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News & Features Discussion  » [Preview] Defiance: A Hard Look at Trion’s Gamble

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3/22/13 2:11:38 PM#41

I agree with the above poster (metalguy23) ... It only took me about an hour to realise that this game is not worth my time.

I was sort of excited about this one thinking it would be fun open world shooter type game with some great boss fights etc ... but it just doesn't come close to what a good engrossing MMO should be.

Waiting on something new and fresh.


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3/22/13 2:21:00 PM#42
Lags like hell for me. Am I the only one?

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3/22/13 2:24:57 PM#43
The game really doesn't have any staying power, after playing for a bit it really leaves a lot to be desired. I think Trion is doing a decent job on it but I am not sure what is happening on the back end of this but at this moment I can't justify paying $60 for this as I would get more out of playing a regular shooter.

Originally posted by salsa41
are you have problem ?



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3/22/13 2:34:06 PM#44
Originally posted by metalguy23

Game is terrible just spent about 4 hours playing and I shook my head the whole time, everything from the gun sounds to the bad AI mob sounds no environment sounds at all. Just really bad game, felt like it was made from a small amateur dev which is surprising. I don't know I need more excitement in a third person shooter type of game. Quests are horribly boring, voices, sounds just not well made, graphics are okay though not bad not great. Oh and UI is terrible how do you exit the game I had to alt tab in windows 8 and quit the process lol. I'm sorry I liked Rift and I do wish Trion the best but I don't like it so not spending the money on this one. Oh well back to single player games I guess. Waiting for something game changing and exciting.

This is interesting as i thought the very same about the sounds (esp. the weapons lacking the right "kick") and the total absence of overall ambiente.

Overall, the game not even remotely touches the quality work Trion showed with Rift at it's release. It looks and feels like a b-grade 2005 title from a semi-indie studio. And in everything in which it tries to imitate Borderlands, the original is better by a far margin.

If it wasn't attached to a tv-show as a gimmick, which makes people curious by nature, i'm shure no one would give a hoot about Defiance.




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3/22/13 2:53:56 PM#45
Originally posted by Reizla

Just played the beta for 45 minutes. Well, PLAYED..? I watched 30 minutes of movies and actually played for about 15 minutes and I gotta say that Defiance does look very good. But as a game I think it sucks big time. Why? The 15 minutes I played I felt totally railroaded (themepark comes to mind) and Defiance tries to mix & match MMO play with 3rd person shooter. Not gonna work I think and I fear that this game won't be a great hit. Only reason it might have 2M boxed sales is that it's Buy2Play, but I fear it'll go the same way as GW2 - lots of hype at start buy quickly put aside...

The only reason Defiance may reach the 2mio boxes mark is because it's getting released on 3 platforms. Taken this into consideration, 2mio would be pretty weak.

But this may always remain speculation, as we know Trion: You will eventually see some sort of a "1mio characters" announcement and not being told about further or solid, PR-free numbers.


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3/22/13 3:19:55 PM#46

This game is goign to fail for and only one reason, this game feels like a single player game because the chat is so horribly bad on PC version that you don't even know if someone standing in front of oyu is talk to you or not.

Porting and using crappy console ui on PC game is sign of doom on your game. Want it or not Console will not be the main base for this game it will be PC. And since pc player playing past the first month if that far, this game is just going to be a total failure.

They should have learned from DCUO, the PC game failed misreably because ui and chat was so horrific at launch. If these guy think the console version is going to sell more then pc one they are in for a rude awakeing. the pc version will barely sell and it will still sell more then all console combined. 

So ya good luck with that, content and gameplay is not enough to keep people playing in this game. The skill are boring and useless, there is no different class so there is no real point to play once you reached capped or near cap.

This game desiginers "SUCK", as lord british would categorize them (But then again lord british sucks too so go figure)


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3/22/13 3:26:36 PM#47
Have played about three hours now. Having a lot of fun. Did switch to pandora music. Only a few issues so far: no way to take/track multiple missions (means a lot of running back and forth), getting a snipe off after first shot is rough (all shots on you interupt and break zoom), and chat just seems broke (no way to tell if it is local or map or turn off profanity filter).

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3/22/13 3:27:44 PM#48

a mmo that isnt a WoW copy? EVERYONE GO BESERK AND SPEW HATE!



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3/22/13 3:29:31 PM#49
Ever since Tabula Rasa had its untimely death ive been looking for a good 3rd person shooter MMO with as much depth and story. None have really even touched Tabula Rasa in those regards except Defiance. Been having alot of fun in this game (alpha and beta) and i cant wait for release!

