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  BadOrb

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3/21/13 2:17:12 PM#21
Originally posted by Rayzer235

I'll just leave this here

 

"Originally Posted by Jeff Hickman, November 2009:

Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning has had a solid first year despite some issues that we're working to address every day. We've seen a great response to 1.3.2, which introduced tremendous performance improvements. A flood of new players are discovering the game every day thanks to the recently released Endless Trial and New User Journey. Moving forward we remain committed to releasing more great patches, continued performance improvements, and changes based upon your valuable feedback!"

 

A flood isn't 2 mil + or thousands every day or is it ?

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  User Deleted
3/21/13 2:29:53 PM#22
Originally posted by Czanrei
If you have any doubts as to the sad state of SWTOR right now, go look at their new 'Covert Energy Boots' on the Cartel Market BW added recently. They are "invisible" so your character appears to be barefoot. I repeat, they are charging RL money for "invisible" boots. Wow, just wow...

This right here is comedy gold. Perhaps they're like the emperor's new clothes, and you need to be deemed a worthy person to see them?

I suppose it doesn't matter though. SWTOR is more cash shop now than game, twisted and greedy.

  Benbrada

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3/21/13 2:38:20 PM#23
Originally posted by BadOrb

It's really positive that over 2 mil new accounts have been created over 4 months , which ever way you look at it. I noticed some of the SWTOR hate is still here at MMORPG.com spreading missinformation again. It is a freemium game and you don't have to spend money upfront , the game is free to download and play and if you spend $4.99 you aren't restricted by much at all , 4 quick bars ( the same as subs had for 8 months ) and 6 character slots. As someone else stated you can buy all the unlocks and perks etc off the GTN for in-game credits.

Barber shop , that's ok I guess , I would have lked them to include a voice change , where you change the pitch of your voice slightly , no smurf voices. You can do this without loosing the length of a voiced word or statement , so as not to ruin the timing within the game for convos. 

Anyways seems healthier than it was 5 months ago.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

 

AGREED! There are a lot of peeps running around at every hour of the day and PUGs for Heroics and Flashpoints seem pretty easy to find without a Group Finder IMHO. I've been having Empire side fun.

 

  ignore_me

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3/21/13 3:25:02 PM#24
Originally posted by DalekThay
Originally posted by Czanrei
If you have any doubts as to the sad state of SWTOR right now, go look at their new 'Covert Energy Boots' on the Cartel Market BW added recently. They are "invisible" so your character appears to be barefoot. I repeat, they are charging RL money for "invisible" boots. Wow, just wow...

This right here is comedy gold. Perhaps they're like the emperor's new clothes, and you need to be deemed a worthy person to see them?

I suppose it doesn't matter though. SWTOR is more cash shop now than game, twisted and greedy.

Don't forget that you can get a toothpick now to have hanging from your lip while you go barefoot. I guess Jigglebilly was a character from Star Wars and I didn't know it!

"C'mon everybody, commence to jigglin"

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  hikaru77

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3/21/13 3:37:19 PM#25
Originally posted by BadOrb

It's really positive that over 2 mil new accounts have been created over 4 months , which ever way you look at it. I noticed some of the SWTOR hate is still here at MMORPG.com spreading missinformation again. It is a freemium game and you don't have to spend money upfront , the game is free to download and play and if you spend $4.99 you aren't restricted by much at all , 4 quick bars ( the same as subs had for 8 months ) and 6 character slots. As someone else stated you can buy all the unlocks and perks etc off the GTN for in-game credits.

Barber shop , that's ok I guess , I would have lked them to include a voice change , where you change the pitch of your voice slightly , no smurf voices. You can do this without loosing the length of a voiced word or statement , so as not to ruin the timing within the game for convos. 

Anyways seems healthier than it was 5 months ago.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

 

The hate towards swtor will never stop, is not a game for everyone but is a good MMO and they have really a lot of people playing it. 5 months after the F2P model, and they have all the servers at primetime veryheavy or full, and the expansion will bring a lot of people back. The problem is the people who was talking about the death of swtor, never happened and it wont happen anytime soon, some people just cant live with that. 

  Jonoku

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3/21/13 4:13:59 PM#26
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

And I’m happy to announce that we’ll be introducing several new features along the way, like a new customization feature, which will allow you to change your character's hair style, eye color, body type, or even species (including the upcoming Cathar!) using Cartel Coins. Look for it in early summer.

 

Get ready for 1 million cathar running around everywhere. ;)

Can't speak for everyone man, I don't care for cathar.

