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3/18/13 4:36:42 PM#21
Does this count as Schadenfreude? Just for a brief moment I get a giddy joy, too bad nothing will change. Simply a self mutilation PR stunt, almost humorous to think they can cut out the infection after it has already spread.
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kakasaki
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Joined: 6/11/06
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3/18/13 4:40:17 PM#22
Originally posted by Psychow I wonder how long it will take companies to realize they can't keep screwing with their customers and not expect repercussion... A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true... |
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3/18/13 4:41:46 PM#23
Originally posted by Psychow
Though you are pretty much spot on Psychow when you cut through the "spwaned lov... sorry gamer" bullshit EA haven't really been knocking it out of the park lately have they and eventually the head honcho has to go. This doom and gloom thread was brought to you by Chin Up™ the new high caffeine soft drink for gamers who just need that boost of happiness after a long forum session. |
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3/18/13 4:41:50 PM#24
Originally posted by Yamota Sorry, but this is just really really misguided. If a game is very popular, it will make lots of profits. Equating good games with low profits is just silly. Low profit because the games are bad. You seem to have it backwards. EA certainly thought, as did many companies, that copying the success of WoW (which is very profitable because it was/is a good game), would make them lots of money. Instead, they found out that it was either really hard to copy WoW or just too expensive (e.g., SWTOR and voice acting). Once they spent $100m, $200m or so, they had to eventually release it. How much would you prefer they spend? Going forward, companies are looking to copy Eve Online, where the development expense is low and the players make the content, which is of course quite profitable. Under your analysis, game companies should just make games and lose money. Yeah, that's gonna work.
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3/18/13 4:43:15 PM#25
Finally some accountability...
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3/18/13 4:48:51 PM#26
Originally posted by Psychow None, once companies stop screwing people over in the name of profit. |
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3/18/13 4:54:36 PM#27
It's nothing but a PR stunt, and a costly one for EA. This guy very likely made more money stepping down and up again elsewhere then he would have made if he remained in his position. So we probably aren't the only ones who like this whole thing...i bet he parties, too. |
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3/18/13 4:56:02 PM#28
Originally posted by Volgore
Yeah, but no more free EA games for him...so...it's not all roses... |
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3/18/13 4:59:50 PM#29
Originally posted by asmkm22
Simple solution to this... don't buy what you don't think is good value. But the same gamers that scream the house down at any indiscretrion are the same ones who are so ready to... well my mate Fry has the answer..
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Sevenstar61
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Joined: 7/22/12
"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words |
3/18/13 5:08:27 PM#30
EA has a very bad industry image problem right now. The best way to change it to hire somebody new to EA, preferably well liked/respected person and see how it goes from there.
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3/18/13 5:13:36 PM#31
Originally posted by Psychow Well he has allways got F2P EA games to play but he will have to buy his clips :) I'm not too bothered about him leaving really , I only play SWTOR and not many sports games. I do like criterion games though but wish they would allow them to make a new burnout , having said that they made the NFS series great again. Anyways , when they find someone new i hope they change this all games should have micro transactions , as we the gamers don't appreciate spending too much extra money , especially in stand alone one player games. Cheers, BadOrb. PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , Defiance launch ongoing. |
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3/18/13 5:18:30 PM#32
I see this as great news. But only if they get a good leader that understands gaming and profit. If they get a great CEO this could be a big plus for SWTOR and the next EQ or UO game. But then again I may be wishing on a star.
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3/18/13 5:18:35 PM#33
Originally posted by Paragus1 ....that really won't change anything, just look at the statements throughout the article by EA, this guy applied the corporate policies/strategies, just like they expect the next guy to. EA has an agenda that won't change simply because the public face of the corporate ladder isn't as familiar or notorious. This will certainly have no impact on their strategy toward expanding DRM avenues or buying up popular franchises/studios. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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3/18/13 5:21:09 PM#34
Originally posted by Sevenstar61 Or turn it into a reality tv show for the Next Greatest EA CEO. |
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Elikal
Spotlight Poster
Joined: 2/09/06
“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth |
3/18/13 5:22:22 PM#35
Originally posted by BadSpock With all due respect, but I can't agree here. First, the outrages against EA are overall not worse than against others, it just seems so, because EA produces simply more games. Also: HELL EA DESERVED IT. Sorry to yell. Just felt that way. I mean, heck, EA crapped and ruined *every single series* they touched.
