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  achesoma

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3/19/13 11:35:54 AM#21
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by meddyck
So with the zone unlocking, is that a separate version of the other faction's zones or is it the same version members of that opposing faction are in? If the latter, will it be open PvP, PvP flagged, or no PvP?

That depends on you.  With the mega-server, you'll set your playstyle preferences, and in each zone you travel too be matched up with like-minder players.  Want open pvp? Select it as a preference and you're there.  Not so much? No worries, you can carebear it up.

 

Did I read this correctly?  Not only did they lift zone restrictions but I can pvp in other faction zones too?  Either I'm dreaming or the ESO devs are paying attention. 

  BadSpock

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3/19/13 11:45:07 AM#22
Originally posted by sapphen
Originally posted by BadSpock

This is honestly sounding better and better.

A few of my biggest fears about this game have been eased today.

lol, it's certianly sounding a lot more like a TES spin-off rather than a DAoC knock-off.  I am still leary though...

 

Um yeah it is sounding more and more like TES online rather than DAOC 2 with an ES Skin.

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  DJMantiss

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3/19/13 11:48:48 AM#23
Very excited about this and happy that the news coming out is both detailed and concise. Makes you really want this to become the next great MMO for all of the Elder Scrolls fans. (^_^)
  Giffen

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3/19/13 12:22:18 PM#24
Originally posted by Jakdstripper

well at least they do have a first person view. i guess even the original TES had the option to go 3rd person if you wanted.....

...now they better NOT have stupid lock on tab targeting....

I'm not sure how you do third person without tab targeting...you aren't going to be able to aim very well in third person IMHO.

  monarc333

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3/19/13 12:30:05 PM#25

Players who complete all of the PvE in their zone will now get the chance to unlock another zone at Level 50. Therefore, Ebonheart players can explore the content of the Daggerfall Covenant or the Aldmeri Dominion at Level 50. Once you make the choice the entire zone opens up to your character to explore. Matt did say that the loot you will get in the other zones will be really good, and after finishing the 2nd, you unlock the third. When you unlock the third zone that will give some of the best loot in the game.

This is VERY welcome news! Their previous position was a complete turn off for me, but this, wow love it!

  pb1285n

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3/19/13 12:56:13 PM#26
So, after saying first person view would never happened it looks like we're getting it.

Also you can explore the entire world. What will you bitch about now?
  adam_nox

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3/19/13 2:03:20 PM#27

"The new zones are set up to play with level 50+ content."  Clarify?

 

I assume this means those zones HAVE TO BE special instanced versions of those areas, otherwise they wouldn't have all 50+ content. 

 

I see your response above saying it depends on the player, but why didn't you say that in the article?  Are you sure that's how the 2 unlock zones actually work or is this assumption/speculation?

  Nikopol

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3/19/13 2:04:13 PM#28

My biggest beef with the way they were going was the zone lock, I'm really glad they changed that.

First person is something I'll only use situationally (and very rarely) anyway, doesn't matter much to me... though of course it's always good to have more options.

 

  Joreel

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3/19/13 2:17:43 PM#29
This is great news obviously, now the next question is has anyone gotten a beta key yet? Hopefully beta starts soon :-).
  Gruzzle

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3/19/13 3:34:52 PM#30
Originally posted by Giffen
Originally posted by Jakdstripper

well at least they do have a first person view. i guess even the original TES had the option to go 3rd person if you wanted.....

...now they better NOT have stupid lock on tab targeting....

I'm not sure how you do third person without tab targeting...you aren't going to be able to aim very well in third person IMHO.

Giffen, have you tried playing Skyrim on the computer? If so, zoom out and play third-person for a bit. Also, as an MMO? Try TERA. It recently went free2play and uses a "live combat" system. No tab targeting. It's quite a unique and fun experience! I hope ESO pulls it off as well, or better!

  ArkangylG

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3/19/13 3:46:13 PM#31
Originally posted by Giffen
Originally posted by Jakdstripper

well at least they do have a first person view. i guess even the original TES had the option to go 3rd person if you wanted.....

...now they better NOT have stupid lock on tab targeting....

I'm not sure how you do third person without tab targeting...you aren't going to be able to aim very well in third person IMHO.

Are you joking? Kidding? Play many games? There are a ton of games on the market for the past two decades SP, MP, and MMO (more recently) that re or can be third person that are non-lock or tab targetting. Some might have slightly sticky targetting but not tab. Fallen Earth is one example. TERA. Neverwinter. Global Agenda. Defiance. Heck, even current ES games can be played 3rd person and do not require first.

 

It will work just fine. ;)

  observer

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3/19/13 3:47:30 PM#32
Originally posted by pb1285n
So, after saying first person view would never happened it looks like we're getting it.

Also you can explore the entire world. What will you bitch about now?

The way that it's implemented.  Just because we can explore doesn't mean it's implemented well.  This gives the impression that "endgame" starts at 50.  It's just a band-aid fix to their core design philosophy about open-world pvp.

And First Person View is news?  Really?  I don't understand devs.  Swtor still doesn't have chat bubbles and GW2 still doesn't have First Person View.  These are pretty much standard in MMOs.  The fact that is news is troubling.

  Sovrath

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3/19/13 3:51:56 PM#33
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by pb1285n
So, after saying first person view would never happened it looks like we're getting it.

Also you can explore the entire world. What will you bitch about now?

The way that it's implemented.  Just because we can explore doesn't mean it's implemented well.  This gives the impression that "endgame" starts at 50.  It's just a band-aid fix to their core design philosophy about open-world pvp.

