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  Mtibbs1989

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3/23/13 5:03:13 PM#41
Originally posted by Redcor
Logged in , checked it out, logged out, uninstalled. This might have been a decent game if it was released 10 years ago. Looks and feels really old in every aspect. Not like a new game at all. Been a disapointing beta weekend with this and Defiance both missing the mark in my opinion.

 What game these days do you consider on the mark? TERA? Failed for having no content. Secret World online, Failed for having no content. Age of Conan, failed for having no content. Guild Wars 2, failed for having no content. What's the difference with other games and this one? Nothing at all, it's all in your mind and if you believe only 5-10 minutes worth of play time equals a good review of the game you're quite mistaken.

 But who knows, I know you won't from the short inspection you gave it. I believe the graphics are quite good for the art style it's going for. It's not TERA in a sense of top of the line graphics but it's not a bland game in any sense. In addition to your remark of a game 10 years ago, you had stuff like EQ and DAOC. I think you're a bit out of the loop of how little quality MMO's back then actually had. Here are a few screen shots just to clarify 10 years ago:

Ultima Online

 

Everquest

 

Dark Age of Camelot

 

Neverwinter

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To those old games. That's a complete difference in detail


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  DeniZg

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3/23/13 5:04:56 PM#42

If a game can be played with other players in a persisent world, than it is indeed an MMO.

On a sidenote, NWO does fell a lot like SWTOR, beacause of instancing and very similar map design (canyons, invisible walls etc.) Still, loading screens are much quicker and combat is way more engaging.

Adding to previous post, here's a screenshot from GW2. NWO is not too far behind on scenery.

  ElRenmazuo

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3/23/13 5:21:16 PM#43
Originally posted by DeniZg

If a game can be played with other players in a persisent world, than it is indeed an MMO.

On a sidenote, NWO does fell a lot like SWTOR, beacause of instancing and very similar map design (canyons, invisible walls etc.) Still, loading screens are much quicker and combat is way more engaging.

Adding to previous post, here's a screenshot from GW2. NWO is not too far behind on scenery.

the enclave is like one block of the GW2s city lol

https://33.media.tumblr.com/262c40940b3181ade1001120dd379aaa/tumblr_nfrzn853rR1rz64nto6_r1_400.gif

  ElRenmazuo

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3/23/13 5:24:53 PM#44

For those who keep saying this is not an mmorpg well thats wrong because it is.

Massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) (MUH'-mor-PUH-guh) is a genre of role-playing video games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual game world.

As in all RPGs, players assume the role of a character (often in a fantasy world) and take control over many of that character's actions. MMORPGs are distinguished from single-player or small multi-player online RPGs by the number of players, and by the game's persistent world (usually hosted by the game's publisher), which continues to exist and evolve while the player is offline and away from the game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game

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  Torvaldr

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3/23/13 5:33:56 PM#45
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

It feels more like a Diablo clone, or GW1 and DDO, its instanced, its online, but not an MMO since there are no real open zones.

There are many games like this, it does not necessarily make them bad games, but it does not make them MMOs either, can we have a sepperate name for these online rpgs or action rpgs.

Wow, I really didn't expect you to post this thread.  Are you really going with the zone size argument?  So EQ2 is an mmo because it has big zones, but Neverwinter isn't because their zones are smaller.  They have the exact same zone system.  D&D:N zones are public from the very first point you enter the game.  There are private instances but I'm sure you're not going to go down that road.

Stop trying to shove the genre in a pre-conceived box.  The game is an mmo, it's just not what you want your mmo to be.  You might even like the game, and I get where you're coming from, but you're way out there with this one.

 

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  aesperus

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3/23/13 5:38:00 PM#46
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

It feels more like a Diablo clone, or GW1 and DDO, its instanced, its online, but not an MMO since there are no real open zones.

 

There are many games like this, it does not necessarily make them bad games, but it does not make them MMOs either, can we have a sepperate name for these online rpgs or action rpgs.

