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  jfoytek

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OP  3/21/13 9:43:59 AM#121
Originally posted by ignore_me
Theme Park (theem parrck) n: 1) An amusement park with a predominant theme such as "Disneyland." 2) An excuse to repeat one MMORPG design for decades.

ROFL I love it!

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  LanceC

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Posts: 55

3/21/13 9:46:08 AM#122
Don't get me wrong. I will end up getting it for the IP but most likely won't stay long due to the lack of what makes the IP good. Of course, this is my opinion. Just don't see this game being anything different from the stale genre. Instead of making a TES game around an MMO, they are making a MMO around a TES game. Sadly, their opinion of what makes a MMO is old, used up, and flaccid. 
  jfoytek

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Joined: 6/25/12
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OP  3/21/13 9:46:59 AM#123
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

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  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4665

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3/21/13 9:47:16 AM#124
Originally posted by ignore_me
Theme Park (theem parrck) n: 1) An amusement park with a predominant theme such as "Disneyland." 2) An excuse to repeat one MMORPG design for decades.

lol  Well, they're afraid if they try something new, it will bankrupt them. :p

  immodium

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Joined: 11/03/07
Posts: 1258

3/21/13 9:47:48 AM#125
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

They are not that interactive. TES game worlds are very restrictive.

Compared with what? ESO? You cannot honestly believe that the last few TES games are more restrictive than the average MMO aka ESO.

No, just in general.

TES game feel way more 'themeparky' than 'sandboxy' IMO. Like someone mentioned earlier, there's a thread for that discussion. TES feels as 'sandboxy' as GTA.

  ignore_me

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Joined: 7/04/11
Posts: 2034

3/21/13 9:50:11 AM#126
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by ignore_me
Theme Park (theem parrck) n: 1) An amusement park with a predominant theme such as "Disneyland." 2) An excuse to repeat one MMORPG design for decades.

lol  Well, they're afraid if they try something new, it will bankrupt them. :p

I just don't know why the MMORPG is stuck in some kind of a false dichotomy. Is there no other way to make these games? I agree with what youre saying, but they seem to fail so often anyway. Maybe that's why the kickstarter games are on the rise. I don't know.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3359

3/21/13 9:51:59 AM#127
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

  VrexFury

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Joined: 6/12/12
Posts: 3

3/21/13 9:56:31 AM#128
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

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  jfoytek

Novice Member

Joined: 6/25/12
Posts: 151

 
OP  3/21/13 9:56:42 AM#129
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

Every TES game allowed you to go everywhere on the map, where couldnt you go in a TES game???

 

I am upset because I dont want to be in an instanced zone with a few people, I want to be in the real 1 and only version of that zone with everyone thats in it friend or foe pvp flagged or not....  not 25 versions of the same zone with 3 people in each!!!

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  Dihoru

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Joined: 1/11/06
Posts: 2615

3/21/13 9:59:40 AM#130
I loved Skyrim and Oblivion and I will play TESO....on a private server when the emulator comes out.

  immodium

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Joined: 11/03/07
Posts: 1258

3/21/13 10:00:48 AM#131
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

Every TES game allowed you to go everywhere on the map, where couldnt you go in a TES game???

 

I am upset because I dont want to be in an instanced zone with a few people, I want to be in the real 1 and only version of that zone with everyone thats in it friend or foe pvp flagged or not....  not 25 versions of the same zone with 3 people in each!!!

Only EvE and TSW(?) had one server with everyone in the same world. At least with megaservers I can move to an instance where my friends are free of charge or without re-rolling a new character.

  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3359

3/21/13 10:02:19 AM#132
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

Every TES game allowed you to go everywhere on the map, where couldnt you go in a TES game???

 

I am upset because I dont want to be in an instanced zone with a few people, I want to be in the real 1 and only version of that zone with everyone thats in it friend or foe pvp flagged or not....  not 25 versions of the same zone with 3 people in each!!!

Nope, Morrowind, Skyrim, Oblivion etc each had their own maps. Buy Skyrim and you could not wander around the Oblivion maps. As for instanced zones... we have no clue how big they will be. Maybe they will be so big they support 400-800 players or maybe you have a right to be upset because they will be small and only support 40 players. We dont know. Before you get upset why dont we wait for some info first. 

  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3359

3/21/13 10:03:40 AM#133
Originally posted by VrexFury
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

Can we get like a Facebook button to click Like, cus I Like you :)

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  Dihoru

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Joined: 1/11/06
Posts: 2615

3/21/13 10:04:30 AM#134
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

Every TES game allowed you to go everywhere on the map, where couldnt you go in a TES game???

