It is hard to argue with proven numbers.

1. WoW being 8 yrs old and still has 9 million subs.

2. D3 12 million players

3. StarCraft has over 23 MILLION views on its official youtube channel.

It is hard to argue against those kind of numbers.

Love blizz or hate them the proff is in the pudding.

Originally posted by jdlamson75
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but your thread title is a bit of a double negative, and as such, suggests that Blizzard can do wrong... but I get the point.  =P

LoL ok np at least you got the point.

Originally posted by Letsinod
We needed a thread for this?  McDonalds and Wal-Mart can do no wrong either I guess....

I went to the McDonald's in the local Wal Mart for dinner this fine evening, and everything I ordered was there.  'Twas a delight!

I admit that I have had some fun with games but:

Wolrd of Warcraft is a Disneyland rather than proper roleplaying environment. The toons look childish, and the environment and lore remind me of Donald Duck cartoon.

Income means a game is good? Income means the game is innovative?

1. WoW being 8 yrs old and still has 9 million subs.

after 8 years they only have 9 million subs? if the game were so great they would have more than 20 million subs. However with each new expansionthey lost subs. then they gain some, but they have never gained more subs than they already had since TBC.

2. D3 12 million subs

This is a joke right? D3 isnt a sub based game, its a B2P game and more than 60% of the buyers demanded refunds or quit completely.. need I remind everyone of the whole "error 37" fiasco?

3. StarCraft has over 23 MILLION views on its official youtube channel.

And how many of those 23 million viewed the page more than one. quite a few i would bet. though I will admit Starcraft two is highly anticipated.

Blizzard screwed up with Diablo 3 and now they are dealing with SOE to have it on the PS3/4... thats great considering it was a waste of time on the PC. The graphics fit perfectly with consoles as do the play styles. It wasnt great the RMAH was a hypocritical addition, the game play was horrible and the story line left alot to be desired.

World of Warcraft is great for those that love theme park games, many find enjoyment in it. Hell I did for many years. But thre comes a time when things must end and I seriously hope that whatever the "Titan" is it had better have better graphics and game play than WoW or its gonna fail epically.

OP, Blizzard called.  Your check is in.  Just one more wheel in the COG of their marketing dept.   BTW, you have to fly to Asia to the office of the Asain gold farmers to collect it, because that is what 75% of their customers are... Asian Gold Farmers.

So. yes.  If your interests are in unethical marketing and foreign relations, you should be extremely impressed with the Blizzard of 2008 - 2013.  As for the rest of us, we remember the GAMING Blizzard of 1994-2007, RIP.

Originally posted by Akumawraith

1. WoW being 8 yrs old and still has 9 million subs.

after 8 years they only have 9 million subs? if the game were so great they would have more than 20 million subs. However with each new expansionthey lost subs. then they gain some, but they have never gained more subs than they already had since TBC.

2. D3 12 million subs

This is a joke right? D3 isnt a sub based game, its a B2P game and more than 60% of the buyers demanded refunds or quit completely.. need I remind everyone of the whole "error 37" fiasco?

3. StarCraft has over 23 MILLION views on its official youtube channel.

And how many of those 23 million viewed the page more than one. quite a few i would bet. though I will admit Starcraft two is highly anticipated.

Blizzard screwed up with Diablo 3 and now they are dealing with SOE to have it on the PS3/4... thats great considering it was a waste of time on the PC. The graphics fit perfectly with consoles as do the play styles. It wasnt great the RMAH was a hypocritical addition, the game play was horrible and the story line left alot to be desired.

World of Warcraft is great for those that love theme park games, many find enjoyment in it. Hell I did for many years. But thre comes a time when things must end and I seriously hope that whatever the "Titan" is it had better have better graphics and game play than WoW or its gonna fail epically.

Ty for that I forgot that D3 is not a sub based game. lol

Originally posted by Mustarastas

I admit that I have had some fun with games but:

 

Wolrd of Warcraft is a Disneyland rather than proper roleplaying environment. The toons look childish, and the environment and lore remind me of Donald Duck cartoon.

 

Income means a game is good? Income means the game is innovative?

The toons in WoW are the same from Warcraft just better 3D. Thats about the same as Warhammer's RTS as well. so is Warhammer RTS childish as well?

Also you say the lore and enviroments remind you of donald duck cartoon... care to explain on this. because Warcraft lore is huge. Matter of fact its mostly a copy/ paste of LoTR IP lore, so does that make LoTR Donald Duck land as well?

WoW came out at the exact right golden moment, their next MMO won't be the same cinderella story as wow was/is - you heard it first from me :)

It'll gain and retain a decent amount for sure, but it'll get nowhere near WoW numbers.

Originally posted by velmax
No argument their, but if they can create a good game is the question?

I received Starcraft 2 for Christmas and still playing it. I would say SC2 is a very good game. Looking forward to the x-pac.