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Camelot Unchained

Camelot Unchained 

General Discussion  » Do Graphics Matter?

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Novice Member

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OP  2/27/13 4:25:16 PM#1

Will graphics be important to you for Camelot Unchained?

If so what kind of graphics would you like to see? would it be more DAoC style? WoW style? Warhammer style? 


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Joined: 2/26/13
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2/27/13 4:31:47 PM#2

A more fluid updated version of DAOC before they added the stupid new models ( catacombs? or NF? or whatever it was )

Something like the screenshots i see of TESO

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2/27/13 5:15:00 PM#3
Yes. It's not 2005 or 2008. The game needs to look at least a little better than DAOC and WAR. But it also can't have such great graphics that you need a $5,000 computer to get good framerates during huge fights.

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2/27/13 5:27:33 PM#4
Originally posted by meddyck
Yes. It's not 2005 or 2008. The game needs to look at least a little better than DAOC and WAR. But it also can't have such great graphics that you need a $5,000 computer to get good framerates during huge fights.



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Posts: 190

2/27/13 6:04:53 PM#5

The game needs to look good. I believe it should have a graphical overhaul every year.

I like to use eve as an example. It didn't get to look as good as it does now in one giant patch, every year they've made graphics updates here and there.

I hope that if they keep the art assets tied to only RvR and maybe 4 RvR dungeons, keeping the scope  on content small, but reinventing, improving, and updating that content again and again.


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2/27/13 6:19:49 PM#6

Of course graphics matter.  Beauty is on the outside.  That other thing people say is just so ugly games will feel better about themselves.


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2/27/13 6:27:26 PM#7
Only as much as they can attract players. Other than at least looking "current" I personally don't care. The engine being able to smoothly handle large battles is more important to me. Even epic graphics look like crap at 5fps.


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2/27/13 6:30:47 PM#8
This is like asking "Does size matter?"..  The answer is the same for both /grin

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Joined: 1/11/06
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2/27/13 6:33:04 PM#9

Yes and no, graphics should be at least 2005 level for a low budget and everything in the world should look natural, for higher budgets minimum goes up to 2006 and max 2008. Anything before 2005 and you get the polygons of death a la SWG and we need the world to look natural so it does not break immersion.  Flashy graphics =/= good game so it should not be the focus.


Note: the above is stated in general terms, I do not have any feelings for or against Unchained, good luck to them and hope you guys enjoy the final product.


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2/27/13 6:42:27 PM#10

The graphics depend on the engine itself, but overall.. I hope they use high polygon models baked on low poly models with LOTS of hand painted textures for a stylized look on the characters.  

I'd love to see high resolution, photo realistic/stylized textures on major environmental objects such as keeps and towers, but regular hand painted textures on minor environmental objects like trees, crates, tents, etc.

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joie de vivre

2/27/13 6:44:39 PM#11

To coin a phrase I'd rather have an ugly cow that produced delicious milk than a pretty cow that produced spoiled milk.



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Joined: 1/21/13
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2/27/13 6:53:12 PM#12


  Yes, good graphics matter.

 DO graphics trump game play? NO.


but it's a close second IMHO>





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2/27/13 7:16:17 PM#13
Originally posted by Xobdnas

To coin a phrase I'd rather have an ugly cow that produced delicious milk than a pretty cow that produced spoiled milk.


Or since we're the ones genetically manipulating the cow from inception, we can get one that does exactly what we want...


Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/02/12
Posts: 17

2/27/13 7:25:16 PM#14

This is easy .Yes.

I don't expect it to be at the same level of visual flufiness of,let's say GW2,

but it has to look great.

And it also has to run nice in mid and low range machines.

And no cartoony WoW stuff please.

Wildstar does that and it already looks 8 years old.


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2/27/13 7:38:24 PM#15
Yep, I saw ONE Wildstar video and said "Looks like shit.  Next!".

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2/27/13 7:42:42 PM#16
As long as its a bit better then wow no, make animations smooth, combat responsive and engine run well with 300 people fighting. That's enough

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OP  2/27/13 7:56:04 PM#17

I feel that the graphics aren't soo important for me however, I must say I don't care for the cartoonish ones like WoW. I would much rather take DAoC-like graphics, it just feels so surreal to me. I don't care for warhammer graphics too much but it is somewhat of a blend between cartoony and real. Just my preference though



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2/28/13 1:28:36 AM#18
Graphics matter, but Gameplay comes first, AS LONG AS the developers at least TRY for photorealism, instead of making a ridiculous-looking stylized cartoon-land, like with WoW or WAR...

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Joined: 6/27/05
Posts: 633

2/28/13 1:35:44 AM#19

Graphics AND animations matter, at least to me.

For example, I was interested in Salem, upcoming hardcore PvP MMORPG with some interesting ideas.

But the moment I saw those ridiculous player characters with enormous heads and the whole artstyle (which I believed it must be a joke at first), I completely wiped it of my "watch" list.


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Joined: 10/26/07
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2/28/13 1:41:02 AM#20
If this game is going to be relased I guess it will be in 2 years or more. Therefore I do not concur with the people talking about graphics from 2005-2008. We can't have a game in 2015 that has graphics that is a decade old. Graphics is mighty important if you going to spend hours infront of the game. It's like finding a partner, it is the inside that counts if you want to be with that person but the outside plays a major role too. Sexual attraction is a must, you must enjoy what you are looking at and touching every night :)

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