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  baphamet

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2/26/13 8:50:38 PM#281


Originally posted by Lienhart

Originally posted by Dogblaster

Originally posted by Lienhart

Originally posted by Dogblaster Poor pleople outnumbers rich people like 1000(made up) to 1 :D but yea ...   Every mmorpg wishes to be P2P or B2P but usually they cant :)   + say what you want. B2P or P2P communities are 1000x better than ANY F2P games. They dont last /stick with the games, they are not loyal and most of  these F2P players are just looking for FREE fun, they like to troll, etc.
Poor people? What do you have in your garage?
Mercedes E 2003. Not in garage tho .. :(
.....you have a car worth $10,000 CAD with piss poor 0-100km/h(0-60mp/h) times and absolute GARBAGE 1/4 mile timings and you're going around saying people are poor? -_______________-

I choose F2P games for a damn good reason: 2008 GSXR-750 for street, 2012 CBR-600RR for track. The 750 will kill any car not classified as a supersport (and even then, a lot of supersports). I know where to put my money...you should learn too :P MMOs is not it.


you know where to put your money? LMAO!! as if spending $15 a month on an mmo is some sort of substantial investment.

if you had the things you claim you do and the funds to purchase them, the money you would spend on an mmo would be irrelevant chump change.

i am not a rich person by any means and spending $15 a month on a game is chump change to me.

i spend more than that on take out.

i would gladly give a game and its devs a little bit of money if i enjoy the game.

i would especially rather do that than play a gimped restricted version of the game i want to play.



  Loktofeit

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2/26/13 9:03:48 PM#282
Originally posted by Lienhart
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Originally posted by Lienhart
Originally posted by Dogblaster

Poor pleople outnumbers rich people like 1000(made up) to 1 :D but yea ...

Every mmorpg wishes to be P2P or B2P but usually they cant :)

+ say what you want. B2P or P2P communities are 1000x better than ANY F2P games. They dont last /stick with the games, they are not loyal and most of  these F2P players are just looking for FREE fun, they like to troll, etc.

Poor people?

What do you have in your garage?

Mercedes E 2003. Not in garage tho .. :(

.....you have a car worth $10,000 CAD with piss poor 0-100km/h(0-60mp/h) times and absolute GARBAGE 1/4 mile timings and you're going around saying people are poor? -_______________-

I choose F2P games for a damn good reason: 2008 GSXR-750 for street, 2012 CBR-600RR for track. The 750 will kill any car not classified as a supersport (and even then, a lot of supersports). I know where to put my money...you should learn too :P MMOs is not it.

You've been putting in some serious overtime on this quest for validation. If you're above and better than the rest of us, why are you still here?

 

  Phelcher

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2/26/13 9:09:36 PM#283
Free to play is for those who subscribe to mediocrity.. & have little interest in spending money on their hobby.

Honestly, who here wants.. a cheaply made mmorpg? [mod edit]

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  Teala

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2/26/13 9:11:21 PM#284
I am curious as to why this is even being brought up?   Free stuff always atracts more people - it's free!

  Cecropia

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2/26/13 9:18:28 PM#285
NVM. No point in posting in this thread, please delete.

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  User Deleted
2/26/13 9:21:03 PM#286
Originally posted by Teala
I am curious as to why this is even being brought up?   Free stuff always atracts more people - it's free!

Nothing is free especiay in the MMO world.

  Scot

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2/27/13 2:22:15 AM#287
Originally posted by sportsfan
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by Scot

And as more and more MMO's and players go F2P, MMO's have got worse.

One word. Funding.

Actually, that makes very little sense. Companies don't go free to play to make less money, if they did make less money they wouldn't go free to play. 

I am not trying to be too offensive when I say this, but it feels like not to many people here actually think.

are you talking short run or long run money here ?

Zynga games have 300 million ... players and is broke. Free to play is to avoid shutting down former AAA games, while for B games it is a way to avoid taxes on other activities.

What you see is an MMORPG industry losing players because of all that garbage out there.

And unfortunately this site and others hyped way too much turds on the way.

Point out the F2P MMO which is making the money a subscription game can. I did not say F2P cannot fund a MMO, but can anyone here tell us of a F2P MMO that is making the money a sub game does? Or has the initial investment put into it that a sub game does? Quality costs money, less funding equals less quality.