And First Person View is news?  Really?  I don't understand devs.  Swtor still doesn't have chat bubbles and GW2 still doesn't have First Person View.  These are pretty much standard in MMOs.  The fact that is news is troubling.

The first person view they are talking about is very different from the first person view you think they are talking about.

In mmo's first person view becomes your camera sitting at your character's head's height and floating gently above the ground as you look around, maybe even toward yoru rear as you float on down the roa.d

This first person view is solidly set (if they do it like oblivion/Skyrim) where you move the direction you are looking AND you have your weapons in hand, which you can see and you can solidly fight in first person all the while seeing yourself block, seeing your sword come down, see your bow string release, see your staff fire and recoil.

It's a very different experience.

  Kaneth

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3/19/13 3:52:37 PM#34
This game is sounding better everytime I read something on it. Fully explorable world regardless of faction, with a reason to do it. Plus the Sorcerer from another article sounded like a really neat class idea. I really want to see these classes in action now.
  Lokero

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3/19/13 3:53:31 PM#35
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by pb1285n
So, after saying first person view would never happened it looks like we're getting it.

Also you can explore the entire world. What will you bitch about now?

The way that it's implemented.  Just because we can explore doesn't mean it's implemented well.  This gives the impression that "endgame" starts at 50.  It's just a band-aid fix to their core design philosophy about open-world pvp.

And First Person View is news?  Really?  I don't understand devs.  Swtor still doesn't have chat bubbles and GW2 still doesn't have First Person View.  These are pretty much standard in MMOs.  The fact that is news is troubling.

Well, FPView is 'news' because everyone has been asking about it for a while, and, originally, it wasn't in the game.  The reason they are calling it news, is because they are finally confirming it exists.

I haven't been watching the development of this game super-closely, but it seemed, originally, that alot of the basic Elder Scrolls game systems were not going to be a part of the game.  Only, after much criticism and forum spamming, have alot of those systems suddenly been getting added.

When they started developing this game, they started out with WoW-style combat and no first person, etc.  It's like they've done a complete 180 on all these things(which is good), and so it's good 'news' that those things are making their appearance.

  JasonJ

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3/19/13 3:56:31 PM#36

I would really like to know by what they mean by opening another realm to explore at 50...just explore? Will there be quests? Are we an enemy combatant to the citites in that realm?

While it still sucks to be locked into a realm just by race choice when it comes to RPing it would at least suck less if the other realms have quests in them to do...

  ragz45

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3/19/13 4:02:12 PM#37

On the good side, the exploration of the whole world and 1st person view are great news.

On the bad side, the "wayshrines", or waypoints, make it sound like GW2.  This will make the world just seem that much smaller than it actually is.  I prefered the older games where you hoofed it, litterally.

  Lokero

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3/19/13 4:04:23 PM#38
Originally posted by JasonJ

I would really like to know by what they mean by opening another realm to explore at 50...just explore? Will there be quests? Are we an enemy combatant to the citites in that realm?

While it still sucks to be locked into a realm just by race choice when it comes to RPing it would at least suck less if the other realms have quests in them to do...

The way it was presented in the article, it sounded to me like it will just be an instanced version of the other realm's zones with only your teammates populating it.

So if you are in Enemy Zone A, you aren't actually in Enemy Zone A, but in Enemy Zone A+(populated by players of your own faction only).

  ElRenmazuo

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3/19/13 4:11:17 PM#39
Originally posted by Lokero
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by pb1285n
So, after saying first person view would never happened it looks like we're getting it.

Also you can explore the entire world. What will you bitch about now?

The way that it's implemented.  Just because we can explore doesn't mean it's implemented well.  This gives the impression that "endgame" starts at 50.  It's just a band-aid fix to their core design philosophy about open-world pvp.

And First Person View is news?  Really?  I don't understand devs.  Swtor still doesn't have chat bubbles and GW2 still doesn't have First Person View.  These are pretty much standard in MMOs.  The fact that is news is troubling.

Well, FPView is 'news' because everyone has been asking about it for a while, and, originally, it wasn't in the game.  The reason they are calling it news, is because they are finally confirming it exists.

I haven't been watching the development of this game super-closely, but it seemed, originally, that alot of the basic Elder Scrolls game systems were not going to be a part of the game.  Only, after much criticism and forum spamming, have alot of those systems suddenly been getting added.

When they started developing this game, they started out with WoW-style combat and no first person, etc.  It's like they've done a complete 180 on all these things(which is good), and so it's good 'news' that those things are making their appearance.

they never said it as WoW style combat i dont know where you got that from because in their gameplay video they said and showed that the combat is like the sp elder scrolls where you have to aim and everything. The dev in the video said right in the beginning of the video they wanted to create strategic real-time combat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEipFtHw7o

  JasonJ

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3/19/13 4:27:02 PM#40
Originally posted by Lokero
Originally posted by JasonJ

I would really like to know by what they mean by opening another realm to explore at 50...just explore? Will there be quests? Are we an enemy combatant to the citites in that realm?

While it still sucks to be locked into a realm just by race choice when it comes to RPing it would at least suck less if the other realms have quests in them to do...

The way it was presented in the article, it sounded to me like it will just be an instanced version of the other realm's zones with only your teammates populating it.

So if you are in Enemy Zone A, you aren't actually in Enemy Zone A, but in Enemy Zone A+(populated by players of your own faction only).

 IF that is the case, it changes nothing about the closed off realms bit that pissed so many people off. Still boggles the mind they chose to bring back the one thing that only a couple other games had, all made by the same people on top of it. Its a design few players know about or even want.

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