EA is like a reverse King Midas. Like to King Midas all things he touched transformed into gold, under EA's hands all gold turns to shit. Dragon Age, Mass Effect, SWTOR, SimCity - all based on the most prosperous and biggest chances to make epic games, partially based on the cool IPs, partially based on the great previous experience. DA and ME had great first parts. SWTOR had SWG as referrence what people loved in a Star Wars MMO. SimCity had great previous incarnations. And yet, somehow EA managed to turn EVERY SINGLE ONE of them artistically and creatively into shit. At least RELATIVE to their potential. Sure, none of these games under EA were shit, but they were shit in relation to what they COULD and SHOULD have been given the tons of money and tons of previous experience. Nobody has such a big chance to make epic games out of Dragon Age, Mass Effect, SWTOR and SimCity and none screwed so royally. And the failure was always the same. A vast potential was narrowed down in scope in art and creativity down to a boring, simplistic lowest common denominator. A shallow watering down, playing safe and running behind what some desktop boss thinks is hyper hyper. Best example of what is wrong with EA is how they treated the Ultima RPGs. Ultima VI and VII before EA were EPIC games. But as soon as EA got their hands on Ultima, suddenly Ultima VIII had consolish jump elements. Why? Because Super Mario was so succesful and EA thought, hey why not add a SuperMario jump element? And to hell if that fits to an Ultima RPG. Same with Ultima IX. At the time 3d with Lara Croft became a success and suddenyl EA thought, hey why not make the new Ultima like Lara Croft in 3d, and to hell if that fits to Ultima. EVERYTHING in Ultima was BROKEN and tossed out of the fucking window to shoehorn Ultima into a Super Mario and then into Lara Croft. THAT is what always HAS been wrong about EA and apparently still IS wrong. It was the problem with SWTOR. "Oh look, our dialogue heavy KOTOR won awards, let's make the MMO the same way." And to hell with everything people loved about SWG and open world Star Wars MMO. So SW the MMo was forced down the single player story idea, no matter if that made any sense. It also is now the problem with SIm City 5. "Oh look Farmville and Online Facebook games are so popular, let's shoehorn Sim City into some Facebook-Farmville style game!" It's always these shitty CEO/Boss/desktop ideas of people who have NO CLUE what made these games great or don't care and shove their absurd ideas into games. That's whats wrong with EA: they totally lack any empathy and respect for their games. They always want to follow some perceived trend, always greedily thinking, oh if we follow THIS trend we will get even MORE money instead of jus the fuck STICK with what was WORKING and being respectful to the game series, but oh no some desktop smartass thinks he knows it ALL better and all must be tossed over and shoehorned into some mindfuck idea.
For EA I can only say, they are not part of the solution, they are the problem! So if Riccitiello steps back - good riddance. And let him take the entire bosses with him. "Things weren't better in the past. But a lot of things were GOOD, and they would STILL be, if people had stopped the fuck messing around with them!" |
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3/18/13 5:25:46 PM#36
Originally posted by mmoguy43
Not a bad idea...hmm...and...and they could sell each episode on Origin!! |
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3/18/13 5:29:14 PM#37
Originally posted by Psychow The should call it "EA presents: The next top patsy". For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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3/18/13 5:32:34 PM#38
EA is like an hydra made of shit Cutting one of the heads wont solve the problem "Some of the less objective people tend to be close-minded though and basically disregard any possible shortcomings that gw2 could have." |
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3/18/13 5:34:44 PM#39
I want to know how much he got for stepping down. I also want 1% of that and i'll be happy.
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3/18/13 5:51:09 PM#40
And yet the Board of Directors is till in place. The same board he answered to. I don't see much changing in EA's future... - Al Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. |
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