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  Beyorn

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Joined: 10/27/08
Posts: 235

3/21/13 4:48:20 PM#27
I'm going to be able to look like a bug!!!!!  Or a chicken!!!
  Mardukk

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3/21/13 4:53:22 PM#28
Man...what I would give for an immersive Stars Wars Universe to explore.  Everyone on this site seems to love cartoon fantasy but the few of us that like dark sci fi (BladeRunner/Star Wars) are stuck with this game...ugh.
  Skuz

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"If you can''t laugh at yourself there''s always someone around to show you how it''s done!"

3/21/13 5:00:26 PM#29
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Vorthanion
OMG......every single update so far has been centered around that damn cash shop.  I've yet to see a significant update that wasn't at least 90% about the cash shop.  What's even more insulting is that they still haven't addressed the majority of the "Core" game issues he alluded to in the address.

The Cartel Market is 90% about Cosmetic stuff and 10% about unlocks for the F2P players and Xp boosters, but certainly you´re not playing the game. 

Indeed, and since subscribers get a cartel coin allowance every month anyway it's going to depend on how affordable those customizations are, but it is a perfectly reasonable system to have "cosmetic" features make up the bulk of the cash shop, there's no real "pay to win" in it & the devs seem to be quite strongly stating that's how they wish to stick with things.

 

Provided the cathar are relatively inexpensive I think the cartel coin stipend subs get each month will cover it nicely. I personally prefer to use my bonus cc on legacy unlocks & character perks anyway so extra options like this provide a nice way to use them to tailor the game to my personal taste more, albeit gradually.

  Skuz

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"If you can''t laugh at yourself there''s always someone around to show you how it''s done!"

3/21/13 5:04:25 PM#30
Originally posted by DalekThay
Originally posted by Czanrei
If you have any doubts as to the sad state of SWTOR right now, go look at their new 'Covert Energy Boots' on the Cartel Market BW added recently. They are "invisible" so your character appears to be barefoot. I repeat, they are charging RL money for "invisible" boots. Wow, just wow...

This right here is comedy gold. Perhaps they're like the emperor's new clothes, and you need to be deemed a worthy person to see them?

I suppose it doesn't matter though. SWTOR is more cash shop now than game, twisted and greedy.

The game had "Slave-girl" outfits which were very revealing, players have been asking for the ability to have a male equivalent & that's why "invisible" gear was introduced, so players could have parity & have "slave boys" as well as "Slave girls" in looks.

The comedy you highlight is real enough & I did find it funny, just wanted to put it into context.

  Skuz

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"If you can''t laugh at yourself there''s always someone around to show you how it''s done!"

3/21/13 5:06:33 PM#31
Originally posted by Mardukk
Man...what I would give for an immersive Stars Wars Universe to explore.  Everyone on this site seems to love cartoon fantasy but the few of us that like dark sci fi (BladeRunner/Star Wars) are stuck with this game...ugh.

Star Wars wasn't really ever a contender for "Dark Sci-Fi" though, its got quite a lot of humour to it - something I think the game's stories did in fact miss out on.

  Slappy1

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3/21/13 5:07:16 PM#32
Originally posted by Rayzer235

I'll just leave this here

 

"Originally Posted by Jeff Hickman, November 2009:

Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning has had a solid first year despite some issues that we're working to address every day. We've seen a great response to 1.3.2, which introduced tremendous performance improvements. A flood of new players are discovering the game every day thanks to the recently released Endless Trial and New User Journey. Moving forward we remain committed to releasing more great patches, continued performance improvements, and changes based upon your valuable feedback!"

The differance here would be the Cartel shop and the fact people are paying around $70 or so for a crate of Cartel pack's (many people have admitted to buying these) and that doesn't count the other offering's on the shop.Such as inventory upgrade's/race unlock's and so on.

War only had new sub's to look for,Swtor is in another league.I would guess that the Cartel shop sale's are outperforming sub's at this point.

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  BadOrb

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3/21/13 5:08:32 PM#33
Originally posted by Mardukk
Man...what I would give for an immersive Stars Wars Universe to explore.  Everyone on this site seems to love cartoon fantasy but the few of us that like dark sci fi (BladeRunner/Star Wars) are stuck with this game...ugh.
 

I believe that SWTOR is darker than EP 1 , 4 , 5, 6 maybe even than EP 2 , obviously ep 3 had some very dark moments in it. Try the Imperial agent story or bounty hunter or a sith , especially the IA it is very dark. I don't really want to get into a battle about what's darker than what really but the game is dark.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

 

PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing.
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  Doogiehowser

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3/21/13 5:11:29 PM#34
Originally posted by Mardukk
Man...what I would give for an immersive Stars Wars Universe to explore.  Everyone on this site seems to love cartoon fantasy but the few of us that like dark sci fi (BladeRunner/Star Wars) are stuck with this game...ugh.

Well when somone is mad enough to cater to 'few of you' i think you won't be stuck anymore. But that someone has to be really really high to invest his money into something like that.

