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  nbtscan

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3/13/13 11:06:22 AM#21

I thought the Holy Grail was a mythical item.

I never played DAoC personally, but I'm sure the people who did liked it a lot and are looking for a modernized version of it.  However, isn't it a bit early to judge something that's still an idea and not even in development?

  taurak

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OP  3/21/13 7:58:11 AM#22

Yeah I know its a bit early to say all this stuff, but I am hopeing, HOPEING, that they see that instances are one of the main parts that made warhammer online fail.

 

I know DAoC had PvE as well yes, and PvE is not a bad thing to have in games like this. Raids are fun too, but it sucks to see how many MMORPG's have pushed aside PvP, and also pushed aside the major things that make a MMORPG a MMORPG.

 

Like I said, games like WoW, you can play that game from lvl 1-90, and not make a single friend. That is HORRIBLE in my oppinion.

 

Your reputation on a server should be important to you, and with everyone jumping into the first available instance, with players on a different server than yourself... Who cares if you ninja loot that item from so and so, and be very rude to everyone in your group, they aren't on your server, and chances are you'll never see them again.

 

Guilds don't even interract with eachother on a server anymore unless its just to brag abotu killing easymode bosses and showing off lame loot, that looks worse in every expansion. (yes still talkign wow sorry)

 

The community needs to come back to massively multiplayer online roleplaying games... Joining an instance with randoms does not promote community. I have high hopes that this will happen in this game.

 

 

  sweetdigs

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3/21/13 2:03:51 PM#23

This is definitely not the holy grail of MMOs.  And it shouldn't be.  It should be the holy grail of PVP/RVR MMOs, though! 

  Eir_S

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3/21/13 2:07:04 PM#24
Originally posted by oubers

All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

  Torvaldr

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3/21/13 2:10:19 PM#25
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by oubers

All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

I can't wait for the fallout.  The game is being developed on an indie budget.  The expectations are insanely high.  What could go wrong?

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  sweetdigs

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3/21/13 2:11:05 PM#26
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by oubers

All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

Gameplay vids?  Oh, we're a LONG ways from those.  All the excitement around here is simply based on the founding principles for the game and the people that will be responsible for its development.

Sure, some of us are setting ourselves up for potential disappointment.  But so what?  If you don't get excited about anything, you might as well quit living.

  cinos

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3/21/13 2:12:47 PM#27
The cycle starts again...
  Plastic-Metal

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3/21/13 2:24:17 PM#28
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by oubers

All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

I can't wait for the fallout.  The game is being developed on an indie budget.  The expectations are insanely high.  What could go wrong?

 

As someone that's followed Mark Jacob's development history, which is to say that I am not a fanboi, but Dark Age of Camelot was slated as a title that couldn't be produced by a freshly created studio, Mythic Entertainment. The studio was a talented, but slightly inexperienced MMO team.  The founders of Mythic, primarily Mark's financial prowess, overcame the hurdle of development via the indie budget as well as the individual troublesome milestones.  Obviously, Mark wasn't the only person responsible for it's success.

That's not to say that DAoC or Mythic came out smelling like roses via the popular opinion, but it defied the odds.  I believe that Mark can do it again through a different medium.  Plus, the removal of PvE content allows more focus on RvR and the meta game.

 

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  Kaneth

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3/21/13 2:31:59 PM#29
Originally posted by Plastic-Metal
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by oubers

All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

I can't wait for the fallout.  The game is being developed on an indie budget.  The expectations are insanely high.  What could go wrong?

 

As someone that's followed Mark Jacob's development history, which is to say that I am not a fanboi, but Dark Age of Camelot was slated as a title that couldn't be produced by a freshly created studio, Mythic Entertainment. The studio was a talented, but slightly inexperienced MMO team.  The founders of Mythic, primarily Mark's financial prowess, overcame the hurdle of development via the indie budget as well as the individual troublesome milestones.  Obviously, Mark wasn't the only person responsible for it's success.

That's not to say that DAoC or Mythic came out smelling like roses via the popular opinion, but it defied the odds.  I believe that Mark can do it again through a different medium.  Plus, the removal of PvE content always more focus on RvR and the meta game.

