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  User Deleted
3/12/13 11:25:34 PM#21
Originally posted by gillrmn

Cash Shop - 1/10

I have to agree with all the comments on cash shop above. Astral DIamons are obtainable by doing most damage in end level dungeon, participating in contests with others etc. So they are more of a competition based reward. It is good, but you can not have common items like ID scrolls only available from Astral Diamonds and call it fair for a f2p game. Basic things like that should be available from drops. ID scrolls felt a lot like lockboxes - though not that bad.

Seriously, did you guys even play the game? ID scrolls ARE drops. The AD is just a sure fire way to get them.  And there are many ways to get ADs, from the skirmishes / competitions, to zone events and dungeons. You also get a MUCH higher amount of them at higher levels.

  User Deleted
3/12/13 11:27:01 PM#22
Originally posted by ozerinx

uhm... I got to lvl 30 is when I stopped on both control mage. And I did not have a shit ton of astral diamonds.. I barely had over 20k astral diamonds.. If it is so easy to get 750k please let me know what you guys were running over n over to get astral diamonds and then what items that dropped you were selling to get so much astral diamonds. Most drops were just the useless gold currency. 

 

also, it isn't making up numbers it is Neverwinter making up "valued at 549$" because when I looked at the shop none of the items were that expensive. Which is what lead me to think this is not going to be the official pricing. 

You get a lot more for higher level skirmishes / dungeons / events.

  User Deleted
3/12/13 11:28:29 PM#23
Originally posted by Toxia
Originally posted by grimfall
Originally posted by gillrmn
...

Sorry, I meant shop, but I typed drop.

 

They removed the ID scroll from shops (they are no longer available for gold, you have to buy them with Astral Diamonds - and they are very expensive).

 

You get them from drop but drop rate is very low.

This is incorrect.

I played to level 12 on Sunday.  They gave me 10 identify scrolls.  I am not sure if this is for all characters, or just a beta thing.

  I identified all the drops I needed to (potential upgrades) and ended up with 14 scrolls.  The same thing happened last beta weekend (played to level 30).

If you're a fool, and identify everything that you pick up, you'll need to buy the scrolls.  If you think about it, you'll be fine.

Always a red flag for me when comments like the one highlighted pop up. You went to level 30 in a weekend? is this x4 beta exp gain, or normal stuff? Do not want to play another 'couple months' game

Beta XP is higher than launch, but 1-30 will still be relatively fast. XP slows down at higher levels.

  Agrias34

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3/12/13 11:39:43 PM#24

Ok, so I'm seeing a lot about the cash shop here in this thread.  This is my take on it.

 

A lot of the things in the cash shop are very high in price.  You buy, for real money, 100 zen for $1 U.S. Dollar according to their website, lowest you can get is 500 zen for 5 dollar etc. all the way up to 5000 zen for 50 dollars blah blah.

 

So that makes the mounts which are 4000 zen basically cost 40 dollars, and pets/companions being anywhere from 1500 to 2500 being 15 - 25 dollars respectively.  This is expensive, yes, however, you have to realize that through astral diamonds, you can convert them into zen.  You do this through other players in the game.  The average price of 1 zen is roughly 200 astral diamonds.  So the 750,000 astral diamonds you get from the hero of the north pack translates into about 40 dollars, so you are basically paying for cash shop zen with this pack, just in the form of astral diamonds.

Like I said, even the totally free to play player can get any cash shop item they want without paying a dime because just by earning astral diamonds in game through questing, auctions, getting tips from the foundry etc. can all be converted into zen to spend on said items.  I can agree that they should make the prices relatively high or it wouldn't take much effort to eventually buy everything for free essentially.  Gotta make money somehow in order for them to pay for the game and servers etc.

  Allacore69

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3/12/13 11:43:50 PM#25


Originally posted by gillrmn

...
Sorry, I meant shop, but I typed drop.

 

They removed the ID scroll from shops (they are no longer available for gold, you have to buy them with Astral Diamonds - and they are very expensive).

 

You get them from drop but drop rate is very low.



wait wait wait dude during beta 2 I never dropped below 35 scrolls EVER. if anything you guys need to stop identifying items that do NOT pertain to your class. Identifying them does NOT make their value go any higher. I do not see how anybody was not getting enough scrolls. Plus your lock boxes give you 10 everytime you open them. I mean come on my guild bank has over 180 scrolls in it and only me and my buddy were depositing them (ie. only we had permission to withdraw and deposit)

and no we did not buy any with Astral Diamonds either. well he dosent have any and I spent mine on a horse lol

  Allacore69

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3/12/13 11:47:48 PM#26


Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by grimfall

Originally posted by gillrmn

...
Sorry, I meant shop, but I typed drop.   They removed the ID scroll from shops (they are no longer available for gold, you have to buy them with Astral Diamonds - and they are very expensive).   You get them from drop but drop rate is very low.
This is incorrect. I played to level 12 on Sunday.  They gave me 10 identify scrolls.  I am not sure if this is for all characters, or just a beta thing.   I identified all the drops I needed to (potential upgrades) and ended up with 14 scrolls.  The same thing happened last beta weekend (played to level 30). If you're a fool, and identify everything that you pick up, you'll need to buy the scrolls.  If you think about it, you'll be fine.
Always a red flag for me when comments like the one highlighted pop up. You went to level 30 in a weekend? is this x4 beta exp gain, or normal stuff? Do not want to play another 'couple months' game
Beta XP is higher than launch, but 1-30 will still be relatively fast. XP slows down at higher levels.

