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  botrytis

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3/05/13 3:34:29 PM#41
Originally posted by Praetalus
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

I don't expect Neverwinter's going to do that well, personally.  I could be wrong, but it looks very 'been there done that'.

I disagree. It looks different then most MMO's I've played lately combat-wise. 

I disagree - using Perfectworld as the publisher will doom this game. I have never liked any game they have put out.

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  nbtscan

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3/05/13 3:42:26 PM#42

I guess they don't really have anything to lose if they don't release any expansions.  I have no idea what it cost to develop GW2, but at 3 million sells at 60 bucks a pop (some of them are more for the collector's pack) I'd hope that'd net them a pretty good profit.

I think it'd be a weird philosophy to just keep releasing small content patches instead of an expansion you can charge for though.  If you're not going to expand on the game then you're going to have to move onto developing something totally new to bring in more money.

  Kuppa

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3/05/13 3:43:28 PM#43
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

Using the term "continue to bust out content" implies that have been continusly busting out content sincle launch...which...they have not been, thus, this is sad news.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

Ya, they haven't....


  doodphace

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Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1222

3/05/13 3:46:39 PM#44
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

Using the term "continue to bust out content" implies that have been continusly busting out content sincle launch...which...they have not been, thus, this is sad news.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

Ya, they haven't....

Ya, that spells our cleary that they have been among the best in addressing issues/bugs/game fixes...but actual content updates, huge gap...

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

3/05/13 3:50:06 PM#45
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

Using the term "continue to bust out content" implies that have been continusly busting out content sincle launch...which...they have not been, thus, this is sad news.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

Ya, they haven't....

Ya, that spells our cleary that they have been among the best in addressing issues/bugs/game fixes...but actual content updates, huge gap...

every month since oct has been a content patch.. the holiday events were large content patches just the content wasn't permanent but still large content patches nonetheless.. 

this is easier way to see

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/october-2012/ can use the bar up top to scroll through the months

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  doodphace

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3/05/13 3:52:31 PM#46
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

Using the term "continue to bust out content" implies that have been continusly busting out content sincle launch...which...they have not been, thus, this is sad news.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

Ya, they haven't....

Ya, that spells our cleary that they have been among the best in addressing issues/bugs/game fixes...but actual content updates, huge gap...

every month since oct has been a content patch.. the holiday events were large content patches just the content wasn't permanent but still large content patches nonetheless.. 

Every month has had a monumental amount of fixes/game design changes, can you please copy paste all the added content each month?

I literally though you were linking that to show everyone the lack of content...if you linked that to somehow show "all the content updates", I really feel sympathy.

Not to crap on the Haloween update, it was indeed pretty badass, but using conent that can no longer be accessed to prove content updates, is quite a desprate grasp. If there were so many large updates, you should be able to off hand mention something other than a no longer accessable holiday event lol.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

3/05/13 3:53:38 PM#47
duplicate

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Teh_Axi

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Joined: 9/21/08
Posts: 403

3/05/13 3:56:58 PM#48

There is an xpac in the works, I dont have proof and I dont need it.

Its just a simple fact.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

3/05/13 4:04:08 PM#49
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

Using the term "continue to bust out content" implies that have been continusly busting out content sincle launch...which...they have not been, thus, this is sad news.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

Ya, they haven't....

Ya, that spells our cleary that they have been among the best in addressing issues/bugs/game fixes...but actual content updates, huge gap...

every month since oct has been a content patch.. the holiday events were large content patches just the content wasn't permanent but still large content patches nonetheless.. 

Every month has had a monumental amount of fixes/game design changes, can you please copy paste all the added content each month?

I literally though you were linking that to show everyone the lack of content...if you linked that to somehow show "all the content updates", I really feel sympathy.

