I will be very happy if I can get 80 to 160 hours out of the game as it ships. (I hope I'm right that it will provide at least that much). I think it will be a fun companion to the TV series and a nice change of pace type of title, rather than a game I'd want to play 15+ hours a week for months on end.

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  falconhand

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3/24/13 6:51:51 AM#42

Like spookydom said. I also agree there are some nice things in this game, but in the end I have more a fps feeling with it then a mmo feeling. For me I compare it with fallen earth. Your char walking feel like crap but when riding around in a car or on a chopper it is great.

If you like a fps mmo shooter kind of thing, I would suggest fallen earth.

Since the idea is that the game will be together with the tv show I have the feeling to much dlc will be added in a short time and you are allmost forced to buy and play them fast to keep up with the show.

Thats why I have decided to wait for a while, and will watch the tv show.

I have played the beta this weekend for lots of hours (when europe servers down, I continue on at the usa server) and like some others mentioned in there responses, where are the other players? Sometimes I see suddenly some purple dots but most of the time I am alone walking around and shooting things again and again.

But they can't ofcourse satisfy all. I am more the explorer and gatherer kind of mmo player. And maybe I am just getting to old for this kind of fps ;)

  Nicco77

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Joined: 8/04/12
Posts: 35

3/24/13 7:04:03 AM#43
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

3/24/13 8:26:52 AM#44
Originally posted by Nicco77
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

firefall imho has better animiations and more solid feeling shooting mechanics not to mention 3rd and 1st person views.. only thing defiance has over it in this department is world graphics..  i actually like the look of the cartoony character models in firefall a bit more than the defiance character models.. firefall just has pretty boring PVE overall which if improved would make it a really fun game...

the jump, dodge, and sprint animations are horrid in defiance i dunno how you could defend those.

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  BrownAle

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Joined: 3/16/13
Posts: 402

3/24/13 9:02:41 AM#45
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Nicco77
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

firefall imho has better animiations and more solid feeling shooting mechanics not to mention 3rd and 1st person views.. only thing defiance has over it in this department is world graphics..  i actually like the look of the cartoony character models in firefall a bit more than the defiance character models.. firefall just has pretty boring PVE overall which if improved would make it a really fun game...

the jump, dodge, and sprint animations are horrid in defiance i dunno how you could defend those.

And aside from that firefall is garbage compared to this game, might i add that firefall has been in beta what...a year now?

 

game mechanics and gameplay itself defiance wins hands down. that and defiance feels like a much larger budget game than firefall.  was never a fan of the super boring mining via guarding the thumper.  that got old real quick.

anyway, yes your character view is akward at first, something that takes about an hour to get over.  while run and jump animations are anything but realistic, were talking about a major non factor to a game being fun or not.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

3/24/13 9:08:08 AM#46
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Nicco77
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

firefall imho has better animiations and more solid feeling shooting mechanics not to mention 3rd and 1st person views.. only thing defiance has over it in this department is world graphics..  i actually like the look of the cartoony character models in firefall a bit more than the defiance character models.. firefall just has pretty boring PVE overall which if improved would make it a really fun game...

the jump, dodge, and sprint animations are horrid in defiance i dunno how you could defend those.

And aside from that firefall is garbage compared to this game, might i add that firefall has been in beta what...a year now?

 

game mechanics and gameplay itself defiance wins hands down. that and defiance feels like a much larger budget game than firefall.  was never a fan of the super boring mining via guarding the thumper.  that got old real quick.

don't agree at all i found firefall had a much more responsive and smooth shooting experience and was nice being able to go from first to third person. Firefall changed a lot in the last few patches.. overall i do agree its obvious defiance has the bigger budget and many more things going for it. But the animations really need work imho. 

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  BrownAle

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Joined: 3/16/13
Posts: 402

3/24/13 9:17:36 AM#47
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Nicco77
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

firefall imho has better animiations and more solid feeling shooting mechanics not to mention 3rd and 1st person views.. only thing defiance has over it in this department is world graphics..  i actually like the look of the cartoony character models in firefall a bit more than the defiance character models.. firefall just has pretty boring PVE overall which if improved would make it a really fun game...

the jump, dodge, and sprint animations are horrid in defiance i dunno how you could defend those.

And aside from that firefall is garbage compared to this game, might i add that firefall has been in beta what...a year now?

 

game mechanics and gameplay itself defiance wins hands down. that and defiance feels like a much larger budget game than firefall.  was never a fan of the super boring mining via guarding the thumper.  that got old real quick.

don't agree at all i found firefall had a much more responsive and smooth shooting experience and was nice being able to go from first to third person. Firefall changed a lot in the last few patches.. overall i do agree its obvious defiance has the bigger budget and many more things going for it. But the animations really need work imho. 

