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  Maleus666

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3/18/13 4:22:49 PM#41
I miss War. This is the best RvR ever. GW2 wasn't so funny as War. but I just return if it goes f2p.

Go to hell!

  MaxJac

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3/18/13 4:50:19 PM#42

If they make the change to F2P I have said and still say I am prepared to pay. I have always thought WAR was the best RvR/PvP experience around. What made me leave wasn't the game, it was largely the frustration of when they stole some WAR developers to try and patch up SWTOR's broken PvP.

I do like Keaven as well. I have read some of his posts on the WAR forums while checking up on it and him and his team seem way more open now, stating matter of factly what they can and can not do. I value that honesty.

  Ozmodan

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3/18/13 5:20:36 PM#43

My opinion of course, but I think this game really missed out.  The pvp had way too much crowd control for my liking.  Much of what they promised was never delivered.  The game has not seen any additions for 4 years.  Pretty much tells you EA left it for dead.

If NCSoft was the owner, this game would have been retired years ago.  

  Ulorik

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3/18/13 5:57:57 PM#44

Ok, so for all the doom mongers:

 

If WAR is so bad which RvR/Open world PvP are you currently playing that is more satisfying???

 

GW2: you were killed by an anonymous invader...

DaoC: 2 seconds spell animation..

Planetside 2: Rush rinse repeat..

 

Come up with the goods please, until TESO or CU there may not be anything better around

 
  Volenibblets

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3/18/13 6:10:34 PM#45

I would return to an F2P WAR in a heartbeat. I think that it had a lot going for it (bar the obvious lack of mentionable PvE content) but paying a sub was always out of the question from day one. Amazed they haven't gone down the F2P road yet to bring back peeps. I am truly convinced it would save the game...for a few years at least. Resubbed a while back (briefly) and it was sad to see that they had dealt with the population problems by introducing resource NPCs that run between keeps, talk about ignoring the obvious infront of your nose :-/

I feel all this moreso after playing the utterly pointless bee-swarm zergfest that is GW2 WvWvW, it's a mockery of a copy. 

  Volenibblets

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3/18/13 6:11:17 PM#46

Oops duplicate post please remove tnx

  User Deleted
3/18/13 6:23:41 PM#47
How in the world did he talk about how great the game is doing with a straight face?  The game is down to two servers in the world, I believe, and hasn't had an expansion or really any new content added, ever.
  MaxJac

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3/18/13 6:24:58 PM#48
Originally posted by Volenibblets

I would return to an F2P WAR in a heartbeat. I think that it had a lot going for it (bar the obvious lack of mentionable PvE content) but paying a sub was always out of the question from day one. Amazed they haven't gone down the F2P road yet to bring back peeps. I am truly convinced it would save the game...for a few years at least. Resubbed a while back (briefly) and it was sad to see that they had dealt with the population problems by introducing resource NPCs that run between keeps, talk about ignoring the obvious infront of your nose :-/

I feel all this moreso after playing the utterly pointless bee-swarm zergfest that is GW2 WvWvW, it's a mockery of a copy. 

I think the resource NPC's were a great idea. It gives players another target to try and defend or attack. I don't think it was to alleviate population woes, but instead to make fighting in the lakes have another layer.

I feel the same about GW2's WvW. There are so many things that just don't work, especially having played WAR, which obviously inspired GW2.

  Eraserhead

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3/18/13 6:32:19 PM#49
 
Originally posted by cronius77

people saying the population in warhammer online is good are seriously dillusional and there is no way anyone should take anything they say from now on with a grain of salt. Mythic has completely destroyed warhammer online from even before land of the dead released. I would say this game hasnt EVER received memorable content at all since release. I played warhammer religiously for over two years from release and this game NEVER got better and patches after the first round of layoffs were fluff recycled garbage. There are bugs in war to this day that been in game since day 1. Hell the only reason there isnt culling and lag at fortresses now is because the population is like maybe 5k subscribers left. This guy is spinning bullshit over and over again and Im sorry why do people bother giving him the benefit of the doubt?

They are spending the next 2 to 3 patches on balance changes? come on man seriously they are mirrored classes so that splits half your balance in half you have to worry about right there. Other games do this every single patch a little here and there and actually add in content. Why exactly does war get one or the other in a patch cycle? What is it only you working on war now? OP you should of asked him that. Seriously this game needs to just go and shut down or have its license pulled from game workshop so someone else can pick it up and do it right. These guys do not have any intention at all of actually making this a real game as mentioned in his first post about having a hardcore dedicated fanbase. What a load of BS .

 

The population right now is very healthy with large and small scale fights happening constantly in t4. That's just the way it is.
  Eraserhead

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3/18/13 6:33:27 PM#50
Originally posted by Eraserhead
 
Originally posted by cronius77

people saying the population in warhammer online is good are seriously dillusional and there is no way anyone should take anything they say from now on with a grain of salt. Mythic has completely destroyed warhammer online from even before land of the dead released. I would say this game hasnt EVER received memorable content at all since release. I played warhammer religiously for over two years from release and this game NEVER got better and patches after the first round of layoffs were fluff recycled garbage. There are bugs in war to this day that been in game since day 1. Hell the only reason there isnt culling and lag at fortresses now is because the population is like maybe 5k subscribers left. This guy is spinning bullshit over and over again and Im sorry why do people bother giving him the benefit of the doubt?