Not to crap on the Haloween update, it was indeed pretty badass, but using conent that can no longer be accessed to prove content updates, is quite a desprate grasp. If there were so many large updates, you should be able to off hand mention something other than a no longer accessable holiday event lol.

the halloween event offered more stuff to do than most large content patches in MMOs so its pretty relevant even if it was a one time thing as I'm sure it took them a good deal of time to do and was very elaborate overall.. and again all the updates are in the link I posted above.. i been playing these MMOs forever and never played one(even Rift) that has brought out as much new stuff as GW2 in such a short amount of time.

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  NaughtyP

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Posts: 795

3/05/13 5:20:03 PM#50
If they actually fix the big problems it's probably a good thing. Lots to fix though.

Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

  Kuppa

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3/05/13 7:19:28 PM#51
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

Using the term "continue to bust out content" implies that have been continusly busting out content sincle launch...which...they have not been, thus, this is sad news.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

Ya, they haven't....

Ya, that spells our cleary that they have been among the best in addressing issues/bugs/game fixes...but actual content updates, huge gap...

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadow_of_the_Mad_King

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Lost_Shores

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flame_and_Frost:_Prelude

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flame_and_Frost:_The_Gathering_Storm

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wintersday_2012

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Temple_of_the_Silent_Storm

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spirit_Watch

 

There are more, if you would like to look for yourself.


  fiontar

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Joined: 4/07/04
Posts: 3687

3/05/13 9:54:06 PM#52

I have to admit I'm totally confused by this news. We know afrer launch they broke the staff up into smaller units, one for ongoing core game development, one for live content and, I thought, almost half the company was working on expansion content.

It sounds to me like they have had half the company working on the getting game ready for release in the East, rather than working on an expansion. I actually had assumed that NCSoft would Easternize the game with it's own staff, with some supervision from Arenanet, not have Arenanet waste half it's resources doing the conversion?!?!?!

I'm really confused.

If their artists/modelers haven't been working on an expansion, what the heck have they been working on? It certainly isn't the Live Content. (Well, obviously, some modelers/artists are working on that, but we aren't seeing a company's worth of work output). It also isn't Gem Store weapon/armor skins, another area where they have fallen flat on their faces vs. expectations. Are they making Easternized armor, weapons and character models?

I don't get it.

I'm a huge fan of the game and still having a lot of fun playing, but any excuses I've made for the disappointment in the ongoing development of the game hinged on the assumption that half of Arenanet was hard at work on an expansion. If that's not the case, I'm befuddled.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  azzamasin

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3/05/13 11:00:35 PM#53
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

The main thing I am looking at for expansion material are new classes, I hear the first GW1 was wonderful with that.  The other being brand new lands to explore.  So much of the current map is not being used and is begging for new zones to be made.  If they can pull that off in content updates I'll be fine but sadly I think thsoe are to huge a hurdle and are more suited for expansion materials. 

 

Sadly with this news, it becomes more apparent my time in GW2 is growing shorter as we move ever closer to NWO and ESO release.  Agree with you about NWO (although it is a catchy game and could sneak up and continue to grow) but ESO is the next monster in waiting.  Now I am not saying it's gonna be the next WoW so dont take my remarks out of context but I would bet a lifetimes paycheck that it will sell more then GW2 ever dreamed of.

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  Kuinn

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3/06/13 12:27:13 AM#54

Seems foolish from business perspective. Personally I like to see expansions on games that I play, it's so exciting when the game gets closer to a big expansion and then you get a ton of treats at once. I also sometimes go back to check on an older game I've played when they release expansion, not going to happen with just some meaty patch.

 

Though there's the downside since the big expansions has the possibility to ruin something in a single massive blow. Blizzard is very good at making their game worse every expansion, for me at least, seems though like there's a perfectly nice bunch of happy customers too :)

  KhinRunite

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3/06/13 12:40:20 AM#55
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by azzamasin
Really really sad news and it is rather masochist of Anet to think their sales will continue under the withering assault of future releases like Neverwinter and especially Elder Scrolls Online.

Well, if they continue to bust out content I would be just as happy. Don't really see a "sad" part. As a business move it seems silly though.