In the new age of MMO's we have many so called F2P games which have a sub as well. All MMO's are moving to a new revenue model which combines both F2P and P2P. But the more they rely on F2P the less funding they will have.

  Scot

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2/27/13 2:24:24 AM#288
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Scot

And as more and more MMO's and players go F2P, MMO's have got worse.

 

"worse" in your opinion.

So i guess you will quit MMO at some point because the trend is pretty clear.

I think you need to work on your game play that was lame even for you.

  DamonVile

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2/27/13 2:47:13 AM#289
Originally posted by Scot

Point out the F2P MMO which is making the money a subscription game can. I did not say F2P cannot fund a MMO, but can anyone here tell us of a F2P MMO that is making the money a sub game does? Or has the initial investment put into it that a sub game does? Quality costs money, less funding equals less quality.

In the new age of MMO's we have many so called F2P games which have a sub as well. All MMO's are moving to a new revenue model which combines both F2P and P2P. But the more they rely on F2P the less funding they will have.

You're talking about freemium games. they're not really f2p. They are more of a scam that is just trying to pigyback on the name. SWTOR is a good example of one of these games. Does anyone play that for free ?

People just refuse to get that f2p games only USE the free players to fill in the gaps. Something p2p games suffer from as well. Many p2p games are not doing all that bad till people start to think there's no one ever around anymore and they quit to go find a more populated game.

Free doesn't suffer this and they have just as many people spending money...IF they are a good game. Same thing a p2p game needs to be to get people to spend money on it.

f2p doesn't mean everyone in the game is playing for free. That's just stupid....

 

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  Emrendil

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2/27/13 2:49:28 AM#290
Originally posted by Phelcher
Free to play is for those who subscribe to mediocrity.. & have little interest in spending money on their hobby.

Honestly, who here wants.. a cheaply made mmorpg? I know.. children who have not learn to decern quality.. and just want quantity.

Was SWTOR cheaply made MMO?

  Doogiehowser

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2/27/13 2:51:42 AM#291
Originally posted by Mortemia

Didn't really know that talking about F2P and P2P requires this much modding and deleting posts. It's quite a chore to play catch up when you keep erasing stuff faster than we write it down.

Maybe it's those big F2P advertisements on the site that get bad rep here...

ALl the posts that have been moded or deleted got a little too personal. And uising the word 'troll' in any manner usually invite mods edit. As far F2P advertisements go..feel free to pay mmorpg.com staff out of your own pockets. They got to run business here. If not stop your whining and move to some other forums.Getting tired of this constant crying about gaming websites trying to generate revenue through ads. I wonder if you people have completely lost touch with reality.

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  Dihoru

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2/27/13 3:45:33 AM#292
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by Scot

Point out the F2P MMO which is making the money a subscription game can. I did not say F2P cannot fund a MMO, but can anyone here tell us of a F2P MMO that is making the money a sub game does? Or has the initial investment put into it that a sub game does? Quality costs money, less funding equals less quality.

In the new age of MMO's we have many so called F2P games which have a sub as well. All MMO's are moving to a new revenue model which combines both F2P and P2P. But the more they rely on F2P the less funding they will have.

You're talking about freemium games. they're not really f2p. They are more of a scam that is just trying to pigyback on the name. SWTOR is a good example of one of these games. Does anyone play that for free ?

People just refuse to get that f2p games only USE the free players to fill in the gaps. Something p2p games suffer from as well. Many p2p games are not doing all that bad till people start to think there's no one ever around anymore and they quit to go find a more populated game.

Free doesn't suffer this and they have just as many people spending money...IF they are a good game. Same thing a p2p game needs to be to get people to spend money on it.

f2p doesn't mean everyone in the game is playing for free. That's just stupid....

 Someone give this man a medal ^^. In the end it is truly that simple, free games have more players ergo you wait less in "looking for game" or "looking for group" queues and in the case of persistent world MMO type free to play games it gives the impression of being in a living world even if world/trade/general/w/e chat is kind of disturbing at times on some servers.