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  Tierless

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joie de vivre

3/21/13 5:17:53 PM#35


Originally posted by Doogiehowser
And I’m happy to announce that we’ll be introducing several new features along the way, like a new customization feature, which will allow you to change your character's hair style, eye color, body type, or even species (including the upcoming Cathar!) using Cartel Coins. Look for it in early summer.

 

Get ready for 1 million cathar running around everywhere. ;)



Oh man! I remember a 16 page post asking for this in Beta 1...that they ignored. Too little too late.

mmorpg.com/blogs/Xobdnas

  jesteralways

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3/21/13 5:18:15 PM#36
Originally posted by Celcius
Originally posted by jesteralways
i can get behind their FP,Ops and WZ restrictions for f2p, i completely understand the cash limit, chat restrictions and plenty other restrictions which are same as any other freemium games present in the market but i can not understand how on earth they even cooked up the idea of monetizing quick bar or title\legacy name hide\show or head slot item show\hide. some f2p games out there even give players 8 quick bars to play with, there are some f2p games where title gives stats and they allow  players to show\hide title; of course they sell the best titles in cash shop but they never ask to pay to show title a player has earned., legacy is just another title; same words go for it and hide/show head slot,: as long as i can remember it had always been an standard UI option for any mmorpg but BW is asking money for it. i don't really get it, how did they even think it would be alright? and on top of that f2p and preferred can't accept some quest reward; mainly those rewards that gives lockboxes as reward(crew missions are exception). i understand that BW have to provide something extra to subscribed users but if these restrictions were not in place would it really belittle subscribed users? and i can't honestly see it being a good marketting strategy, since when inconvenience is the best way to market products? i am not going to cry that i pre ordered CE, paid 4 month sub and when f2p came i get the same treatment as a person who just spend 4.99$ in game, but this really is not a healthy marketting strategy. 

I can't get behind any of their F2P restrictions. There are games out there that prove you don't have to screw over your customers. Tera being the latest example. Tera doesn't restrict anything except the amount of auctions you can have up on a character. Not to mention that Tera you can play for free without paying up front as well. TSW is another example of this. EA/Bioware has no excuse honestly. I think Tera and TSW are both garbage, but I am sure there are just as many people who think SWTOR is as well. The fact is that these other games exist so SWTOR has no excuse. 

why are you bringing up TERA? let's go back even further, AION NA; truly free model from ncsoft, i think in this site i found a link to their financial report of q3(or q2) 2012, apparently AION NA earned 200million$ that time. without any restrictions(except for character slot) to f2p, providing subscribers with more exp gain, a little more abyss point gain and reduced dungeon cool down they are earning that much. it proves that without any kind of restriction to f2p, an f2p game can make huge profit. but still i can understand some of the restrictions BW put up but the rest are just really bad marketting. i hope they totally remove those UI restrictions, they are just realy ugly to read in restrictions description.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  FromHell

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3/21/13 5:35:25 PM#37
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Mardukk
Man...what I would give for an immersive Stars Wars Universe to explore.

we had an immersive Star Wars universe, but instead of making a sequel they trashed it and gave us SWTOR.

 

something to remember

http://youtu.be/Zdqxid-oCGU?t=1m57s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-adBTVgbVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwxONQEQWyE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5VFTvAkcQ&feature=share&list=PL01F183CBEAF3678F

 

 

what we have now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUdZn5v5sEU

 

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Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
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  strangiato2112

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Joined: 9/21/12
Posts: 1566

3/21/13 5:56:51 PM#38
Originally posted by jesteralways

why are you bringing up TERA? let's go back even further, AION NA; truly free model from ncsoft, i think in this site i found a link to their financial report of q3(or q2) 2012, apparently AION NA earned 200million$ that time. without any restrictions(except for character slot) to f2p, providing subscribers with more exp gain, a little more abyss point gain and reduced dungeon cool down they are earning that much. it proves that without any kind of restriction to f2p, an f2p game can make huge profit. but still i can understand some of the restrictions BW put up but the rest are just really bad marketting. i hope they totally remove those UI restrictions, they are just realy ugly to read in restrictions description.

AION NA has a grand total of 5 servers.  Lets be extremely generous and say they are 5 very large servers and there was a total population of 200,000 (which is absolutely absurd for just 5 servers).  You are saying 200,000 players gave an average of 1,000 dollars each?  

 

Aion worldwide might have made 200 million because of Korea.  NCSoft might have made 200 million q3 2012 because of GW2 sales.  but AION NA masde nowhere close to that.

  red_cruiser

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Posts: 457

3/21/13 5:59:33 PM#39
SWTOR is all the proof people need to justify Richard Garriott's statement of "Most game designers just suck.".
  Lexin

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3/21/13 6:05:51 PM#40
Against my better judgement I tried this a few months back and played for a couple hours before I just could not take playing such a horrible game anymore.

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