Nah firefall was just as smooth as defiance.  your letting run and jump aninmations, which has zero factor in a game being fun, as well as an akward tps view that takes about an hour to get use to ruin the game for you?

i mean i sometimes nitpick games but this is kinda over the top. i think defiance looks just fantastic, and it has unique gameplay, which is a big plus given how the mmorpg genere is right now.

still wont pick the game up until i hear about endgame.  somthing like that is a major factor, jump and run animations, and a TPS view that takes a very short time to get use to isnt.

if you havent already uninstalled after your brief play, i suggest you spend a few hours getting use to the game, it does have a learning curve.  the game was average at first but became very fun once i learned how to play and got use to its quirks. for me it was the weapon mechanics that once i learned, changed the game for me. 

 

again though i tend to nitpick more on the things that majorly effect the enjoyment factor of the game, character animations like running and jumping...lol yeah nice when they are realistic, but they never are realistic in any game, and it has zero bearing on if im having fun or not.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

3/24/13 9:21:57 AM#48
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Nicco77
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

firefall imho has better animiations and more solid feeling shooting mechanics not to mention 3rd and 1st person views.. only thing defiance has over it in this department is world graphics..  i actually like the look of the cartoony character models in firefall a bit more than the defiance character models.. firefall just has pretty boring PVE overall which if improved would make it a really fun game...

the jump, dodge, and sprint animations are horrid in defiance i dunno how you could defend those.

And aside from that firefall is garbage compared to this game, might i add that firefall has been in beta what...a year now?

 

game mechanics and gameplay itself defiance wins hands down. that and defiance feels like a much larger budget game than firefall.  was never a fan of the super boring mining via guarding the thumper.  that got old real quick.

don't agree at all i found firefall had a much more responsive and smooth shooting experience and was nice being able to go from first to third person. Firefall changed a lot in the last few patches.. overall i do agree its obvious defiance has the bigger budget and many more things going for it. But the animations really need work imho. 

Nah firefall was just as smooth.  your letting run and jump aninmations, which has zero factor in a game being fun, as well as an akward tps view that takes about an hour to get use to ruin the game for you?

i mean i sometimes nitpick games but this is kinda over the top. i think defiance looks just fantastic, and it has unique gameplay, which is a big plus given how the mmorpg genere is right now.

still wont pick the game up until i hear about endgame.  somthing like that is a major factor, jump and run animations, and a TPS view that takes a very short time to get use to isnt.

no the animations aren't what ruin this game for me but obviously don't help.. it just feels very generic to me all around. Nothing really sucked me in or wanted me to continue playing at all(between two weekend betas put in about 20 hours total)..  also not sure what you mean by unique gameplay it plays like a basic third person shooter without a decent cover mechanic.. i'm a big fan of trion overall but really let down so far by this one.. oh well

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Vlacke

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Posts: 154

3/24/13 9:25:12 AM#49
Edit - I made a mess of the post, disregard this please..
  BrownAle

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Posts: 402

3/24/13 9:32:39 AM#50

but hey the firefall forums are over there--->

 

that game is low pop for a reason, your not going to pick up many players here.

 

our thoughts on defaiance beta have nothing to do with that game or what that game does, try to stay on topic?

 

 

-yes you made that post a hot mess. take it to the firefall forums.

  Vlacke

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3/24/13 9:34:09 AM#51
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Nicco77
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

firefall imho has better animiations and more solid feeling shooting mechanics not to mention 3rd and 1st person views.. only thing defiance has over it in this department is world graphics..  i actually like the look of the cartoony character models in firefall a bit more than the defiance character models.. firefall just has pretty boring PVE overall which if improved would make it a really fun game...

the jump, dodge, and sprint animations are horrid in defiance i dunno how you could defend those.

And aside from that firefall is garbage compared to this game, might i add that firefall has been in beta what...a year now?

 

game mechanics and gameplay itself defiance wins hands down. that and defiance feels like a much larger budget game than firefall.  was never a fan of the super boring mining via guarding the thumper.  that got old real quick.

anyway, yes your character view is akward at first, something that takes about an hour to get over.  while run and jump animations are anything but realistic, were talking about a major non factor to a game being fun or not.

It has to be said that this is simply not true, not by any stretch of the imagination, in fact Firefall is superior to Defiance when it comes to both movement and shooting mechanics which are the most important things when it comes to shooters.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
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3/24/13 9:39:54 AM#52
Originally posted by Vlacke

 

game mechanics and gameplay itself defiance wins hands down. that and defiance feels like a much larger budget game than firefall.  was never a fan of the super boring mining via guarding the thumper.  that got old real quick.

anyway, yes your character view is akward at first, something that takes about an hour to get over.  while run and jump animations are anything but realistic, were talking about a major non factor to a game being fun or not.

It has to be said that this is simply not true, not by any stretch of the imagination, in fact Firefall is superior to Defiance when it comes to both movement and shooting mechanics which are the most important things when it comes to shooters.

this is what i found as well.. i'm not really a big fan of firefall overall and actually don't enjoy shooters that much tbh but it's not hard to tell when a game has smoother and more fluid shooting mechanics overall which obviously is the biggest thing in a shooter game.  Only real reason I bring up firefall in comparison is because firefall is the only other mmo shooter i have played recently to make a comparison to.

