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  barasawa

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2/22/13 2:16:15 PM#21

Anybody else notice the Luffy cosplayer in the background?

 

Wow, tough list of criterea for one game. I'll have to think about that for a while. 

Even in something like World Of Warcraft, the community changes a lot depending on server and alliegence. Most of the games I've been in with friendly helpful people would fall into the niche category.  (WoW doesn't qualify, as it's not F2P, even though it has a kind of trial mode, it's too limited.)

So yeah, that's a hard list.  One thing I know for sure, EVE is NOT a good choice for noobs to MMOs.

 

Big active community, not niche, not too cute, F2P, no non-consensual PvP,  has PC/GM driven events instead of just scripting, doesn't have a big learning curve.

Oh boy. That's really going to take some research.  The only ones I can think of right now either no longer exist, or fail at least one of those requirements.

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  DashiDMV

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2/22/13 2:16:42 PM#22
Originally posted by Epicent

World of Warcraft has become casual and caters to the widest demographic. I personally dislike the game but you asked for something easy with a wide demographic which would make it the most feesable choice.

 

Edit: "Help two cute girls finding their first MMO."<---------- Irrelevant title and borderline offensive. We aren't all ugly trolls who have never been with a woman and won't cater too your needs specifically because you are female.......at least I won't.

 

Well the poster is a guy and mentioned the girl in the middle was his teacher so maybe he tried a title that people would click on for whatever reason to increase his grade or score points or whatever. Who knows.

 

 

  Aeonblades

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2/22/13 2:17:24 PM#23
Originally posted by MightyChasm
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Rift - takes the best things from WoW LotRO WAR and smooshes them altogether in one pretty package.

haha Aeon, I hate to disagree with you because I generally think you speak sense, but no.  

Oh make no mistake, it's definitely a first MMO or casual MMO type game. I wouldn't recommend it to people who have been playing them a while. It does what it does and I'm loathe to recommend WoW anymore.

Good to know someone thinks I make sense sometimes! haha.

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  zomard100

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2/22/13 2:18:20 PM#24
WOW girls WOW. World of warcraft is  best mmorpg ever made and you will enjoy it for many years. You have so much to there, rest is just a shadow compared with this magic world. 10 million players around the world create largest gaming comunity, do not be fooled with new games and awesome graphics. You can free play to level 20
  User Deleted
2/22/13 2:18:24 PM#25

I would go with rifts most likely as it is large enouph that you have quite abit of players in the community to get a good idea of the community (though every game will have a veriaty of communities really), while it is also f2p up to lvl 20 allowing you to test play it an then shift to sub if you like the game/community (alot of the chatting in the game is done in the lower lvl chats over top level chats). 

 

Also if it is supposed to be representive of mmo community, than i would look into playing several mmos, as each mmo-type (sandbox, and themepark being the two largest) will have a different feel compared to each other. Wow/rift/aion i would say would be good choices for themepark mmos as they are either f2p or have a trail with largely full access, and i would say that anyone of the other sandboxes would be good for that set, and though this you can get a better idea of the entire mmo community.

  VikingGamer

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2/22/13 2:19:39 PM#26

If you are willing to try a pay to play then:

WoW of course is the big one still. I wouldn't go back to it but it is basically still the standard even if it is starting to show its age.

GW2 is very popular but I didn't like the combat. You might, but the combat and several other elements do make the game rather non-standard. I don't think they have a trial yet.

I would much more recommend Rift for a pay to play choice. Very representative. lots of features. constant updates. Basically it is WoW but better and newer, IMHO.

 

If free to play is a must then I would say go with Aion or maybe Tera. Aion is great looking, has lots of content, will soon be getting more classes here in the west and while the cash shop is aggressive in marketing it is still truely free to play. That is, you can play the whole game for free if you are willing to do without convenence and cosmetics.

Tera is also great looking but is somewhat limited in content. It is not a small world but things can get repeatitive. Also it is action combat so that is not very representative of MMO though things are heading more that direction all the time is seems so far. They have perhaps the best free to play model out there too. The community can be a bit off putting though.

If you are willing to give superheros a try as opposed to fantasy then try Champions Online. Pretty standard game play but character creation is very open ended and fun. Strong RP community and pretty good on the F2P model though they go overboard with the lock boxes.

SOE has a number of good games but I cannot recommend them because their free to play crosses my personal pay to win line in that you have to pay to equip high end items. For me that goes too far.

Same goes for SWTOR, good game, bad free to play model.

While EVE Online is a great game it is PvP everywhere. It is cut throat and downright mean. It is nothing like any other MMO (except for Perpetuum which more or less copied them.) so it is certainly not representative but it is still the biggest and probably most successful of the true sandbox games. Only play this game if you like your details to have details, you have a Ph.D in Economics and a lot of free time or you want what little faith in humanity you might have left to be thoroughly crushed.