 

DAoC was truly a neat experience when it first came out. The game had some good ideas, and delivered a good pvp experience that made sense to the masses. I still say that DAoC was the first game that brought PvP to the masses and showed that pvp with true meaning, can be popular. ToA is what killed DAoC for me, not that it wasn't without flaws, but that was the final nail in the coffin.

It'll be interesting to see what Mark and crew can do, but I also have no illusions that the game is going to meet everyone's expectations. If it delivers a more modern DAoC experience, while avoiding the pitfalls of DAoC, then I'll be happy.

The holy grail of gaming, simply put though, cannot ever be achieved, because you truly cannot please all people at once.

  Vorthanion

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3/21/13 2:37:26 PM#30
That'll be the day when a PvP only game is ever labeled and accepted as the Holy Grail of MMORPGs.  One of the biggest draws for DAoC was the PvE content and removing that half of the equation automatically disqualifies CU as a true successor to DAoC.

  dreamer05

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3/21/13 2:40:57 PM#31
After so many disspointments from getting my hopes up,  I will just say that I am extremely interested in where this game is going.  If it really is as good (or even close at this point) to DAoC I would gladly pay box and sub fee at any price.

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  Nadia

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3/21/13 2:44:55 PM#32
Originally posted by taurak

This will be one of the most anticipated titles in MMORPG history.

i wish the best for CU

but with no pve content, its an empty cup to me

  Nitth

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3/21/13 2:49:07 PM#33


Originally posted by taurak
This is the Holy Grail of MMORPG's

Why say shit like that, and hype it to levels that it could never realistically reach?


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  stayontarget

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3/21/13 2:49:31 PM#34
The Holy Grail is a mystical item that will never be found because it does not exist.  OP is correct, I guess you can label CU as that.

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  pantheron

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3/21/13 2:52:29 PM#35
I hate when people say shit like this. It just makes me hate a game, even if i had no opinion on it. I happen to likea lot of the games out there and coming out. heck im more excited about Dragon's Prophet than CU. if CU is the game that MMO's are going to aspire to be, games with no PvE, im out. see y'all. 

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3/21/13 2:58:16 PM#36
  Tuchaka

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3/21/13 3:01:33 PM#37
The hype for this game given that we have so few real details its a bit perplexing. So many games and MMO's in particular crash and burn yes i know many pvp's players are dying for a 3 faction game, but sorry to me its just not that big of a deal and ya i played DAOC , but a huge amount of other detials we don't have or the missmanagement that plagues many titles could make this game suck just like the majority of MMO releases do. I hope its a good game but given what we know so far....big deal.
  Tuktz

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3/21/13 3:09:11 PM#38

Well to be realistic you need a fair amount of hype to get the kind of kickstarter funding he's looking for. So of course that would already generate avid fans for a game that only exisits on paper at the moment lol.

 

To be fair though, if you've read the foundational principles, you'd know that this game is quite different from the majority of what's out there, and that what he's trying to do here is going to fit a particular niche that is craving something like this and nobody is delivering.

 

So I can't blame people that feel let down by every other themepark mmo not catering to what they really want, and then finding someone offering to make one that fits their particular niche. For many that the ideas of this game fit exactly with what they're looking for, it is absolutely amazing. 

 

WHereas if these features  aren't things you are a huge fan of, or think are missing from current mmos, I can understand that you'd be pretty skeptical.


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  DamonVile

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3/21/13 3:10:57 PM#39
Originally posted by stayontarget
The Holy Grail is a mystical item that will never be found because it does not exist.  OP is correct, I guess you can label CU as that.

The mystical part is that it actually has some type of power. I'm sure there was an actual cup at some point. Drinking from it now though would probably be a big disapointment :P

So people should probably hope this game isn't the "holy grial " of mmos...because if it is....well, you know....

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  bcbully

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3/21/13 3:19:49 PM#40

Come on sheeples, see a clip of the game first.  

 

I hope the game the best, just way too soon.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

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