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  emikochan

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2/27/13 10:10:13 AM#21
Originally posted by patlefort
Originally posted by Popori
Originally posted by cronius77
some of the people defending this garbage is borderline pedos . If it quacks like a duck it is a duck.....seriously make all the rational arguments you want to about this crap if you want to see half naked little kid pixels you are borderline pedo . Say Korean Art asian beauty , whatever you wish but its still images made to look like KIDS half naked. Live in your fantasy world all you wish but go ahead and get caught with images similiar to that and see where you end up.

And if you go around murdering people in a game you're a murderer, right?

or is that the other standard?

Not that I care if it's censored or not, but lets pick a side and try to stick to it.  Either you are what you game or you're not.

Do you play games for the sake of murdering people? I can however guarantee that 90% of people who pick this class will do because of its look.

and many people play an mmo for the combat system. It goes both ways. I'm an artist and I think censorship is pointless in something that's already M, regardless of what it is. It's just insulting to the legitimate players.

 

Either way they could at least have censored it in an artistic way, like with tera they don't look completely out of place.

  User Deleted
3/03/13 6:55:24 PM#22

Its disgusting.  Just like it was disgusting in tera.  You over sexualize each and every character model...then toss in a 12 year old into the mix and sexualize them...oops...lets put some bunny ears on that and call it a fantasy alien race of adults right?

I cant belive people are upset about this either...actuall...i can now that i think about it...some sick people in this world out there.

 

  Robokapp

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3/03/13 6:57:57 PM#23
Originally posted by cronius77
some of the people defending this garbage is borderline pedos . If it quacks like a duck it is a duck.....seriously make all the rational arguments you want to about this crap if you want to see half naked little kid pixels you are borderline pedo . Say Korean Art asian beauty , whatever you wish but its still images made to look like KIDS half naked. Live in your fantasy world all you wish but go ahead and get caught with images similiar to that and see where you end up.

on 4chan ?

  Yamota

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3/03/13 7:01:39 PM#24
Originally posted by couponfork
Asians should stop being such perverted 12 year old boys and there would be nothing to censor. I don't even understand how these games are appealing, who wants to watch a bunch of naked animations running around? We have XTube for a reason.

I agree. I dont understand this excessive need that asian producers have to sexualize teens. It is unfitting, disturbing and not to mention just plain out silly. Unless the games are designed for a young teen in mind.

  Ryowulf

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3/03/13 7:09:58 PM#25
They shouldn't sexualize children.  Is it that hard to understand?
  Robokapp

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3/03/13 7:52:10 PM#26
Originally posted by Ryowulf
They shouldn't sexualize children.  Is it that hard to understand?

it is. because they can do as they please wih their artwork. No children were sexualized in the making of this game.

 

 

  aRtFuLThinG

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3/03/13 8:34:20 PM#27
Originally posted by patlefort

By this logic, western girls must look like old hags at 25 year olds to them?

 Actually, they do.

Western women age terribly by Eastern standards. If you compare Western women at 35 vs Asian women at 35 you will see that a lot of Asian women still look like they are by western standards 25-28 years old where as the western women looks like they are 40-45 years old by Asian standards.

That's why a lot of times Westerners can't really tell how old Asians are.

 

Quite beside the discussion of the main article, but just thought I point out your unintentionally accurate comment.

  GranDux

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Joined: 3/05/13
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3/05/13 5:10:40 PM#28

Mind if the contents of mature games who aren't blood and gore offends every ill-begotten prude who mix fiction and the unreal with reality and real-world in this country. Anyone with a rational mind can clearly understand that no persons or real people are harmed in the creation or making of a video-game or any real persons hurt in playing a class on a video-game. It's just the same mainly prudish and illogical debates raised towards the issue of violence in video-games. Violence in games cause mass murders, so mature games cause rapists and wife-beaters etc etc.

