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General Discussion  » Bad taste from Warhammer Online and now CU?

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  Excession

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3/14/13 7:03:37 AM#41
Originally posted by falcuk

So if you wanna bash MJ, go for it, but give him some credit for getting back on the horse he has fallen off, takes alot of guts to do that, and even more to do so in such a public way and needless to say WITH HIS OWN MONEY.

MJ if your reading this, please get the kickstarter up ASAP, i have money waiting to invest in you mate.

Wait, what?

What exactly is he doing with his own money, if he is setting up a kickstarter campaign, asking people to give him money, to pay for CU?

Surely, if he was creating CU with his own money, as you start out suggesting, and even say we should give him credit for doing so, he would not need to have a kickstarter campaign at all.

At the end of the day, I could not give a rats ass about what he did in the past, or how he did it, but I do think he is taking the piss a bit now, expecting people to hand over cash for what amounts to nothing but blog posts.

A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  meddyck

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3/14/13 7:10:55 AM#42
Some people act like this is the choice of a doctor to perform life saving surgery or investing all their retirement savings. It's just a guy and his company making a video game. A guy who made a great game, DAOC, but also made some poor decisions with later expansions to that game and with the creation of another game WAR. If the latter outweighs the former for you, then don't donate to kickstarter or only donate a small amount that you can live with if CU ends up disappointing you. It's that simple.

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  morfidon

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Joined: 2/19/13
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3/14/13 7:20:02 AM#43
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by falcuk

So if you wanna bash MJ, go for it, but give him some credit for getting back on the horse he has fallen off, takes alot of guts to do that, and even more to do so in such a public way and needless to say WITH HIS OWN MONEY.

MJ if your reading this, please get the kickstarter up ASAP, i have money waiting to invest in you mate.

Wait, what?

What exactly is he doing with his own money, if he is setting up a kickstarter campaign, asking people to give him money, to pay for CU?

Surely, if he was creating CU with his own money, as you start out suggesting, and even say we should give him credit for doing so, he would not need to have a kickstarter campaign at all.

At the end of the day, I could not give a rats ass about what he did in the past, or how he did it, but I do think he is taking the piss a bit now, expecting people to hand over cash for what amounts to nothing but blog posts.

If 2$mln will be collected Mark will invest also his money as he stated. 2$mln is not enough to produce a game. He is checking by creating kickstarter if there is enough demand for this game. What's more it's very cool way to preorder game. People preorder many games but there are always mediators between producer. Because of it producers get probably about 30-50% of the value. Here we can give 100% to the developers. Because of the kickstarter you can have a game without the company above him who would tell him what to do like EA.

  Thane

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Joined: 8/14/03
Posts: 1864

I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.

3/14/13 7:20:16 AM#44
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC

behind MJ was EA and Games Workshop.

He didnt make the final decisions. Big companies aim for lots of money first, MJ aims at making a good game.

So i think yes it will be very different, and much better than WAR.

totaly agreed. the ideas they had in beta (and actually till shot before release) were awesome. then they found a pulisher, and they told em to do this and that... scrap the 3rd city and so on.

 

publishers want games out fast, to make money. obviously, that's their job.

and THAT's the advantage we get through kickstarter.

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  Teh_Axi

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Joined: 9/21/08
Posts: 405

3/14/13 7:27:11 AM#45

Yeah theres a large chance the game will be medicore at best for many.

DAoC is a game based on awesome ideas, was the first MMO I ever tried and I bought the box purely off the sales pitch. Might not sound like a big thing but the number of games I've bought with no knowledge beyond whats on the box you can count on one hand. The game itself though was . . . an acquired taste.

WAR on the other hand was a game just full of bad decisions. Was it all MJs fault? Probably not but he was still the man in charge. If anyone was going to say "Hey, maybe we should make it so players actually fight each other?" it should have been him and obviously he didn't say it enough, if ever.

So yeah, other people do share your sentiment.

  Oldskoo

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Joined: 2/12/13
Posts: 190

3/14/13 9:11:50 AM#46
I don't have a bad taste from Warhammer at all. Both Warhammer and DAoC were fun games for me and my family. I didn't care for the crafting or PVE but I loved the PVP/RVR in it and found it much more entertaining than anything it's contemporaries offered in this aspect. I was a subscriber for about two years and still have the game installed on my computer to play a free account from time to time when I get the urge. The only games I was subscribed to longer was probably EQ 1, EQ 2, and UO. In the end of it, I just grew tired of the game because I played it so damn much. Got more than my money's worth of entertainment out of it, even with it's acknowledged flaws.

  Amana

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3/14/13 11:50:56 AM#47
This thread has beasically become fighting and a big back and forth. Also, all members of this comunity, including the developers among us, deserve the same respect as any other users on this forum. That doesn't mean special, because you can express negative opinions of a person's work or opinions without personal attacks.

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