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  azarhal

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2/23/13 12:36:08 PM#121
Originally posted by Total_Hunt

This isn't new news.

 

I assume it will be 'fully voiced' like Skyrim / Oblivion. Not long conversations with dialogue choices like Mass Effect / SWTOR.

My expectation as well. In fact, I don't expect to see any cutscenes like SWTOR, TSW and GW2 have. Just NPCs with their text having voice over like in Skyrim. ZOS seems to be taking a lots of inspiration from Skyrim already.

  Vidir

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2/23/13 12:39:37 PM#122
Originally posted by archeageking

Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

 

Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

 

 

me too.

im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

 Whats shocking about that I think that is good news, anyway I wont play this game since the hevy pvp focus.

  hikaru77

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2/23/13 12:40:00 PM#123
Originally posted by archeageking

Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

 

Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

 

 

me too.

im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Best thing about swtor was the story and the voice acting, so why are this bad news?. Im maybe im wrong but all the TES games have also full voice acting. this are GREAT news, another MMO where the STORY actually matter. 

  Marcelino

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Can I have your stuffz....???

2/23/13 12:41:04 PM#124
It's not sad at all, it just depends how its approached. I personally loathed the voice overs in SWTOR, but thought they where amazing in The Secret World.
  Wraithone

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2/23/13 12:41:09 PM#125
Originally posted by archeageking

Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

 

Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

 

 

me too.

im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

But I like Voice Overs Zim... ^^  I have no problem with VO's, as long as they are done well, and used well.  That was one of the few things I enjoyed about SWTOR.  It was all of the other things that piled up, that made me leave the game.

  aesperus

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2/23/13 12:50:04 PM#126

This isn't news.

I know the OP sees 'voice acting' and thinks 'SWTOR', but the simple truth is that MMOs have been moving in the direction of voice acted content since before WoW. (EQ2 had VO before WoW released back in 2004) This is just the trend the industry has been going in for quite some time.

Maybe back in the '90s VO wasn't a thing, now it is. It's pretty much expected in most games now. Sure it drives costs, and we can argue about whether or not it really benefits games at all, but it's not going away as long as it's popular; and it most definitely is.

  MadDemon64

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2/23/13 1:21:42 PM#127
Originally posted by archeageking

Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

 

Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

 

 

me too.

im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

So, voice acting in a game is an automatic strike against it just because SWTOR has it and SWTOR is a bad game?  Well what about all the games that had voice acting that came before SWTOR and were good?  What about the ones that came after SWTOR but are good.  Voice acting is not a strike against The Secret World or Guild Wars 2, so why should it be a strike against TESO?

Also, SWTOR might be as a failure as an MMO, but as a regular RPG, it is a good game.  If they Bioware had taken their ideas for SWTOR and turned it into a single player RPG with possible multiplayer functions, I doubt anyone would be complaining and everyone would be singing Bioware's praises.

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  Comcast8888

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Joined: 5/10/12
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2/23/13 1:27:05 PM#128
whats the shock?  swtor didnt fail b/c of voice over so what the point of this thread? 
  jazz.be

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Joined: 8/26/06
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2/23/13 1:35:02 PM#129
Originally posted by archeageking

Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

 

Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

 

 

me too.

im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

You terribly failed at shocking the world :-)

Shocking news would be voice overs with cutscenes and multiple choice.

In fact voice overs are cool if you can just walk away.

  LIOKI

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Joined: 5/02/08
Posts: 158

2/23/13 1:41:40 PM#130
Originally posted by archeageking

Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

 

Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

 

 

me too.

im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

 

seriously by your logic any game using the spacebar as a control to jump shoud be a fail game.

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

  faxnadu

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Posts: 953

2/23/13 1:46:17 PM#131
Originally posted by Rhonen
Originally posted by m0lly
Originally posted by achesoma
It's not the VO that's bothersome, it's the neverending cutscenes.  I'm more concerned about the half-life of instanced/phased all to hell "megaserver" and single zone pvp.

single zone pvp is only way to make this work and keep players hooked, we all swa what was the outcome warhammer online every map pvp areas, that was doomed idea straight from the start. and battlegrounds are in some other games let them be there.

 

one pvp zone where factions colladie like every week is the best idea i can think of to keep it intrested.

And yet this is what the PvP'ers have been asking for all this time.

Ratero.

well its a doomed idea , born in grave , pvpers dont know what they asking. dont know what they really want either.

  kevjards

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Joined: 9/27/10
Posts: 1443

2/23/13 1:47:01 PM#132
Originally posted by archeageking

Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

 

Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

 

 

me too.

im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

On the contrary.thanks for the good news..i was not a fan of SWTOR..but when i played it there was one thing that stood out and that was the class stories..if they are doing this i,m more than happy.i fully expect them to make the game a  lot better than what swtor was.so all in all a happy chappy i am.