 

Even sandbox MMOs require people around less the player gives up after running out of ideas of what to do alone and moves to another game, this is why CCP (the makers of EVE-Online) are a more sensitive bunch of devs, they know they have a core group of players which over time has grown and they also know that their game isn't for the masses ergo they tend to be a whole lot more hands on with players, you'll never submit tickets, even highly technical ones, and wait more than 2 days for a reply, on the easier tickets they usually reply within a matter of hours and don't even get me started on the polaris fleet events (game masters and developer group moving out in pimped out dev ships to engage players on mass, sometimes it works for them and they gank a bunch of people before retreating, other times they run into Goonswarm & Co or one of the major high sec groups and the royal shit hits the fan, though at times the polaris fleets fit GM mods in which case it's really a case of 3000-4000 people vs 100, does the 100 have the balls to turn off their god mode modules?).

 

  Waiwan

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2/27/13 4:15:50 AM#293
Originally posted by Lienhart

.....you have a car worth $10,000 CAD with piss poor 0-100km/h(0-60mp/h) times and absolute GARBAGE 1/4 mile timings and you're going around saying people are poor? -_______________-

I choose F2P games for a damn good reason: 2008 GSXR-750 for street, 2012 CBR-600RR for track. The 750 will kill any car not classified as a supersport (and even then, a lot of supersports). I know where to put my money...you should learn too :P MMOs is not it.

I dont see him saying he is rich, he just stated the fact like op did.

Plus I dont see how 0-100 km/h times has anything to do with how car is good/expensive .. lol.  + I hope you are organ doner

anyways :) How much money did you bikes costs if $15 dollar per month is so damn important. ITS REALLY FUNNY reading your posts about how MMOs are not worth it, etc. What do you think mmmorpg.com is about, motocycles?

 

Make us a favor please ...GO find yourself some motocycles-related forums instead and post there..Creating threads here on mmorpgs.com how mmos are just waste of time and how you find a new awesome hobby and you can make 1-100 km/h in 0,0001 sec wont make you look like some cool kid or hero in here. We care this much || ZERO

 

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  Scot

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2/27/13 5:50:33 AM#294
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by Scot

Point out the F2P MMO which is making the money a subscription game can. I did not say F2P cannot fund a MMO, but can anyone here tell us of a F2P MMO that is making the money a sub game does? Or has the initial investment put into it that a sub game does? Quality costs money, less funding equals less quality.

In the new age of MMO's we have many so called F2P games which have a sub as well. All MMO's are moving to a new revenue model which combines both F2P and P2P. But the more they rely on F2P the less funding they will have.

You're talking about freemium games. they're not really f2p. They are more of a scam that is just trying to pigyback on the name. SWTOR is a good example of one of these games. Does anyone play that for free ?

People just refuse to get that f2p games only USE the free players to fill in the gaps. Something p2p games suffer from as well. Many p2p games are not doing all that bad till people start to think there's no one ever around anymore and they quit to go find a more populated game.

Free doesn't suffer this and they have just as many people spending money...IF they are a good game. Same thing a p2p game needs to be to get people to spend money on it.

f2p doesn't mean everyone in the game is playing for free. That's just stupid....

 

I agree with you, if you read my post no where did I say everyone is playing a game F2P for free. All I am saying is that subscription yields more revenue than F2P. More revenue equals more content and more quality. This is not exactly rocket science.

With the merger of the two revenue streams that is happening in all MMO's we will not have games that can be called F2P in the future. All so called F2P MMO's will have a sub option. Gaming companies are not going to want to lose the word "free" as a tag for their MMO but thats whats going to happen. 

 

  Phry

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2/27/13 5:57:09 AM#295
Originally posted by Waiwan
Originally posted by Lienhart

.....you have a car worth $10,000 CAD with piss poor 0-100km/h(0-60mp/h) times and absolute GARBAGE 1/4 mile timings and you're going around saying people are poor? -_______________-

I choose F2P games for a damn good reason: 2008 GSXR-750 for street, 2012 CBR-600RR for track. The 750 will kill any car not classified as a supersport (and even then, a lot of supersports). I know where to put my money...you should learn too :P MMOs is not it.

I dont see him saying he is rich, he just stated the fact like op did.

Plus I dont see how 0-100 km/h times has anything to do with how car is good/expensive .. lol.  + I hope you are organ doner

anyways :) How much money did you bikes costs if $15 dollar per month is so damn important. ITS REALLY FUNNY reading your posts about how MMOs are not worth it, etc. What do you think mmmorpg.com is about, motocycles?