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3/22/13 3:32:53 PM#50
Originally posted by spawn12345

a mmo that isnt a WoW copy? EVERYONE GO BESERK AND SPEW HATE!


Not copying WoW doesn't make your game automatically good.

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."


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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

3/22/13 3:33:41 PM#51

II can honestly say the first beta weekend was a mess with the constant disconects that we all got.  The game was unplayable.  The second beta even it was put the nail in the coffin for me.  The UI out right sucks, end of story. If you are playing on the pc, Bill is right you will hate this game.  In fact on the beta forums there were several threads complaining about the UI.

I will more than likely watch the new show, but with everything that syfy network touches, it will be dead in a couple of years.  I also expect this game will have the numbers that DCUO has, and I will say this I hatd that UI as well, but I like it a lot better than the definace ui. 

What can I say about trion yes total let down. 



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3/22/13 3:39:05 PM#52
Originally posted by erictlewis

II can honestly say the first beta weekend was a mess with the constant disconects that we all got.  The game was unplayable.  The second beta even it was put the nail in the coffin for me.  The UI out right sucks, end of story. If you are playing on the pc, Bill is right you will hate this game.  In fact on the beta forums there were several threads complaining about the UI.

I will more than likely watch the new show, but with everything that syfy network touches, it will be dead in a couple of years.  I also expect this game will have the numbers that DCUO has, and I will say this I hatd that UI as well, but I like it a lot better than the definace ui. 

What can I say about trion yes total let down. 



Yup. And especially at the full $60 box price. I would say wait until the Steam sale in the summer and pay $10, but by then, no one will be playing this thing.

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3/22/13 3:47:12 PM#53
Originally posted by spawn12345

a mmo that isnt a WoW copy? EVERYONE GO BESERK AND SPEW HATE!


so true, maybe if Defiance was a card game...LOL!


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3/22/13 4:06:59 PM#54

Tabula Rasa was actually an engaging and interesting game, that only had a badly coded engine and some bad choices in it's design. I actually had fun at first in it and though to myself "damn this can be a great game and it looks nice too". Unfortunately it didn't do well which is a shame because it had a really nice Sci Fi feel to it. Oh well. Sorry but Defiance is nothing but a cash grab it's not going to do well. I wish them well and hope things change since I thought Rift was a very well done game just not my type of game anymore but it's a nice game. Oh well we will see, not really too excited about it. Gameplay is meh, graphics are nice though but sounds, animations and ambiance is way off.  



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3/22/13 4:10:37 PM#55
If the show is like the game trailer= ill give it a shot. but so far iam not thrilled wiht their main actors.

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3/22/13 4:33:46 PM#56
Ive played 1.5 hours in beta and actually enjoyed it. It wont be my main MMO and Im not sure Ill even buy it. But shooting mutants and doing missions didnt bore me at all which is surprising (considering I hated both RIFT from same devs and PS2 that is same type of game)

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3/22/13 5:01:48 PM#57
Im active my account on trion site but i dont have any email with downloading game. anyone can put link here? thank

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3/22/13 5:23:28 PM#58

I know Trion said that this weekend's test is a beta version and not the full retail game.  All I can say the full retail game will have to be much, much better in all areas on th PC if they want us to stay  with it.

Some things that I seen that gave me heartach in the PC version.

Opening cut scene, the earth ship looks like they were modeling it on Marcross from Robotech.

Major lack of char design choices.  One  is no choice on how the hair looks, both style and color.

Way PC mouse is set up in game makes it very had if not impossible to click on anything else but movement in the game screen mode.

Could not find an exit button on game screen.  Had to go through four ESC screens to find it so I could leave the game.

I find it next to impossible to get to the skill select screen to see/chose skills when I get the skill level up notice.

Yes the music so far stands to be much improved.  So far the in game music dose not seem to fit the mood of the game.

Lastly I find it a problem that there is not auto-run button.



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wtf was that?!

3/22/13 7:05:05 PM#59
Do not buy this shit. It will be free to play or dead in less then 6 months. With the exception of the main story line wich is not a good story you will spend 95% of the time doing the blandest fetch/kill quests mowing down  the same 10 npcs over and over. If you are intrested in the game and must try it please try the beta first. There are way to many good games out there that deserve your time and money over this pile of poop.

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3/22/13 7:17:31 PM#60
Looks ok, but no collision or real driving physics from what the video shows, really what a waste?

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