 

I am upset because I dont want to be in an instanced zone with a few people, I want to be in the real 1 and only version of that zone with everyone thats in it friend or foe pvp flagged or not....  not 25 versions of the same zone with 3 people in each!!!

Nope, Morrowind, Skyrim, Oblivion etc each had their own maps. Buy Skyrim and you could not wander around the Oblivion maps. As for instanced zones... we have no clue how big they will be. Maybe they will be so big they support 400-800 players or maybe you have a right to be upset because they will be small and only support 40 players. We dont know. Before you get upset why dont we wait for some info first. 

He was saying that you can go anywhere on the map at any time, he wasn't referring to going anywhere at anytime in the whole of Tamriel though I do hear rumours that a mega mod is being made for Skyrim to exploit the fact that Skyrim's map is technically limitless (so you can have the whole of Tamriel in it).

  SysFail

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Joined: 7/01/05
Posts: 377

3/21/13 10:08:07 AM#135
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

Every TES game allowed you to go everywhere on the map, where couldnt you go in a TES game???

 

I am upset because I dont want to be in an instanced zone with a few people, I want to be in the real 1 and only version of that zone with everyone thats in it friend or foe pvp flagged or not....  not 25 versions of the same zone with 3 people in each!!!

Only EvE and TSW(?) had one server with everyone in the same world. At least with megaservers I can move to an instance where my friends are free of charge or without re-rolling a new character.

Friends and clans would designate a server prior to launch.

  User Deleted
3/21/13 10:08:23 AM#136
Originally posted by jfoytek
Every TES game allowed you to go everywhere on the map, where couldnt you go in a TES game???

 

I am upset because I dont want to be in an instanced zone with a few people, I want to be in the real 1 and only version of that zone with everyone thats in it friend or foe pvp flagged or not....  not 25 versions of the same zone with 3 people in each!!!

 You couldnt go to Hammerfell in Skyrim.

You couldnt go to Morrowind in Daggerfall.

You couldnt visit Black Marsh in Oblivion.

The fact that they didn't put them on the map is irrelevant, you could only go to the places in the Elder Scrolls world that they wanted you to visit.

This game is putting all the worlds together and yet still gets complaints.

  Zzad

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/14/11
Posts: 1266

3/21/13 10:09:32 AM#137

FFS this same discussion over & over & over again?

Everytime a game is released...the same.A vocal minority asking to convert any game into a Sandbox.... and that will not happen! Not even Archeage is a real Sandbox... and you know why? Not enough gamers are interested in that,otherwise they would of have done it before. It´s a bussiness after all...

TESO is not a sandbox...just get over it,and chose a game that is,it´s that simple.

 

  jfoytek

Novice Member

Joined: 6/25/12
Posts: 151

 
OP  3/21/13 10:09:40 AM#138
Originally posted by Nanfoodle

Nope, Morrowind, Skyrim, Oblivion etc each had their own maps. Buy Skyrim and you could not wander around the Oblivion maps. As for instanced zones... we have no clue how big they will be. Maybe they will be so big they support 400-800 players or maybe you have a right to be upset because they will be small and only support 40 players. We dont know. Before you get upset why dont we wait for some info first. 

Huh,

    Uhm use a little common sense here....  I was talking about being able to go to all parts of the respective map of the respective game!!!!

 

and I am upset because they have clarified that its going to be our own PvE version of the map where the other guys cannot see you!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/view/forums/thread/379940/Clearing-up-the-new-Faction-Lock.html

And they are clueless touting this as a good thing!!!!

Screw special PvE zone where only your faction can see you give us there actual zone and allow them to see us!

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  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3359

3/21/13 10:11:58 AM#139
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by LanceC
From what I've heard TES and ESO will be so different that besides a few TES gimmicks it will play nothing like any TES game.  Seems shameful to call it part of TES.

Then you heard very wrong. Tell me what about ESO is not like TES?

Everything I've heard so far. Seems way to restrictive to be an elder scrolls game. What I loved from all TES games was the interactive world. ESO will be stage with props. While it looks like TES game ... it will be a elder scroll shell. Crack that shell and you'll see that it is the same MMO that  has flooded the market for the last few years.

Thats forum spew and no facts as to what makes this not a TES game. 