 

Neverwinter I don't believe will cause a big dent on any game and TESO will probably be short lived.

Using the term "continue to bust out content" implies that have been continusly busting out content sincle launch...which...they have not been, thus, this is sad news.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

Ya, they haven't....

Ya, that spells our cleary that they have been among the best in addressing issues/bugs/game fixes...but actual content updates, huge gap...

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadow_of_the_Mad_King

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Lost_Shores

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flame_and_Frost:_Prelude

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flame_and_Frost:_The_Gathering_Storm

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wintersday_2012

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Temple_of_the_Silent_Storm

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spirit_Watch

 

There are more, if you would like to look for yourself.

I don't think he's counting content that cannot be replayed right here, right now. I don't know why though. I didn't experience the Halloween jumping puzzle, but that doesn't mean it wasn't an added content. It just made the content more special, as it wasn't experienced by everybody.

  jpnz

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3/06/13 12:44:56 AM#56

Something doesn't add up.

This is what NCSOFT said in their conference call about the GW2 expansion on Nov-2012

In terms of the Guild War 2 expansion pack, that also in line with the China launch are the two big events that we have for next year and for right now, internally, we are in the process of trying to coordinate those two events.

If I am up-to-date on my financial compliance laws, you can not lie in an earnings conference call. So either we have ANet's parent company NCSoft being lied to by ANet or something else is going on.

It is also perfectly feasible ANet wants to squash any 'exp' talk to boost their base GW2 sales.

Either way, someone is lying and my guess is that NCSoft isn't the one lying since that one carries jail-time.

Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  Loke666

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3/06/13 12:51:00 AM#57
Originally posted by Eir_S
I've been wondering lately how many new classes there will be in the first xpac.  There's three of everything except heavy armor classes so far, but didn't each GW1 xpac introduce more than one new class?

GW2 had 2 extra campaigns and one expansion. The 2 campaigns had 2 new classes each, the expansion none.

I think it is likely that GW2s expansion instead will have 1 new class and one new race.

I am more interested if they plan to make a new campaign (Cantha? Elona?) or if they want to add more content like the ring of fire to Tyria.

  reef22

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3/06/13 1:15:38 AM#58

I don't anticipate a campaign/expansion until this September or even later.  

The original GW came out back in April 2005 and it didn't have the first campaign until April 2006.  Back in those days, GW didn't even have an in-game shop to supplement them financially.  They had enough money to last them a whole year before the first campaign came out.

Now in GW 2, not only they have the in-game store but also the money they've made since 2005.  So I don't think they're hurting for money and need the money bad enough to push out an expansion pack or campaign only 6 months after releasing GW 2.

I might be wrong but I don't think there is a B2P or P2P game releases new expansion pack  just 6 months after the main game came out.

  Loke666

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3/06/13 1:21:02 AM#59
Originally posted by reef22

I don't anticipate a campaign/expansion until this September or even later.  

The original GW came out back in April 2005 and it didn't have the first campaign until April 2006.  Back in those days, GW didn't even have an in-game shop to supplement them financially.  They had enough money to last them a whole year before the first campaign came out.

Now in GW 2, not only they have the in-game store but also the money they've made since 2005.  So I don't think they're hurting for money and need the money bad enough to push out an expansion pack or campaign only 6 months after releasing GW 2.

I might be wrong but I don't think there is a B2P or P2P game releases new expansion pack  just 6 months after the main game came out.

The team now on the other hand is 10 times larger so the question is just how much money they cn bring in on the gemstore.

I assume there will be an expansion out late this year, unless the Chinese launch will be during the summer and really earn in cash, then they can probably wait and run Wows 2 years between each expansion time.

  bcbully

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3/06/13 1:26:13 AM#60

This has to be a downer to some. Again this harkens back to GW2 maybe costing more than we might hink. If the profit margin isn't right, they wont be in any hurry to do it again. 

 

 

 

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