  Fearum

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2/23/13 1:52:04 PM#133
The bigger waste of money and time is trying to make a 1st person view where you see your hands for the few that are crying about wanting it in the game which they will never use after they see that its worse than playing it in 3rd person.
  deniter

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Joined: 9/06/08
Posts: 567

2/23/13 1:57:01 PM#134
I'm not surprised, really. I'm more and more convinced this game will be nothing more than three single player campaigns, one for each faction, and then RvR at the middle of the continent. I hope i'm wrong but if this really is the case then VO's fit just fine to the picture.
  Iselin

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Posts: 3702

2/23/13 6:44:53 PM#135

SWTOR had voiceovers and TESO is going to have voiceovers therefore SWTOR = TESO ?

Your logic...it fails

  Iselin

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2/23/13 6:53:05 PM#136
Originally posted by m0lly
Originally posted by Rhonen
Originally posted by m0lly
Originally posted by achesoma
It's not the VO that's bothersome, it's the neverending cutscenes.  I'm more concerned about the half-life of instanced/phased all to hell "megaserver" and single zone pvp.

single zone pvp is only way to make this work and keep players hooked, we all swa what was the outcome warhammer online every map pvp areas, that was doomed idea straight from the start. and battlegrounds are in some other games let them be there.

 

one pvp zone where factions colladie like every week is the best idea i can think of to keep it intrested.

And yet this is what the PvP'ers have been asking for all this time.

Ratero.

well its a doomed idea , born in grave , pvpers dont know what they asking. dont know what they really want either.

And that's why PVPers fit right in this nest of developer wannabes.

  Siveria

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2/23/13 7:03:39 PM#137
Last I checked every Elder scrolls had pretty much every npc voiced.. I don't see the issue here. Do you complain about it when playing oblivion? or skyrim? no, so why bitch about it in TESO? As long as the scenes are skipable (because no real mmo player gives a shit about why this random npc needs me to kill 6 bigs), Honestly they should just drop the voice acting and probally save a million or 2 in dev costs. Hardly any mmo's have voice overs and no one has really complained at all about it. I just hope they don't pull a swtor because i'll be honest, the storylines in TES games is about as intersting as watching dog shit ferment on the sidewalk. Oblivion was stupid, skyrim was even worse(shity story and a shit place it took place in.). Also swtor/tsw pretty much proved that mmo's with a story do not work well. Should only be 1 hero in a game, when every tom dick and jane can be the hero in a mmorpg it loses its purpose.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  User Deleted
2/23/13 7:05:10 PM#138

Its going to have the same amount of voice acting as Morrowwind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, and if you played any of those you'd know where their developmental  focus was(the rest of the game)

 

  Yamota

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2/23/13 7:07:35 PM#139
Originally posted by atuerstar

Full voice overs are not a problem.

 

Spending absurd amounts of money, the lions share of your budget, on actors for voice overs is a problem. I love reading a good book as the next bibliophile but games have changed. The audience of modern games is one that appreciates the ease, and feels more immersion, from voice overs.

Either they spend a lot of money on good voice acting and thus other parts of the game suffers or they spend less money on crappy voice overs which mean you will get annoyed by it because it is so bad and actually lower immersion.

Either way, this is bad news. But then again not much about this game is good news...

  Siveria

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2/23/13 7:08:05 PM#140
Originally posted by Ryowulf

Here is what we know about full voice over useage.

 

It cost money.

It takes time or at least more time than doing text.

 

The time part shouldn't be a big deal in development. They should have a VO team and lots of space before release.  I don't know what happens later when they want to add content and have a smaller team, less time and money.  How many quests has Tor added? How much higher is the level cap? How much more personal story is there since launch?

The money is the big question.  On the one hand, Tor sold more games and made more cash because of voice acting, so it may have paid for itself.  Here is the thing, a game has a budget.  Its like if I have a pie to share with my friends.  If I give half of the pie to one friend the rest will be getting less.  Even if I get more pie later all I have is that one right now.

I don't know how much of the budget is going towards full VO, but the more it costs the less everyone else gets.  Does anyone disagree?

We will have to trust that the Devs know what they are doing.  I am more concerned about locked factions/races really.  There is enough going on that I won't be pre-ordering without playing or reading detailed reviews about the game first.

yeah, especally how shit Elder scrolls stories tend to be, I love the gameplay but the plotlines are so bad most of the time. I am also worried about race locking to certan factions, that issue alone makes me alot less interested in the game, I'd rather it be like skyrim, where there are the main races in the faction (in skyrim its nords) but they will accept other races into their faction. Especally when humans got paired up with the fugly orcs.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

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