 

Make us a favor please ...GO find yourself some motocycles-related forums instead and post there..Creating threads here on mmorpgs.com how mmos are just waste of time and how you find a new awesome hobby and you can make 1-100 km/h in 0,0001 sec wont make you look like some cool kid or hero in here. We care this much || ZERO

 

Probably because on a biker forum they'd rip him a new one, he states several things without any real knowledge of the subject, pretty much your average suicide jockey approaching a corner too fast with an adverse camber, they don't tend to last long

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2/27/13 6:19:14 AM#296

 

F2P MMO is a misnomer, they aren't free, they are limited access until you run into the cash grab known as a cash shop.

"but my MMO is really free because you don't have to........" PLEASE, I have played tens of F2P MMO, in every single one your enjoyment of the game is hindered if you don't pay money.

I am personally tired of F2P games, they are just scams pure ans simple.

  CalmOceans

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2/27/13 6:22:47 AM#297
Originally posted by Tazlor
I would rather pay a sub. If you actually want to get into any F2P game you'll eventually have to shell out a few hundred bucks.

1000 times this

The only people who think F2P MMO are free play them for 1 week and stop playing and claim the MMO didn't force them to pay. I can play a P2P with a free trial for a week too but I don't go claiming it's free.

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2/27/13 7:14:48 AM#298
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by Mardukk
Everyone seems to love P2P in this thread.  Do you still love the box price with the sub?  Or just a sub is enough P2P for you?  Just curious.  I don't feel that I'll ever do box price and sub together ever again, short of my dream game.

most of the ppl on this site don't play mmos anymore. They just come here to complain about them.

haha- so true. :) 

  Dihoru

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2/27/13 7:49:27 AM#299
Originally posted by CalmOceans

 

F2P MMO is a misnomer, they aren't free, they are limited access until you run into the cash grab known as a cash shop.

"but my MMO is really free because you don't have to........" PLEASE, I have played tens of F2P MMO, in every single one your enjoyment of the game is hindered if you don't pay money.

I am personally tired of F2P games, they are just scams pure ans simple.

If enjoyment for you means the end of the jorney not the journey itself (ex: playing tier 10 tanks in World of Tanks as opposed to playing any of the other tiers) then yes your enjoyment was hindered, but make no mistake that is your definition of the word as other people play a game because they want to enjoy it as a experience not for the endgame (in the same example: they like playing tier 5-6 tanks even if they aren't sometimes the top tank or even in the top 5 tanks within a certain match).

 

I am personally tired of P2P themepark games because they are scams pure and simple, they have no horizontal progression, only verticle and in this type of game they can keep you subbed and chugging away at content for as long as they can keep up with your content needs (which depending on the difficulty could very well be possible).

  dave6660

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2/27/13 8:48:01 AM#300
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by CalmOceans

 

F2P MMO is a misnomer, they aren't free, they are limited access until you run into the cash grab known as a cash shop.

"but my MMO is really free because you don't have to........" PLEASE, I have played tens of F2P MMO, in every single one your enjoyment of the game is hindered if you don't pay money.

I am personally tired of F2P games, they are just scams pure ans simple.

If enjoyment for you means the end of the jorney not the journey itself (ex: playing tier 10 tanks in World of Tanks as opposed to playing any of the other tiers) then yes your enjoyment was hindered, but make no mistake that is your definition of the word as other people play a game because they want to enjoy it as a experience not for the endgame (in the same example: they like playing tier 5-6 tanks even if they aren't sometimes the top tank or even in the top 5 tanks within a certain match).

 

I am personally tired of P2P themepark games because they are scams pure and simple, they have no horizontal progression, only verticle and in this type of game they can keep you subbed and chugging away at content for as long as they can keep up with your content needs (which depending on the difficulty could very well be possible).

The lack of horizontal progression in themepark games isn't a P2P vs F2P thing.  That's for another discussion though.

But how can you call it a scam?  You pay $15 a month, they give you access to their game.  Everybody gets what they want.  You're under no obligation to continue paying or to subscribte in the first place.  If you're beating the content faster than they can release it then quit.  Just because you don't like the payment model doesn't make it a scam.

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