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News & Features Discussion  » [General Article] Neverwinter: Thoughts from Beta Weekend 2

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  David_Lopan

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Joined: 9/07/10
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"There is no progress. Everything is the same as it was. Form changes. The essence does not." RLS

3/13/13 11:47:34 AM#41
Originally posted by Xepo

  I have not yet played the game. I have read many of the comments and watched videos so far. I am failing to see much reference to the D&D elements in the game. I can see it looks like a nice combat game. It looks good graphic wise, but what about the D&D core elements? Where are they? Do they even exist in the game? I can tell already you won't be dual-classing (at least at launch). It appears there is no choice consequences (?). What about alignment? 

  I can see the game would be fun for maybe a month or so, but is there real D&D elements that will define your character and adventure?

    This. Excactly where im at. The foundry is what im waiting to see but really, seeing comments about DnD and arcade gameplay in the same sentence is really scaring me. How about investigative work, political intrigue, social skills, trap making and disarming, etc. I have seen a litle bit, but very put on the back burner'ish stuff.

Seems like DDO is light years ahead of this game in terms of actual DnD stuff and character development. Still, it does look fun.

  gaeanprayer

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3/13/13 12:43:03 PM#42

I on the other hand was incredibly disappointed in Neverwinter, and don't see it growing beyond a niche audience. For all intents and purposes, it's a stripped down DDO. The graphics are scattered in quality, the astral diamond necessities are out of control, non-instanced questing is KXY, the skill bar and system is extremely restrictive and there is ZERO class versatility.

Unlike a lot of people here who played for a couple of hours or just for a day, I played the whole weekend. I made it over level 30, into the Paragon Levels on my Cleric, to get a good feel for the game before making any kind of judgement. It's repetitive, and the immediate response of, "Oh hey, this is fun!" will begin to dim by 20 and by 30 it'll be gone entirely. Paragon levels don't much to change the gameplay, they decide your next 3 skills over the following 30 levels and that's pretty much it.

The class system is inferior to nearly every other Dungeons and Dragons game, the skill trees and class choices are inferior to Rift, the combat is inferior to GW2, the quests are inferior to TSW, the graphics ugh...take your pick. Even CO/STO are more attractive and they're by the same company, and older. I was one of those people that stood up for Cryptic where CO was concerned, but I think they missed the mark by miles with Neverwinter.

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  Rinna

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3/13/13 3:37:13 PM#43
My concerns are the same as the posters, along with the terrible art for faces/hair and dungeon loot rules needing a revisit. The game is nothing but linear and dungeons need a good balancing. Also, surprises in dungeons should be surprises, not big sparkly arrows pointing to the secret doors or instruction manuals on how to tilt a statue or flip a switch. Make people use their noodles.

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  Silvergryph

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Joined: 4/11/06
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3/13/13 3:39:58 PM#44
I found that the Control Wizard was affected more by my gear choices than my Trickster Rogue was. Once I equipped gear focused on just power and recovery and took feats for cooldown reduction and action point gain I felt really powerful. You also have to pay attention to what power you put in the Tab slot once you unlock it. That is your Spell Mastery slot and the each spell gains something different by being there. For example, Repel becomes multi-target which was a lot of fun and helped build action points quickly.
  discord235

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3/13/13 3:52:51 PM#45
I played the beta for this first time during this second weekend beta event. I played the CW to level 23. For the first few hours of play I was not that impressed. I had the same gripes as most people - not able to cast and move at the same time a la GW2, no mouse camera zoom (without hitting the B key while standing still) and the lame fingers sticking up all the time on your toon. After I got over all that (which honestly, wasn't THAT big of a deal) I really started to enjoy the game. It had a definite "D&D feel" which of course was a good thing. The visuals were great. Yes, the questing was very linear, but it's a themepark MMO, what do you expect? It was still a lot of FUN and that is most important to me. Yes, when I got new gear it looked quite similar to the gear I just had on. But once I got my companion (a la SWTOR) the game got even more interesting, combat-wise. You can have up to 3 companions (more with purchase) and level them up and swap them out depending on what you need (heals, tank, etc). I am very interested in what the crafting will be like, but all-in-all, I loved this game and it will definitely be my primary MMO (at least until ESO comes out - so it better come out SOON!) And the best thing is, it's FTP!! I considered spending the $60 cuz it was that good, but I already got the PC Gamer mount for free, so I will probably just spend the money on microtransactions. Anyway, I highly recommed this game and I can't wait for release!!

  neferith

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Joined: 3/29/11
Posts: 1

3/13/13 6:01:37 PM#46
I had lots of fun with the game I did a small group play with a buddy and now I'm going to be getting a founders pack cause I want to be in the next beta.....
I was able to get to level 12 with the control wizard.....and rocked the world.....I would like to see more role playing as that is what I'm used to for traditional dnd play......but other then that the story line is great and the battle sequence kept me intrigued.....
  gillrmn

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3/14/13 10:13:53 AM#47

Control Wizard was very fun but weak.

 

Especially stuff you could do with spell specialization (placing a spell in tab and making it different from normal spell) was cool. Repel can be used to push monsters off the cliff killing several of them including bosses in one blow in some maps (not all bosses and loot is lost). For example the cave maps in foundry had a kill volume if you fall down.

 

But otherwise, control wizard needs balancing.

 

p.s. And anybody reading this, if you are in beta weekend 3 dont forget to check my foundry quest "The Wild Moon(mote) Chase" if you like non-linear quests.

  JZSquared

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Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 1

3/17/13 3:23:35 PM#48
Originally posted by adam_nox
playing the game solo was amusing for a few levels, then boring as hell.  I suppose next beta weekend I should try to group, but it didn't seem like anyone else was looking for or leading any groups asking for people to join.  Worries me.

So why don't you make your own group and invite people? And there's always the skirmishes and group content where they put you into a group. And you can get into that as early as level six. Or do what my friend and I did. Got three other people to join us so we'd have a full group.

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