I am not sure why people think its so great that we can go to other factions lands, because it sounds like 50's will be in their own zone.

The reason to go to another zone is to enjoy the content (which youwon't be able to do. Only whatever endgame stuff they make for that special zone).  I rather doubt there will be as many quests as there are in the nornal zones.

To play with friends. Okay you can play with other 50 lvl other-faction people, but what about up to 50? Nope.

You will get to explore, but will all the mobs just be raised to 50 or will it be an empty land, except for the 50 content?  If you want to see the lands as they actually are you will have to make an alt.

1-49 which is what a lot of people will be spending there time doing, will still have all the limitations.

"So rest your fears, you will be able to run around in Elder Scrolls Online with a first-person view."

Actually, my fear is that I won't be able to run around in third-person view....  as for the after 50 content, does that mean there will be a forced rush to endgame(level 50+) just to play the whole game, or is there enough that we will be kept busy just getting to 50 so that exploring other faction lands won't even be a concern until then?

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by Sovrath

This just made my day!!!

Another new announcement came from the team about exploring the whole world of the game. For a while, it sounded like you could only explore the faction that you had joined at the beginning of the game. So the Ebonhearts would only explore Skyrim and so on. This has now been changed. Players who complete all of the PvE in their zone will now get the chance to unlock another zone at Level 50. Therefore, Ebonheart players can explore the content of the Daggerfall Covenant or the Aldmeri Dominion at Level 50. Once you make the choice the entire zone opens up to your character to explore. Matt did say that the loot you will get in the other zones will be really good, and after finishing the 2nd, you unlock the third. When you unlock the third zone that will give some of the best loot in the game.

Hm good good.

 

Note: I never understood why people liked First Person. In Elder Scrolls I never played first person, only in those narrow dungeon parts when I play a sniper. Otheriwse 90% of the time I prefer 3rd person, because I see SO MUCH MORE. First person always kinda feels like a tunnel view.

I think it's more about immersion. I will admit that even in Morrowind I played 3rd person view "mostly". However, there were times when I felt that 1st person felt more right, felt like I was actually in the fight. Sometimes I would reload and redo an encounter just to try it in 1st person.

Originally posted by observer

@Sovrath, @Lokero:  Yes, i'm aware of this.  which is my point.  The fact that they didn't have this from the beginning is a bad sign.  It just shows that they wanted to stray away from what made the Elder Scrolls series great.   And the fact that this made news, along with open-world exploration, is just laughable.  It's just distracting from the other important information they could be releasing to it's fans.

well that feels like a very cynical view.

First of al "of course they didn't have it planned from the start". They even stated that. However, I think they saw the writing on the wall and wanted to make some concession. It's not perfect but I'm of the mind that sometimes both sides need to give a bit.

I would ask what it's distracting from? There are people talking about the Sorceror and people talking about crafting. I think they released all the info they intended to release. Since this has been a bone of contention for many people it really is "major news".

Again not perfect but I'll take it.

@Ryowulf: for me it's more about the feeling of having more of the world at my disposal. Since most of my playing is just exploring these worlds, it just makes the world more complete. How that world manifests itself isn't much of a concern. Or, more to the point, I don't care if I, as a dark elf, get to do a 1st level Altmeri quest just so long as I can do some sort of activity in the Altmer lands and see and experience what that part of the world is like.

Originally posted by drivendawn
I am very glad to see they are making the other areas accessible.

It's really hard to say what the end-game unlock content will be like at this stage as you are just getting hype fed to press events . Gaming journalists are just seeing the starting zone, and in quite a limited way. That's not to say ESO won't be good. We just won't see much untill ESO get nearer to a full large scale beta.

This is the first information about the game that I have read that I really dont like!

1rst Person view is great only portion of this info that I like!!!!

I was under the wrong impression that this game would have open world PvP???  Obviously according to this its a WoW clone!  I do not want to have to do all the quest lines etc to be able to go to another part of the MAP ultra lame!!!  Entire map should be open to me at level 1, no matter if its really perilous or not.... 