1 Has TES lore

2 Has TES combat

3 Has TES World and and art style

4 They had to have classes its a MMO, but it has TES freedom of making your powers and class do what you want. So much so its almost a sandbox class system

5 You can now explore anywhere on one char, by most here that seems to make it sandbox lol

6 lots of features to encurage and reward you for exploring. More then most MMOs do

Thats just to name a few. Only thing you cant do from TES game is play any race with any faction. ESO is themepark but that is far from fail. Bad games fail, good games do well thats all. 

Think about what they said about exploring the other area's, they only open when you reach 50 and complete all of the quests in your area....  And the content will be scaled to give you a harder challenge....

This about this.....  How is an area going to be harder for you?  But yet easy for them?  Because your not going to be in there zone your going to be in your own instanced version of there zone!!!

What TES game could you explore all the areas? None of them. This is a MMO and they are opening up the game so you can go anywhere and your upset because they are making 2/3 of the maps end game content? WHAT?!?!?!?!? You want to explore but kill grey mobs? As a MMO player you should be excited that not only you get to explore everywhere but the mobs will be worth fighting because it will take skill and you will be rewarded as the level you are. Matter of fact some of the best loot in the game will be earned this way. THATS A GOOD THING!!! (((eye roll)))

Every TES game allowed you to go everywhere on the map, where couldnt you go in a TES game???

 

I am upset because I dont want to be in an instanced zone with a few people, I want to be in the real 1 and only version of that zone with everyone thats in it friend or foe pvp flagged or not....  not 25 versions of the same zone with 3 people in each!!!

Nope, Morrowind, Skyrim, Oblivion etc each had their own maps. Buy Skyrim and you could not wander around the Oblivion maps. As for instanced zones... we have no clue how big they will be. Maybe they will be so big they support 400-800 players or maybe you have a right to be upset because they will be small and only support 40 players. We dont know. Before you get upset why dont we wait for some info first. 

He was saying that you can go anywhere on the map at any time, he wasn't referring to going anywhere at anytime in the whole of Tamriel though I do hear rumours that a mega mod is being made for Skyrim to exploit the fact that Skyrim's map is technically limitless (so you can have the whole of Tamriel in it).

If he was thats a little silly as this is a MMO. Content needs to scale as you level or its not worth doing. Even if they just opened up the maps and said, there you go, go anywhere. There would be so much content you would need to roll 6 chars to see it all if you didnt want to walk around doing grey quests killing grey mobs. With the ways its done now, a real gamer has a reason to go there other then being able to say. I seen it!!! Is that what we want from our games now? 2/3 of the map is end game content, this is a MMO, so thats awesome!!!!!! Thats already more elder game then most MMOs have at launch.

  SysFail

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Joined: 7/01/05
Posts: 377

3/21/13 10:12:26 AM#140
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by jfoytek
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by jfoytek

SWTOR at its peak has 1.7M subs its now below 1M over a 700K drop...  But yes thats still alot of subscriptions, minor problem the game costed over 400M to make meaning it hasnt turned a profit yet... and Runescapes 8.5M subscriptions at peak wont be touched by SWTOR anytime soon nor ever!

 

The $400 mil rumour is just that, a rumour. SWTOR probably still has about 1 mil subscribers, based on server loads and general activity. Each of those paying $15 a month.  That combined with the box sales and cash shop sales would have more than paid for the development costs by now.

SWG had less than 200k subscribers by the time they tried the NGE which everyone blames for the death of the game, but really the game was dying well before that.

Just face it, even the most popular sandbox - EVE - cannot compete with one of the most generic and bland themeparks - SWTOR.  Why would people throw money at that? When they can make something bland and generic with a good IP and get SWTOR numbers?

SWTOR is now free to play and they do not say if the remaining active subscriptions are paying so its very likely a large chunk of that remaining subscriber base is paying 0....  And no the 400M is not a rumor

And FYI it would take 1M Subs at 15 per month for 24 months to = 360M  So two years of Sub fee's at the 1M active sub level to break even

 1) It was a rumour. It has never been confirmed anywhere.

2) Most of the players are subscribing, the game is set up that way. If you don't subscribe at max level (which is still very active) then you end up paying more than a subscription.

3) They had about 2 mil to 1.7 mil subs for the first 6 months. Add the box fee on top. So yeah no.  

 

For the record, I don't play the game or have any interest in it. But if you think it is unprofitable you are incredibly delusional. Go log into the game, its free to look at how busy it is.

EA's shares took a 50% loss just after the release of SWTOR, coincidence or not?

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