They are spending the next 2 to 3 patches on balance changes? come on man seriously they are mirrored classes so that splits half your balance in half you have to worry about right there. Other games do this every single patch a little here and there and actually add in content. Why exactly does war get one or the other in a patch cycle? What is it only you working on war now? OP you should of asked him that. Seriously this game needs to just go and shut down or have its license pulled from game workshop so someone else can pick it up and do it right. These guys do not have any intention at all of actually making this a real game as mentioned in his first post about having a hardcore dedicated fanbase. What a load of BS .

 

The population right now is very healthy with large and small scale fights happening constantly in t4. That's just the way it is.

 
  MaxJac

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3/18/13 6:40:14 PM#51

I think people overlook the PvE in WAR. I get why they are overlooked though, there was a lot of PvE content in a game aimed at RvR people. You don't have to do the PvE content since it is seperated from RvR lakes, so it ends up feeling like wasted resources by the development team. I think that even PvP lovers can enjoy the dungeons though, most of them are really great. Some of the public quests are fun as well, but they face the issue of not having enough players around to finish them which makes sense since most prefer PvP.

In WAR you really need some friends if you want to do PvE. It doesn't hurt having them in RvR either.

  dinams

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3/18/13 6:41:31 PM#52

I am one of those who would gladly jump back into WAR if it went f2p

I am freaking clueless why they dont do it

"It has potential"
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"It sucks"
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  Volenibblets

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3/18/13 6:48:42 PM#53
Originally posted by MaxJac

I think the resource NPC's were a great idea. It gives players another target to try and defend or attack. I don't think it was to alleviate population woes, but instead to make fighting in the lakes have another layer.

It did add another layer to keep-capping dynamics true (even in lower tiers) but it was a layer that wasn't necessary to make it continuously engaging and fun when there were healthy pops across all tiers back at the start. And it does make the open work strategic pvp more workable when there are bugger-all people online (or subbed) so it seems likely to me that it was introduced at least partially for that reason imo.

/Offtopic - Lo-and-behold they have exactly the same resource system in GW2 but in this degenerate case, it barely has a saliable point like everything else in GW2 - beautiful and amazingly well coded and stable an edifice though it is.

  MaxJac

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3/18/13 6:56:28 PM#54
Originally posted by Volenibblets
Originally posted by MaxJac

I think the resource NPC's were a great idea. It gives players another target to try and defend or attack. I don't think it was to alleviate population woes, but instead to make fighting in the lakes have another layer.

It did add another layer to keep-capping dynamics true (even in lower tiers) but it was a layer that wasn't necessary to make it continuously engaging and fun when there were healthy pops across all tiers back at the start. And it does make the open work strategic pvp more workable when there are bugger-all people online (or subbed) so it seems likely to me that it was introduced at least partially for that reason imo.

/Offtopic - Lo-and-behold they have exactly the same resource system in GW2 but in this degenerate case, it barely has a saliable point like everything else in GW2 - beautiful and amazingly well coded and stable an edifice though it is.

 

I see your point, and I agree.

  Volenibblets

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3/18/13 7:31:25 PM#55

Again slightly offtopic - I think it was a noble choice to dispense with healers/tanks/dps in GW2. I take my hat off to their effort to shake things up and offer something new on a shiny silver, well-programmed platter. But all I could think while playing it was how it fell short from what I felt its wvwvw was trying to emulate most - WAR's RvR (forgive my ignorance of anything else similar I haven't played). And, consequently, I was continuously reminded about how beautifully concise the balance brought by a healer/tank/dps dynamic worked for me in WAR at its best.

For me, WAR's RVR felt like: 

a) you were making an impact on events no matter what role you were playing in a huge group

b) the fights felt like they were finely balanced and dependant on your role even in this mass of players 

c) winning a fight for a keep could shift and alter in a moment if even one healer afk'd or d/c'd or if even a single player thought up a new tactic or flanked the zerg.

Now that is what I call good, on the edge mass pvp gaming and none of these things I can say for GW2. Shame WAR had it's own issues that turned the mass market off over time :-(

This also translates to a lot of new games - like old Planetside versus planetside 2. In PS2 fights almost feel predetermined. You attack a base, everything is shifted in your sides favour that you'll cap it bar  a miracle or brute force. In the original PS, the a/b/c of above were in play and one player could shift things. Food for thought in newer lines of thought in game design. 

  cronius77

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3/18/13 8:21:18 PM#56
Originally posted by Ulorik

Ok, so for all the doom mongers:

 

If WAR is so bad which RvR/Open world PvP are you currently playing that is more satisfying???

 

GW2: you were killed by an anonymous invader...

DaoC: 2 seconds spell animation..

Planetside 2: Rush rinse repeat..