Should or should something be censored because others find offense of it? Or should consumers be empowered and allowed to choose what games they want to play voluntarily without censors involved? Is artwork in games regarded as freedom of speech or not regardless if the content is suitable or agreeable for some, and may not for others(that's the main reason why the rating ESRB system exist) or disagreeable? We are all free to choose whatever games we please, and not buy or play the ones we don't like. That stops when game-companies nit-pick and decide what's best for us and give us no choice in the process be it toggles or no toggles, censored or uncensored. Some just want the full and unadultered game experience because it gives them their money's worth and makes the game feel like a true, M-rated or AO game. Not half of one or a kiddified one.

Just with Tera the censorship will still be both idiotic and stupid for years to come. The elins were serverly demonized yet at the same time game companies can release uncensored outfits like bathingsuits in a cash-shop at an extra fee to players with no quarrels about the very designs that's been ham-fisted in pasty censors to the entire game. Even the current censors on sentinel now look a step closer to what the k-tera elins were but not quiet.

The games are not the problem. It is simply those in this country who cannot handle the concept of mature-themed games who justify these pointless and fear-mongering censors. Then game-companies making themselves out to be giant E/T rated nanny-sitters with censors instead of allowing those to choose what games are and not appropriate under their own roofs to appeal to prudes or those who just have problems with games having any hint of being sexy period be it elins or sentinels castanics or Lineage 2 female dwarves or just about any korean or japanese game that doesn't revolve around buckets of gore and blood.

As much as the games are easily censored it's ironic both the television and books of the same mature rating are uncensored. Yet they sit on North-American shelves and stores. See example below. There are many others out there like this as well too yet they are available upon your shores and still sold in stores:

 

 

Now you may or may not like the show, maybe not even the characters or themes and hate the entire show itself. That is fine everyone is entilted to like or dislike things. But does it still mean if some are offended at it should be butchered and hacked in censors? I don't think so. And if a game offends me that much, I'll just simply play another game that doesn't have it just as I have the choice of listening to the type of music I like and avoiding the ones I don't like. There's hundreds of fully-covered T and E and half-baked M-rated games out there, choose what is liked.

I'm not playing SB but it's sorry to see others that game-players don't really have the same choice to them available in the content of what mature games they want to play or not because in the end children are used as an exclusive external excuse to censor almost everything on the planet be it boobs to mesh-made cat-girls with pixel belly buttons in 3D game worlds. Just as they are now in attempts to ban and censor violent video-games that weren't made for them through the violent videogame fiasco.

Protecting children in the real-world from the real harms and dangers present in ever-changing society is good and very reasonable of course. But when censorship comes in as an excuse to remove content from voluntary and purchasable M+17 and up games is when it's pointless and just there to satisfy those who dislike these type of games, just as the issue of boobs being censored in the past and blood. These games aren't made for young kids or easily offended, they were 18+ adult games from Korea made for an older audience but lack the adult content that would actually make them 18+ in North America.

I'm probably thick-skinned or have relaxed views on the concept of sexyness in games but it takes a lot more than just cat-girls or geneticaly enhanced cyborg females in bathing-suit armors running around blowing kisses and hornd elves in doing dances in videogames to be offensive to me. And the content in videogames shows and books aren't one of them.

  vzerov

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3/06/13 6:52:00 AM#29

I am a asian, an no its not our culture.

Its some kind of sub-culture for some pervert asians ofcourse, but guys , please, stop saying we need to respect this shit because its the culture of asians. Its not.

For most of us, I mean asians, its pervert, 100%.

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
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3/06/13 7:04:56 AM#30
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Ryowulf
They shouldn't sexualize children.  Is it that hard to understand?

it is. because they can do as they please wih their artwork. No children were sexualized in the making of this game.

That is right, comparing something that really hurts kids with animations is unfair to real kids. There is plenty of real disgusting child pornography and comparing stuff like this with it is very dangerous (it is kinda like saying weed and crack are just as bad since they both are drugs ignoring how many people crack actually kill each year).

