I'm so sick of the people compairing Day to War, and saying, well, both games are buggy, both  have hackers galore, I dont see why all the hate is directed at War?

The reason why I love the Day (outside of the obvious reasons like full loot and perma death to name just a few) is because of Rocket. He made a mod that he wanted to play and enjoy with his friends. The game got popular from word of mouth and keyboard, no advertising, no lies, no bullshit about what the game could do and then did not deliver.

That, and if you watch vids and read blogs about Day you can see how passionate Rocket is about his game and the community. He actually gives a shit, and we as gamers respect that. Its fucking refreshing. Hes an underdog. So most are willing to be patient for the standalone and still enjoy the mod. And I will buy the standalone as well as the 40 core in my clan, its called loyalty.

And then you have the tools at War. The lies, the deciet, the obvious money grab, shitting on the community, selling ammo for christsake. Saying shit like " this game has been in development for years".. What utter horseshit. Fucking liers, all the way around.

These dicks got what they deserved. But their still laughing all the way to the bank, ripping off Rocket, and fools who dont bother to do any research on what they spend their money on.

As for me, I did not spend a dime, I play Arma.

Originally posted by Talonsin

Originally posted by Denambren

Later, MMORPG can refer to this review when accused of making biased reviews, and show all their readers that indeed, they are not biased. They bashed a game and gave it a shockingly bad score when everyone else was doing the exact same thing.

 

Did it ever occur to you that the reason "everyone" was bashing the game was because it actually does suck?  No, that cant be it...

 

It all comes down to causation.  I think there could well be a semblance of truth in Den's remark.  However, imo it deserved its score.

Originally posted by wonderwise
This is internet bullying, nothing else.

I'd equate it more to a classic forum dogpile, one negative statement (the Big Dog), and lots of eager "Me Too"s.

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by wonderwise
This is internet bullying, nothing else.

I'd equate it more to a classic forum dogpile, one negative statement (the Big Dog), and lots of eager "Me Too"s.

We've seen it before, many times. Nothing is quite so much happy fun time for a crowd of gamers.

To be fair there is a general backlash against cash grabs and mis-selling.  

Ok I haven't played the game but after reading the review and looking at the score and comparing it to other reviews/scores on the site I think you have swung way to far in the other direction from the usual positive outlook.  The score of 1.whatever when compred to the other review score would lend me to believe that this game barely installs and when it eventually does you find out it's not a game but some kind of malware that after replicating itself via mailing itself out to everyone on your mailing lists then proceeeds to melt every one of your computers components before making it explode wiping out the entire neighbourhood.

Right now it merely looks like your basicly only willing to be mostly positive to those companies/games that might potenially buy add space on the site (and I don't usually buy into such theories) while if a game seems to not offer the site much in terms of revenue then it's fine to be "brutally honest".  In my opinion if you were being "honest" then a score around the 3 or 4 mark would of sufficed to mark this as being a terrible game and kept your journalistic integrety intact and actually make your site stand out from the rest of the MMO reviewer pack.  But now you just look like a bunch of sheep who follow all the other sites piling on and kicking a game when it's down thus leading me to lose faith in your reviewing process.

Originally posted by Denambren

Kind of sad that this is one of the few games that MMORPG.com was allowed to be brutally honest with. MMORPG isn't getting any income from The War Z, and everyone else on the internet is bashing The War Z as the "in thing", so it's a very safe review to lather with insults and mockery.

Later, MMORPG can refer to this review when accused of making biased reviews, and show all their readers that indeed, they are not biased. They bashed a game and gave it a shockingly bad score when everyone else was doing the exact same thing.

 

Perhaps because this game richly DESERVED to be rated so low?  Ratings by their very nature tend to be subjective.  I don't come here for people to do my research and thinking for me.  If a game looks interesting, I do my own research on it, and then decide if its worth my time.  Thats something *everyone* should be doing.

So funny to watch all the DAYZ fanboys rage.   Dont worry the Arma 3 team is throwing Rocket more devs and money, along with a engine and a support team.  But don't worry it's getting released 2012......  Oh wait  nvm it got delayed because people where raging at him, and Arma 3 Team keeps giving him more and more resources.....

Man, a game this bad makes me want to try it :)

Does it cost money? If so, forget it.

The problem with this thread is that War Z is being taken as a serious game in the first place.  It isn't.  I feel pity for the people that were suckered into buying it, but that doesn't change the fact that this "game" was a hastily cobbled together con-job meant to capitalize on Day Z's popularity.  There is no way that a game company with any concern for their reputation, or any kind of QA system whatsoever, would drop such a kick-in-the-nuts of a product on the market.