Don't forget that most people (like myself) did play for at least 15 hours a day!

  Allacore69

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3/12/13 11:49:48 PM#27


Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by ozerinx uhm... I got to lvl 30 is when I stopped on both control mage. And I did not have a shit ton of astral diamonds.. I barely had over 20k astral diamonds.. If it is so easy to get 750k please let me know what you guys were running over n over to get astral diamonds and then what items that dropped you were selling to get so much astral diamonds. Most drops were just the useless gold currency.    also, it isn't making up numbers it is Neverwinter making up "valued at 549$" because when I looked at the shop none of the items were that expensive. Which is what lead me to think this is not going to be the official pricing. 
You get a lot more for higher level skirmishes / dungeons / events.


OMG OR put stuff in the auction which you can only buy with Astral Diamonds. Which means when somebody buys your stuff you get astral diamonds. DING DING GET IT NOW?

  gillrmn

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Joined: 8/04/12
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3/13/13 12:21:05 AM#28

*sigh*

The starter box gives you some scrolls in the begining. When item drops are few and level curve is not steep, it is easy not to need it.

 

Basic items such as ID scroll should not be a cash shop exclusive item. That is my take on it. You are welcome to disagree - no need to get anxious about if I played the game or not . . .

  Allacore69

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3/13/13 12:57:14 AM#29


Originally posted by gillrmn
*sigh*

The starter box gives you some scrolls in the begining. When item drops are few and level curve is not steep, it is easy not to need it.

 

Basic items such as ID scroll should not be a cash shop exclusive item. That is my take on it. You are welcome to disagree - no need to get anxious about if I played the game or not . . .



I didn't mean to berate you or anything and I do apologize. I just get so worked up about the scrolls thing. I mean it only happens to like 5% of the people who played this weekend. People in my guild and other players who asked me for scrolls said, when I asked what happend to them, they stated that they were identifying everything they got even red items that do not pertain to their class. I mean thats a lot of item and can wear down scrolls fast. On a plus side I DO AGREE that they should NOT sell id scrolls for astral diamonds. I love this game but that to me is rediculus.

BTW thanks for your help in the forums in you Q&A (NDA) you know what i mean. I did it with like 12 min left of testing and it did not change and couldent figure out why. LOL
Now I know. Thank You.

P.S. it's @mandodo69 on the forums

  Ryukan

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Posts: 710

3/13/13 2:22:45 AM#30

I noticed that the nested chests you can unlock at certain levels always gave ID scrolls. Once I stopped ID'ing every single magi thing I looted the scrolls started to build up. I don't agree with selling them only via the astral diamonds/cash shop, but PWE is behind the scenes here and it doesn't surprise me at all.

I just sold all my un-ID'd stuff to the vendors for cheap, is there an astral diamond market on the AH for un-ID'd magic stuff?

  Allacore69

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3/13/13 2:47:25 AM#31


Originally posted by Ryukan
I noticed that the nested chests you can unlock at certain levels always gave ID scrolls. Once I stopped ID'ing every single magi thing I looted the scrolls started to build up. I don't agree with selling them only via the astral diamonds/cash shop, but PWE is behind the scenes here and it doesn't surprise me at all.

I just sold all my un-ID'd stuff to the vendors for cheap, is there an astral diamond market on the AH for un-ID'd magic stuff?



yes their are venders in the market square that do magic and weps and armor and all kinds of stuff.

  kyssari

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3/13/13 3:03:21 AM#32

Graphics -- I dont mind the graphics at all, they actually seemed a lot better than other Cryptic games I have played in the past, the problem was with the character models themselves which seem unfinished so hopefully they will look far better come launch.

 

Cash Shop -- The whoel Astral Diamond thing actually doesn't seem nearly as bad as I expected it to be after playing other Cryptic games with similiar systems. While praying didn't reward very many they were easy to obtain and during the Skirmishes event I was getting 1000 AD from doing Blacklake Skirmishes, I was able to quickly rack up quite a few AD for my lvl during that 1hr event. Then you got numerous other events and other methods of obtaining AD so it really doesn't seem to bad but one can onhly speculate how it'll work out at endgame with the rate of acquisition vs need for em.

 

Classes -- I have to agree the classes seem very limited at the moment and they could seriously use a few more before launch but as for the current ones ingame we can only speculate on how much variety we will have as we haven't seen all the Paragon Paths that will be available at 30+ yet. So far we only have 1 Paragon path for each class, that I saw at least, so theres no telling how different the Paragons will be from each other. That being said when I hit 30 and started my CW Paragon as a Spellstorm Wizard I didn't feel any different at all as the only thing that changed was the acquisition of one new At-Will power. I didn't get any further than that however so we can only hope as you progress further into the paragons the changes will be felt a lot more.

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