Still, it is rather tasteless and I doubt many people really want it so they might as well have skipped it from the start.

  GranDux

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Joined: 3/05/13
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3/06/13 7:45:30 AM#31
Originally posted by vzerov

I am a asian, an no its not our culture.

Its some kind of sub-culture for some pervert asians ofcourse, but guys , please, stop saying we need to respect this shit because its the culture of asians. Its not.

For most of us, I mean asians, its pervert, 100%.

I wouldn't really expect being respected as a people from those who have a tendency and judgemental history to look down at anything that is not "them". Regardless of imaginary shows videogames and whatnot they will still think what they think of asians period be it Pearl Harbor or based upon real-life apperances as a few posters have already demostrated towards korean females or other asian ethnicities.

 

Some asians may like m-rated games, some may not just as non-asians may like it and others not. That fine.  Regardless it is still artwork with an older audience rating created by artists. No real persons are hurt or harm in the creation of video-games. Just as a zombie-movie harms no real persons or a mature-book harms no living and breathing persons.

Find it most hypocritical that video-games are easily censored when meant for an older audiences but at same real kids are allowed to R-rated movies that are full with scenes of gore violence and or sex that are not meant for younger audiences. Link below.

http://www.mademan.com/mm/rated-r-movie-ticket-rules.html

Censoring video-games will not deterrent or stop any of the growing and problematic real-life teen-sex and pregnancies from happening which has gone on for ages regardless of the creation of games or not. That is more a parental issue.

Nor does censoring things will do anything to prevent or punish those who commit real-life crimes against real people. Just as censoring violent violent games does nothing to those who commit mass-murders. Only lunatics commit crimes to began with as seen with the batman shootings, the sandy hooks the virginia techs ect. The average person does not do these things but the censors want to put the blame on games as justification that yes, playing games contribute to these things when they clearly do not.

 

  Doogiehowser

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3/06/13 7:55:33 AM#32
Originally posted by GranDux
Originally posted by vzerov

I am a asian, an no its not our culture.

Its some kind of sub-culture for some pervert asians ofcourse, but guys , please, stop saying we need to respect this shit because its the culture of asians. Its not.

For most of us, I mean asians, its pervert, 100%.

I wouldn't really expect being respected as a people from those who have a tendency and judgemental history to look down at anything that is not "them". Regardless of imaginary shows videogames and whatnot they will still think what they think of asians period be it Pearl Harbor or based upon real-life apperances as a few posters have already demostrated towards korean females or other asian ethnicities or any other etchnicities really.

 Some asians may like it, some may not just as non-asians may like it and others not. That is okay.  Regardless it is still a international medium and artwork for those of different audiences and expressions created by artists. No real persons are hurt or harm in the creation of video-games. Just as creating a zombie-movie harms no real persons or a comic-book harms no living and breathing persons.

Find it most hypocritical that they do censor these things meant for an older audiences to began with but at same don't mind sending real kids to R-rated movies that are full with scenes of gore violence and or sex. Censoring video-games will detorrent or stop any of the growing and problematic real-life teen-sex and pregnancies from happening which has gone on for ages regardless of the creation of games or not. That is a parental issue.

Nor does censoring things that aren't liked will do anything to prevent or punish those who commit real-life crimes against real people. Just as censoring violent games does nothing to those who commit mass-murders. Only lunatics and the mentally disturbed do these things to began with as seen with the batman shootings, the sandy hooks the virginia techs ect. The average person does not do these things but the censors want to put the blame on games as justification.

I am sure old  and mature audience look for more substance in their games than just half naked chicks with big boobs. You make these 'old audience' sound like sexless horny crowd who only care for the nudity.

I however i believe that a grown up (and mature) individual  would never take  these kind of games seriously and games like this in end mostly attract teenage crowd and underaged kids.

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  GranDux

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3/06/13 8:27:19 AM#33
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by GranDux
Originally posted by vzerov

I am a asian, an no its not our culture.