Hammerpoint put just enough effort into this Cleveland Steamer to make it appear as though there was a presentable product here, and then listed all the features they thought people would want to draw hype and get pre-orders.  You will never see most of what was promised.  Go read the interview that (now defunct) Gamespy had with one of the "developers."  http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

For those who bought WarZ and are now trying to defend it: You got duped, it's OK to admit it.  It happens with games, though usually not to this extent.  Don't make yourself look like a complete assclown by trying to legitimize an obvious ripoff simply because you fell prey to it.  Steam did the right thing by customers when they offered a full refund for the WarZ, but they still need to put guidelines into place to keep this from happening again. 

So, you people decide to flame warz because of dayz?

Get older, it's better to play already stand alone warz then hoping for promised dayz to be stand alone, how long are you ready to wait for that promise? 1, 2, 3 maybe more years?

Don't be jealous, just ejoy warz till dayz is going to be stand alone game, then you can all switch to whatever please's you..

Originally posted by znaiika

So, you people decide to flame warz because of dayz?

Get older, it's better to play already stand alone warz then hoping for promised dayz to be stand alone, how long are you ready to wait for that promise? 1, 2, 3 maybe more years?

Don't be jealous, just ejoy warz till dayz is going to be stand alone game, then you can all switch to whatever please's you..

It's not possible to enjoy WarZ because it's gameplay is sloppier than a burrito with both ends open. I still can't figure out why people defend this travesty. And honestly, DayZ as a mod plays better than WarZ as a standalone. And DayZ is still a mess.

Originally posted by Aeolron
I find it funny that when a POS game like this gets reviewed ( 100% agree with this review btw ) we have people here, in general, that instead of blaming the company for ripping tons of people off , mmorpg gets slapped , insulted , and blamed. I think it's high time that a game like this got this type of harsh review, because its true, 100% of what the op said, and I for one will support this review because it prevents to some extent , of people paying their hard earned cash for this god awful game, and I applaud that, to the rest of you who go out of your way to defend , insult the staff at mmorpg and the other members of this site because we are trying to help people realize that this is indeed a rip off to the highest extent, need to leave and go somewhere else!

I've been coming here when this site launched, and I will agree with what Bill said ( you are a great writer Bill by the way ) but I will say that one thing I don't agree with is Bills score it would have been a 4 that's way to high and personally hammerpoint should be charged with fraud ( I've majored in law ) and held accountable for false advertisement and refusing to refund those poor people who bought into this POS. so in closing, I applaud you mmorpg and to the OP, extremely well done on your part sir, you might have saved afew people from making a terrible mistake.

Looking at whats involved, this was quite predictable.  Check out the details here.

Arktos Entertainment Acquires Majority Stake in Hammerpoint Interactive

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Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:22pm EST

Arktos Entertainment Acquires Majority Stake in Hammerpoint Interactive

Arktos Entertainment Group today announced the purchase of a majority stake in developer Hammerpoint Interactive. The acquisition takes effect immediately and involves the consolidation of all development resources, including teams, intellectual property and technology, under the Hammerpoint brand and positions Arktos solely as an investment/financing entity. Sergey Titov, General Partner of Arktos Entertainment, will assume the role of General Manager of Hammerpoint.

Hammerpoint Interactive is currently in active development on three titles, including the popular, post-apocalyptic zombie MMO The War Z, which recently celebrated the launch of its Foundation Release on Steam after attracting more than 600,000 registered players, with over 150,000 playing daily, over the course of its two-month closed beta. Hammerpoint’s next title will be announced in early 2013 and is due for release in the third quarter of the same year.

“After our initial investment in Hammerpoint, we found the team was able to utilize our technology to develop in an efficient and effective manner, hitting milestones well ahead of schedule for The War Z,” said Sergey Titov, General Partner of Arktos Entertainment and now General Manager of Hammerpoint Interactive. “We made the decision soon after the launch of War Z’s Alpha to invest more into Hammerpoint and position it as our core developer of mid and hardcore games from this point forward.”

About Hammerpoint Interactive

Hammerpoint Interactive was formed in 2011 by a team of experienced developers looking to create a fresh experience in the online, multiplayer arena. Having worked with large publishers, such as Electronic Arts and Activision, as well as on multiplayer games, such as World of Tanks, the team possesses the knowledge and skill to create multiplayer games that appeal to both hardcore and mainstream gamers. The company is backed and financed by Arktos Entertainment Group.

About Arktos Entertainment Group

Arktos Entertainment Group (www.arktosentertainment.com) is a privately held Los Angeles based investment and holding company, providing investment as well as creative and production management support for companies in the interactive and online entertainment industries. Arktos Entertainment published and is operating The War Z through OP Productions, LLC, a newly created subsidiary.

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