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  Ryowulf

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3/03/13 12:24:56 PM#41
I could see EQnext coming to the PS4. It would be a great selling point for the console.  Then later when sales start to dip, bring it to the pc. Win/win
  bestever

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3/03/13 12:55:44 PM#42

Sony isn't going console only and you will see that soon enough. What I do see from the PS4 system specs is that they are going to integrate soe.com into the system so you can play all those F2P game on PS4 and that's a smart move. I can see them bringing mmo's to the console so they can expand player base and increase revenue from that market but at the sametime to cut what revenue they get from PC, now that would hurt sony big time. 

Thats pretty much forcing people to the ps4 which I don't see them doing. EQnext will be on pc because theres no reason for them to give up the pc market. So you keep pc market and expand to the ps4 and increase you player base and possibly your revenue since most those games are f2p.

Also someone said its cheaper to build games for the console well thats just not true, you need a dev kit to make games for consoles and thats not cheap. I'm sorry but its much cheaper to build the game for pc then port. Thats why sony moved away from the SPU and back to normal pc specs. Its easier to code for x86 cpus or APUs which sony has.

  bcbully

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3/03/13 12:59:40 PM#43
Damnit giving $570 to sony this year...
  Muke

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3/03/13 1:01:58 PM#44


Originally posted by xpowderx

So now we know the silence towards the MMORPG PC community. It seems that SOE is going console. Whats your opinion of this? By the way, the PS4 specs are pretty uber even to some PCs.


Could only hope that this is true, don't play console games so I never get to see them again lol.

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  Theocritus

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3/03/13 1:04:09 PM#45
If this is true I have zero interest......SOE has always been abotu the money though and if they feel they can make more on a console then they will do it......I jstu have no interest whatsoever in playing MMOs on a console...The format is jsut too limited.
  rwyan

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3/03/13 1:05:35 PM#46

I have high doubts the OPs "prediction" will ever come to fruition...  First, in order for this to work, the PS4 would have to have a sizeable enough install base just to make releasing a MMO exclusively on the PS4 feasible.  If commercials are planned for october, then that would mean EQNext is releasing late 2013/early 2014... the same window the PS4 launches.  That would just spell disaster for any MMO (launching in a fairly limited market niche of an already limited market).  Doesn't make sense.  If anything, I could see them doing a PS4-exclusive beta.

 

Now, if someone told me SOE was planning on launching EQ Next in late 2014, and doing a timed exclusive release on the PS4... I could believe that.

  achesoma

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3/03/13 1:06:50 PM#47

Aren't the next gen consoles essentially PC-based systems anyway?  So this really isn't beyond the realm of possiblity.  Plus, consoles don't have all the other resource hogs that typical PCs have to deal with.  I would imagine it's far easier for developers to make games knowing that all their customers have the exact same specs.  Whoever successfully taps into the console market with a good quality MMO will be the next WoW.  I know some EQ followers that would be willing to "sell-out" and go console if EQnext is good enough.

 

On a side note.  When I saw this, I immediately thought of the "uncle" post on the SWG forums talking about the upcoming NGE lol.  Everyone thought he was a crazy troll and he turned out to be dead on. 

  jpnz

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3/03/13 1:08:56 PM#48

It makes sense in a 'political' kind of way actually.

If Sony HQ wants their studios to only develope for their 'next big thing; PS4' SOE will comply.

Console isn't a big market though; PS3 / Xbox sold 75-85M each in their lifetime which is now what 8 years?

PC sold 90M in just the last quarter and that was the lowest quarter since 2001 after 9/11.

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  Swiftrevoir

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3/03/13 1:08:58 PM#49
EQOA was my first mmorpg and a stellar one at that.  I wouldn't mind playing on a console to see what they're doing with the game.  My gaming life has been near devoid of any console activity for years and since EQOA went down I haven't had much reason to return.  While I doubt it will remain console only, if there's a large gap between the two releases I'd be happy to have a nostalgic console mmo romp.
  Skuz

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3/03/13 1:10:18 PM#50
  xpowderx

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OP  3/03/13 1:12:50 PM#51
 

The sad thing is in my OP. I never stated it would not go to the PC. I am guessing some cannot even read a full paragraph before posting negative commentry.

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  Xthos

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3/03/13 1:21:44 PM#52

Well, we will be seeing EQNext in 5 months in a playable form supposedly. I highly doubt that SoE will not have this for PC, and for console only first.  If anything they may try to port a version to console, and have a dual release.  They said that EQ2 was designed for very high end systems (people have stated that it is very CPU dependant, that they thought the processors would keep climbing speed wise, and such, so they guessed wrong), so not that it will be made for super low systems, but that it would not take a brand new high end rig to play it.

 

So from what we have heard about the new console systems, they could probably run it, even if the graphics had to be set a little lower for the console versions.  So I wouldn't discount it in that sense, but the biggest thing I can think of that would sink the console rumor is that they said they were making it more sandbox....I do not see the console market and more sandbox going hand in hand.