Its some kind of sub-culture for some pervert asians ofcourse, but guys , please, stop saying we need to respect this shit because its the culture of asians. Its not.

For most of us, I mean asians, its pervert, 100%.

I wouldn't really expect being respected as a people from those who have a tendency and judgemental history to look down at anything that is not "them". Regardless of imaginary shows videogames and whatnot they will still think what they think of asians period be it Pearl Harbor or based upon real-life apperances as a few posters have already demostrated towards korean females or other asian ethnicities or any other etchnicities really.

 Some asians may like it, some may not just as non-asians may like it and others not. That is okay.  Regardless it is still a international medium and artwork for those of different audiences and expressions created by artists. No real persons are hurt or harm in the creation of video-games. Just as creating a zombie-movie harms no real persons or a comic-book harms no living and breathing persons.

Find it most hypocritical that they do censor these things meant for an older audiences to began with but at same don't mind sending real kids to R-rated movies that are full with scenes of gore violence and or sex. Censoring video-games will detorrent or stop any of the growing and problematic real-life teen-sex and pregnancies from happening which has gone on for ages regardless of the creation of games or not. That is a parental issue.

Nor does censoring things that aren't liked will do anything to prevent or punish those who commit real-life crimes against real people. Just as censoring violent games does nothing to those who commit mass-murders. Only lunatics and the mentally disturbed do these things to began with as seen with the batman shootings, the sandy hooks the virginia techs ect. The average person does not do these things but the censors want to put the blame on games as justification.

I am sure old  and mature audience look for more substance in their games than just half naked chicks with big boobs. You make these 'old audience' sound like sexless horny crowd who only care for the nudity.

I however i believe that a grown up (and mature) individual  would never take  these kind of games seriously and games like this in end mostly attract teenage crowd and underaged kids.

Hi there I updated posts if you wish to responde.

A mature audience can expect more to a decent and working quality game than just initial themes(combat,storyline, character development, environment, music ect these are in combination to make a game memorable or a ill-begotten flop) but also it is expected for a M-rated game to be mature in it's fullness and not scaled back in content. I have no issue of mesh skin or other themes in older-rated games and up.

I do not take video-games seriously because I know that they are fake and voluntary to play with the most unrealistic environments and characters to boot. However when censorship comes along as justification is when the real-world is forced into the non-real and fake game-world.  Either the games are real, or they are not. Either they are fake, or they are not. When issue of  censorship comes it is blaming and says yes, the games are real and playing these games are no good regardless of the rating assigned to them or not.

  JasonJ

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3/19/13 7:44:10 PM#34
Originally posted by snapfusion

Nice spin, but at the end of the day it means nothing. Their game conent is still perverse.  Red is red black is black have a nice day.

 And Age of Conan had its bare boobs, stories of rape and women being nothing more than being there for the pleasures of men, a cult based on sex...

Oh wait, im sorry, we are generalizing about THIS game silly me.

  Malamasala

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3/24/13 4:59:43 PM#35
Originally posted by Ryowulf
They shouldn't sexualize children.  Is it that hard to understand?

Take the Sentinel as an example.

 

Before censorship, she is a naked 18 year old bioengineered woman.

After censorship, she is a naked 18 year old bioengineered woman.

The difference? Before she was attractive, after she is ugly. And for some reason people like to claim that when Sentinels were attractive, it was wrong, and now that they are ugly (but still naked children), it is OK because nobody could find them sexy now.

In other words. Most people don't give a damn about the children's feelings or situation, they are just obsessed with fighting the creepy pedos and make sure pedos suffer from having eye candy removed. After all, if they did care about children, wouldn't they be donating to child organizations instead of play MMOs for the money?

If these people got their will through in real life, every girl would be born ugly, because it would solve all pedo problems. Then when they turn 18 they can get plastic surgery and become a good looking size D boobed woman, as all men deserve.

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