You do realize the name of the game is Dungeons & Dragons Neverwinter. I guess I just don't understand why people keep complaining that this game feels like DDO. Of course it does, it's a followup of that game. It's not WoW 2.0, it's DDO 2.0 with action combat.

  wordiz

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3/23/13 5:38:07 PM#47
Open zones are not what makes a MMO. Neverwinter is a MMO, it's just a NEVERWINTER MMO. I lol daily on people that pick at the art style that is a time honored tradition, or people that poke at instancing...they've obviously never played the older games and had unrealistic/uneducated expectations.

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  kjempff

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3/23/13 6:56:38 PM#48
Only based on havin played 3rd beta I would say Neverwinter has the best mmoRPg (notice emphasis on Role Playing) feeling I experienced since WoW in the beginning or Vanguard (~10years). It has the potential to fail horribly on a number of issues, but it feels good on the RP and immersive side.
  Theocritus

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3/23/13 7:04:04 PM#49
Originally posted by Margrave
I love Neverwinter. Many others do. If you don't sorry, but I'm going to keep playing this awesome free to play title. Remember how much it cost you..... nothing.

 I havent got a chance to play it yet, but from the early returns it sure sounds like many DONT like it.

  Asm0deus

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3/23/13 8:15:15 PM#50
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

It feels more like a Diablo clone, or GW1 and DDO, its instanced, its online, but not an MMO since there are no real open zones.

 

There are many games like this, it does not necessarily make them bad games, but it does not make them MMOs either, can we have a sepperate name for these online rpgs or action rpgs.

You do realize the name of the game is Dungeons & Dragons Neverwinter. I guess I just don't understand why people keep complaining that this game feels like DDO. Of course it does, it's a followup of that game. It's not WoW 2.0, it's DDO 2.0 with action combat.

Hell no, this is not in any shape or form DDO2. 

 

It has nothing what so ever in commun with DDO except the DND logo and even then Neverwinter doesn't deserve to have that IMO.

If you want to play A DND game you play DDO, if you want a boring rooting arcade style game with some DnD flavoring in the background (names and lore) you play Neverwinter.

 

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  Bookah

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3/23/13 8:39:45 PM#51
Originally posted by Thane
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

It feels more like a Diablo clone, or GW1 and DDO, its instanced, its online, but not an MMO since there are no real open zones.

 

There are many games like this, it does not necessarily make them bad games, but it does not make them MMOs either, can we have a sepperate name for these online rpgs or action rpgs.

worst argument ever. thx for the laugh tho.

they are still mmos even tho they instance their maps.

 

 

 

 

  Wickedjelly

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3/24/13 1:47:01 AM#52
Well, I'll say this much for you Bachus. You sure know how to reel them in time after time.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  User Deleted
3/24/13 5:23:19 AM#53
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Well, I'll say this much for you Bachus. You sure know how to reel them in time after time.

He is the God of drinking after all XD

  Dreamo84

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I actually still like MMORPGs

3/24/13 1:49:10 PM#54
And Cucumbers are not a fruit! Yes I know the reasons they technically are, but in the spirit of what actual fruit tastes like Cucumbers should be labeled as vegitables. We are doing serious harm to the Cucumber industry.

  Purutzil

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3/24/13 1:58:23 PM#55

Theres presistant world where you do quests.... yeah...

 

DnD style often entails instances with 'quests' and this is no exception. its how DnD is designed with, you know, dungeons. It has a lot of stuff away from others but thats how its meant to be, adventure like and having it out in the world limits what can be done with it and the ability to tell real good story. Its not just a lobby like other games though with nothing outside as you do go exploring the town districts fighting creatures around with other players. I can see MAYBE if you were arguing there was just a lobby (town) like DDO, but theres plenty of areas to go where you meet other random players as well.

  Xthos

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3/24/13 2:00:48 PM#56
I personally don't consider Diablo and GW1 mmos, I played them, and liked them, but not mmos imo.  They are more of a lobby rpg.
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