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  BrownAle

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3/24/13 9:39:58 AM#53
Originally posted by Vlacke
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Nicco77
Originally posted by GeeksWithGames
Firefall seems very interesting, I haven't had a chance to sit down with it yet.

Firefall it's free,this is the main reason that brings more people to say it's better,obviusly there are many who are trying to redirect hype towards Firefall for this reason,because if these people judge Defiance overall graphics and animation as poor I don't really understand how could be possible that they like Firefall look which is worst.

firefall imho has better animiations and more solid feeling shooting mechanics not to mention 3rd and 1st person views.. only thing defiance has over it in this department is world graphics..  i actually like the look of the cartoony character models in firefall a bit more than the defiance character models.. firefall just has pretty boring PVE overall which if improved would make it a really fun game...

the jump, dodge, and sprint animations are horrid in defiance i dunno how you could defend those.

And aside from that firefall is garbage compared to this game, might i add that firefall has been in beta what...a year now?

 

game mechanics and gameplay itself defiance wins hands down. that and defiance feels like a much larger budget game than firefall.  was never a fan of the super boring mining via guarding the thumper.  that got old real quick.

anyway, yes your character view is akward at first, something that takes about an hour to get over.  while run and jump animations are anything but realistic, were talking about a major non factor to a game being fun or not.

It has to be said that this is simply not true, not by any stretch of the imagination, in fact Firefall is superior to Defiance when it comes to both movement and shooting mechanics which are the most important things when it comes to shooters.

I disagree.  Defiance is very light on being a shooter anyway...the system it has does work once you get use to its akward view, works quite well.  Firefall i feel is hopeless at this point, that game will forever to be in beta with a total lack of content, something defiance doesnt seem to have.

 

either way, firefall forums for firefall ads please.  this is the defiance froums in case you didnt notice.  the two games have only aim combat in common, nothing else.

  YolliBox

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3/24/13 10:18:14 AM#54

If you are looking for a console clone PC game!
That seems to just do a cash grab on the PC side.
With No settings for F.O.V (Motion sickness will hit you:)
No first person view setting.
No in depth PC graphics settings.
Forced to use an console user interface (UI) That is not
designed for the PC market.And with no "PC love" whatsoever from Trion.

Then this game is for you! ;)

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  RolleZ

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3/24/13 10:33:06 AM#55

Played for 10 minutes and got motionsick thanks to the zoomed in low field of view. Last game that was so sloppy with narrow FOV was Mass Effect 3. Atleast there you can hack the settings to fix that.

Alpha/beta testing feedback? Trion DOES NOT CARE whatsoever. Got an issue with the game? good luck with that...

  faxnadu

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3/24/13 10:36:39 AM#56
Originally posted by mindw0rk

Short answer - I liked it. Game looks simple, but for some strange reason I had fun playing it. Can log in, shoot some mutants for few mins, do few tasks, log out. 

I also think you might find more gold bars in garbage can, then "landmark revolution" in Defiance

these are my toughts aswell, been there allthe way thro alpha aswell and im still the same. 

  Kuinn

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3/24/13 11:36:03 AM#57
Originally posted by BrownAle

either way, firefall forums for firefall ads please.  this is the defiance froums in case you didnt notice.  the two games have only aim combat in common, nothing else.

 

Actually it's completely fine to compare two games that are more or less similar with eachothers, especially if you're trying to explain some shortcomings or excellences of a game.

  SlothnChunk

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3/24/13 12:08:20 PM#58
Downloaded the beta for the Xbox Thursday and spent several hours yesterday playing it. It's a lot of fun and I ordered it today.
  arieste

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3/24/13 2:03:27 PM#59

I liked it.  I wouldn't consider it any kind of revolution or breakthrough and it's certianly not nearl as good as TR was (at least on first experience).  

 

Good Stuff:

The graphics are great, good animations, beautiful settings, etc. 

Driving is really fun and there are even race tracks!  Cool.

Story and voiceovers are decent.  not great, but not terrible either.

stuff is easy to find and easy to learn.

The game's PvE focus is nice and it's cool to just jump into action with other people killing mobs.

 

Needs Improvement:

Skills and Abilities.. coming from an MMORPG backgroud, i want there to be more special ability buttons to push.  

All the upgrades just add X% to such and such stance.. don't seem to change the way you play much.  I'm still very early in though.

 

Bad:

UI - ui is frackin terrible as mentioned.  It's not so annoying to run around and do combat, for that it's ok, but for anything else - inventory, options, etc, it's bad.

Music - yikes.

Ammo - maybe it's just me, but i am highly annoyed by the "click to recharge ammo" thing.  Maybe i'm just used to having to buy or carry inventory of ammo.   Or just having unlimited ammo automatically.  I would much prefer some kind of "weapon cooldown" mechanic if you only want me to be able to fire off 40 shots or whatever.

 

I've only played for a few hours so far, so obviously i don't know everything about the game.  But those ar emy first impressions.

 

I"m looking forward to playing it on launch.

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  Siveria

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3/24/13 2:07:13 PM#60
Game is bascally a dumbed down neutrered version of borderlands. So I didn't think much of it myself.

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