 

Come up with the goods please, until TESO or CU there may not be anything better around

 

you are missing the point entirely , the reason people here are complaining is because war was that good in pvp and realm vs realm . There is a void for a lot of old DAOC and WAR vets that games like GW2 cannot fill because lets face it unless guild wars 2 makes new maps that are not all concentrated zerge GW2 wvw just plain out sucks compared to WAR and DAOC.  A lot of the people here commenting on WAR in general are pissed off , like myself that mythic jacked the game up after release and put it on life support instead . Blame EA or mythic either way its mythics problem now and they are the only ones that can bring life to it. This game had about ZERO updates after about 6 months of it being out , the last ditch effort to save it was the land of the dead patch. The rest of the patches after that were garbage like adding relics in and forts back and the new realm vs realm campaign. Those were not made to get players back at all , just to try and keep the already bleeding subs from going elsewhere. Hell Ill even take WOW or GW2 right now over mythic and warhammer just because there seems to be zero hope at all of them ever making the game better and adding more content.

  Ulorik

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3/18/13 8:30:30 PM#57
Originally posted by cronius77
Originally posted by Ulorik

Ok, so for all the doom mongers:

 

If WAR is so bad which RvR/Open world PvP are you currently playing that is more satisfying???

 

GW2: you were killed by an anonymous invader...

DaoC: 2 seconds spell animation..

Planetside 2: Rush rinse repeat..

 

Come up with the goods please, until TESO or CU there may not be anything better around

 

you are missing the point entirely , the reason people here are complaining is because war was that good in pvp and realm vs realm . There is a void for a lot of old DAOC and WAR vets that games like GW2 cannot fill because lets face it unless guild wars 2 makes new maps that are not all concentrated zerge GW2 wvw just plain out sucks compared to WAR and DAOC.  A lot of the people here commenting on WAR in general are pissed off , like myself that mythic jacked the game up after release and put it on life support instead . Blame EA or mythic either way its mythics problem now and they are the only ones that can bring life to it. This game had about ZERO updates after about 6 months of it being out , the last ditch effort to save it was the land of the dead patch. The rest of the patches after that were garbage like adding relics in and forts back and the new realm vs realm campaign. Those were not made to get players back at all , just to try and keep the already bleeding subs from going elsewhere. Hell Ill even take WOW or GW2 right now over mythic and warhammer just because there seems to be zero hope at all of them ever making the game better and adding more content.

All very well. ( Btw, I loved the fact that you just couldn't ransack the enemy capital 3 times daily and that it took ages to get to the capital, good on you guys for bringing fortresses back)

 

Still the question remains unanswered: What do you play currently that fulfills your RvR / Open world PvP needs ?

  Comaf

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I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters.

3/18/13 10:14:56 PM#58
Originally posted by Soki123
DAOC is still the best pvp on ground.

Agreed.  And let me take from what the dev said, "If I had it to do all over again, and I was in a position to affect some influence, I would have to say three realms. Don’t get me wrong, I in no way believe 3-Realms is the “magic bullet” that would solve all of WAR’s balance issues. It would, however, add a player-correcting element that helps keep the battlefield engaging and dynamic. Even with all the other issues WAR may have had, that would have helped prevent players feeling they were painted into a corner, rage quitting, and subsequently emptying the battlefield of bodies (I will point back to the population issue from earlier)."

 

And that about sums it up. 

 

I cannot speak for everyone, of course, but I cannot possibly describe how many folks on a few servers before and after mergers - all claimed that 3 realms would at least add enough value to the game for them to stay on.  The classes were, in my opinion, just not what they could have been.  After seeing the variety of what DAoC has, 3 realms, 44 classes, 24 races, and so forth, it's just hard to see something that could have been in many ways the next Dark Age, but for some corporate misshap, became the very opposite of that ideal, and yet kept a few buzzwords to keep some of us on, i.e., RvR, and so forth.

 

I hope they do well, I honetly do...I just wish they would have listened to what so many of us screamed and argued out over the forums.  But I guess that's how it works. 

 

Call it hubrus, or just developers that had no choice or say in the matter, but the folks in authority at EA? forgot that these games are made for the players, not just the people who make the game ala programming and so forth.  If we, the players, consistently point out that we wanted much of what we missed in Dark Age, then by God they should have given that to us. 

 

Considering that even Dark Age's team was unable to give us ORIGINS, and considering how tiny a reward that was after so many years of loyalty..well...heh. 

  freakishbean

Novice Member

Joined: 1/30/08
Posts: 176

3/18/13 10:31:18 PM#59
Heres an Idea. How about NEW F*CKING CONTENT? I have played 5 classes to max level and I am so god damn bored of this game now. Give us new areas to explore, new races, a new faction. Give us MORE FRIGGIN CONTENT. A Live Expansion that introduces Vampire Counts or something. I don't care, just make the game FUN again.

Needing is Wanting...
Wanting is Coveting...
Coveting is Sinning...
I am SO going to Hell.

  Jyiiga

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/03/10
Posts: 1046

3/18/13 10:55:47 PM#60
I really can't stomach anything anyone at Mythic/Bioware has to say these days. Truthfully I did not read past the first few questions before I was eye rolling. This game isn't going anywhere, but it will never again be significally on the rise either. 
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