 

I am excited about more sandbox, but I think porting PS2 would be more effective for the new PS4, over EQNext, if you are targeting console players.

 

Either way, I am excited to see the debut of EQNext in 4-5 months (5 if they keep it under wraps till their faire).

 

  Hedeon

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3/03/13 1:22:06 PM#53
Originally posted by xpowderx
 

The sad thing is in my OP. I never stated it would not go to the PC. I am guessing some cannot even read a full paragraph before posting negative commentry.

you state it wont be coming out for a while on PC, also making a titles saying console only! what do you expect, I cant see your thread as anything but trolling/being miss informed

but we will see I guess, EQnext is supposed to be released this year, and have yet to be announced as a PS title - what we do know is they use the same engine as planetside 2, which they apparently havent been able to make a PS3 port of

  Loktofeit

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3/03/13 2:06:01 PM#54
Originally posted by xpowderx
 

The sad thing is in my OP. I never stated it would not go to the PC...

...except in the title that - prior to the convenient edit recently made - only said "SOE going console only!"

  Sengi

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3/03/13 2:24:43 PM#55

This makes sense to me. I already wondered why SOE did not release anything jet about their “greatest sandbox of all times” that shall be released this year. At least put up a website. If it is a launch title for the PS4 this all would make sense. And yes, limiting a game to one consol only is no good idea, so I guess EQN would then also release on other platforms afterwards.

Maybe the next console circle will bring something like the rebirth of the home computer, a modern version of a non PC gaming-computer like the Amiga 500 or the Atari ST. It could well be that it comes with keyboard and mouse or some tablet-thing that serves the same purpose.

But if Everquest Next is a console only title now, that whole sandbox thing sounds to me more like it is going to be a sword and sorcery version of Planetside 2. One can call that type of game a sandbox too.

And never trust John Smedley, he I just a suit and does not care for his games or his gamers but only for the money.

  Quizzical

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3/03/13 2:33:28 PM#56

This strikes me as plausible.  Remember that SOE is part of Sony, and Sony wants lots of people to buy a PS4, in order to get game developers to make games for it.  And in particular, to buy a PS4 rather than a next generation Xbox.  Console-exclusive games are one way to do that, and if EverQuest Next was going to launch around the same time as the PS4, then making it in initially a PS4-only game makes some sense.

I would, however, be very surprised if the game is forever PS4-only and doesn't eventually get ported to PC.

  Quizzical

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3/03/13 2:42:27 PM#57
Originally posted by shamus252
Originally posted by xpowderx

Advanced Micro Devices on Thursday revealed additional details about the system-on-chip that powers Sony Corp.’s PlayStation 4 video game console. According to AMD, the accelerated processing unit inside the PS4 is the company’s first design win with semi-custom APU for high-volume applications with multi-year lifespan.

The highly-integrated Sony PlayStation 4 system-on-chip integrates eight AMD x86 Jaguar cores, custom AMD Radeon HD core with unified array of 18 AMD GCN-like compute units (1152 stream processors which collectively generate 1.84TFLOPS of computer power that can freely be applied to graphics, simulation tasks, or some mixture of the two), various special-purpose blocks as well as multi-channel GDDR5 memory controller.

It's not a true 8 core system, it's a quad core with 4 logical cores to give it 8.

Nonsense.  AMD has never been a fan of hyperthreading, and with Bulldozer and its successors explicitly went a different route, duplicating the integer cores within a module rather than making two logical threads share a single integer core as Intel has done.

With the first Jaguar core products due in the first half of this year (and rumored to launch in about three months), it would be absolutely shocking if AMD were going to use some sort of simultaneous multi-threading in Jaguar cores but hadn't yet talked about it.  That's the sort of information that business partners need to know about long before now in order to properly optimize software.  AMD has talked about much lower level details such as which particular instruction sets are supported for that very reason.

The PS4 will have eight real Jaguar cores.  Jaguar cores are fairly weak cores, so even in programs that scale flawlessly to eight cores, performance will trail behind a lot of desktop quad core processors--including AMD's own FX-4300 and A10-5800K, not just Intel quad cores with hyperthreading.  But it will have eight real x86 CPU cores.

  Volgore

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3/03/13 2:42:52 PM#58

Sounds like a typical SOE move to me.

They are never shy to piss customers off.

Back from the banned...again.

  Comstrike

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3/03/13 5:23:05 PM#59

SOE goes console only. That means the news that developers favor PC platform development ahead of all other platforms next year, including the projected new systems, is dead-on accurate.

The irony is that consoles are going to suffer more than PCs will in the future.

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  xpowderx

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OP  3/03/13 6:24:46 PM#60
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by xpowderx
 

The sad thing is in my OP. I never stated it would not go to the PC...

...except in the title that - prior to the convenient edit recently made - only said "SOE going console only!"

Of course I had to edit the title. But the post itself did not change. Ican totally see the error. Thanks for making sure to point it out.. Had to keep it on subject.

Success is your proof;
courage is your armour;
go on, go on, in my strength;
& ye shall turn not back for any!
— Liber AL III:46

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