And I hate instances, it takes away from the sand box if joe schmo goes into an instance and I am not part of his group I cannot kill him he is safe from my wrath!!!  Not cool you should have no were to hide from a person in game everyone should have access to all the same area at all times!

So while Crafting sounds great this Info sounds too carebear!!!

Okay I am starting to understand this game has a huge flaw!!!!

The Mega Server is nothing more then Instancing!!!!  How can you have carebears and pvpers in the same zone if its one giant sandbox???  You cant because its not 1 giant sandbox persay its a bunch of instanced zones being repopulated for many different people!!!  meaning this is NOT a SANDBOX!!!  Which means this game just went from being way high on my I cant wait to play it list to right down the crapper!!!!

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by DavisFlight

So, seems they've gone back on the only redeeming feature of the game, public dungeons. Yay everything is phased and instanced!11! Wuts an mmo dur?

There are still public dungeons though it's unclear if they are for groups or not.

How the hell can youhave public dungens NOT for groups? It just shows how broken and divided the game design is. Matt wanted public dungens, publishers wanted instances. Public dungeons just DO NOT work in quest based linear themeparkgames.

Well if this is a Quest Based Linear Themepark I am out!

I want a Sandbox, non linear, non quest based game inside of the world of Tamriel....

Originally posted by jfoytek

I was under the wrong impression that this game would have open world PvP???  Obviously according to this its a WoW clone!  I do not want to have to do all the quest lines etc to be able to go to another part of the MAP ultra lame!!!  Entire map should be open to me at level 1, no matter if its really perilous or not.... 

 Umm, WoW has open world PvP and you can go to any part of the map at any time in WoW...would get your butt stomped but you CAN go there.

Originally posted by JasonJ

Originally posted by jfoytek

I was under the wrong impression that this game would have open world PvP???  Obviously according to this its a WoW clone!  I do not want to have to do all the quest lines etc to be able to go to another part of the MAP ultra lame!!!  Entire map should be open to me at level 1, no matter if its really perilous or not.... 

 Umm, WoW has open world PvP and you can go to any part of the map at any time in WoW...would get your butt stomped but you CAN go there.

 

I stand corrected, you are right WoW "chokes a bit" is perhaps a better system them this one because your right atleast you can go everywhere on the map and be in the same sandbox, with the exception of the dungeons....

The reason I refer to WoW is it created the fad of Theameparks but atleast in WoW they are tollerable, SWTOR is even worse then WoW, Star Trek Online was horribly theameparked and if this is ElderScrolls direction than it makes me very sad indeed!!!!

Originally posted by drivendawn
I am very glad to see they are making the other areas accessible.

Yes it's good to see that they've given into whiners and investors by adding that and killing public duneons, instead of sticking to good game design.

Instanced copies zones within the world are a terrible, terrible, terrible Idea!!!!

Remember when UO Created Trammel?!?  All the PvP screamed it would kill pvp because all the sheep would leave! 

And it did....

All the Sheep left the game because now they lived in a world without danger and things that were accomplishments in the game no longer were there was no risk to justify the reward.

The Public Mass's do not know what they want so you dont give it to them....  They want RISK but when given an option to do a quest in a zone with pvp or without they will take the latter everytime!

Instanced zones based off of personal preferences are a horrible idea!!!!

Keep it one big sandbox, where everyone can go pls!!!!

Originally posted by jfoytek

Well if this is a Quest Based Linear Themepark I am out!

 I want a Sandbox, non linear, non quest based game inside of the world of Tamriel....

ESO is a story-based themepark mmo.

Originally posted by Illyssia

Originally posted by jfoytek

Well if this is a Quest Based Linear Themepark I am out!

 I want a Sandbox, non linear, non quest based game inside of the world of Tamriel....

ESO is a story-based themepark mmo.

Which is why, if they can't figure out how to do RVR, it will fail like all the other themeparks. [mod edit]