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  Epicent

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2/22/13 2:19:59 PM#27
Originally posted by zomard100
WOW girls WOW. World of warcraft is  best mmorpg ever made and you will enjoy it for many years. You have so much to there, rest is just a shadow compared with this magic world. 10 million players around the world create largest gaming comunity, do not be fooled with new games and awesome graphics.

^^^^^^^^ Is this even a real answer? I wouldn't take advice from fanboys although it does concur with the advice I have given.  Definitely make your choice based on non biasism instead of garbage like this. No offense friend.

  SansSarif

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2/22/13 2:20:28 PM#28
Originally posted by Spiersberg

- It has to be a representative experience, so it can´t be a niche title, too childish or too anything. Something giving a nice global view of what a MMO (community) is about.

This is going to be a major problem.

There is no ONE game that can give you a clear overview of the gaming community as a whole, it would be like trying to pick one group of people on the planet to use as a example of the entire human race.

You have farmers, griefers, grinders, hardcore, softcore, RP, FPS, TPS, Strategy, "Stay-at-home" Facebook gamers, PVP, PVE, Story driven players, Content Locust, Action, Mecha, Horror...

This could go on for months... as each genre has sub-genres, and those have sub sections so forth and so on.

For a traditional MMORPG experience: World of Warcraft

For a FPS: Pick a 'Halo' game

For a look at a new trend in MMOs: TERA

For PVP-FPS: Planetside 2

For Action-ish PVP Strategy: League of Legends

and that is to name a few...

Remember the groups you will find also drastically differ from your choice of console.

XBLA and PSN in my experience tend to have a younger audience that are... well.. Immature to put it nicely.

PC gamers tend to be older, and yet, oddly behave like their console counter parts.

Of course, within any "stereotype" are people who simply don't fit it.

Good luck with your experiment!

  Randayn

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2/22/13 2:20:31 PM#29
Originally posted by Epicent

Edit: "Help two cute girls finding their first MMO."<---------- Irrelevant title and borderline offensive. We aren't all ugly trolls who have never been with a woman and won't cater too your needs specifically because you are female.......at least I won't.

thank you for posting that...was holding in a bit more than just that :P...they want to do a social experiment but the first thing they do is profile MMO gamers....classic....they are lucky I love MMO's and always want to offer my opinion...nobody else is though :P

  MightyChasm

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2/22/13 2:20:39 PM#30
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by MightyChasm
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Rift - takes the best things from WoW LotRO WAR and smooshes them altogether in one pretty package.

haha Aeon, I hate to disagree with you because I generally think you speak sense, but no.  

Oh make no mistake, it's definitely a first MMO or casual MMO type game. I wouldn't recommend it to people who have been playing them a while. It does what it does and I'm loathe to recommend WoW anymore.

Good to know someone thinks I make sense sometimes! haha.

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  Spiersberg

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OP  2/22/13 2:21:03 PM#31
Originally posted by DashiDMV

Well the poster is a guy and mentioned the girl in the middle was his teacher so maybe he tried a title that people would click on for whatever reason to increase his grade or score points or whatever. Who knows.

 

 

Hey, I just thought it would be a catchy title and it's real. I didn't even know I could earn points or anything. I changed it so nobody complains :)

Wow! That's a lot of responses. I'll have to research all this. Thanks a lot!

  bcbully

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2/22/13 2:21:47 PM#32
Guild wars 2 would be perfect, or swtor, F2P.
  MightyChasm

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2/22/13 2:22:52 PM#33
Originally posted by Spiersberg
Originally posted by LIOKI

Being an avid forum reader for years and not knowing which MMO's that are FTP to try is quite contrary.

Thanks for the responses so far!

I'm interested mostly in abstract discussions, like solo vs group, economy, sandbox vs themepark, stagnation of the genre, etc. I've played just around ten MMOs myself and I know I can find here people who knows far better than me.

It isn't needed for the game to be F2P, but it's a plus. They will even pay a subscription it's really a better representative experience.

You will find a lot of people who think they know a hell of a lot more, they probably don't.

  Randayn

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2/22/13 2:23:00 PM#34
Originally posted by bcbully
Guild wars 2 would be perfect, swtor.

bc....are you feeling okay today?

Please don't recommend those games to anyone...I wouldnt recommend them to my worst enemy

  Loktofeit

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2/22/13 2:24:00 PM#35
Originally posted by MMOGamer71

In this order:

LOTRO

DDO

Rift

Champions Online

That's a nice cross section of mainstream MMOs that fit the description.

+1

 

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  LIOKI

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2/22/13 2:27:33 PM#36
Originally posted by Spiersberg
Originally posted by DashiDMV

Well the poster is a guy and mentioned the girl in the middle was his teacher so maybe he tried a title that people would click on for whatever reason to increase his grade or score points or whatever. Who knows.

 

 

Hey, I just thought it would be a catchy title and it's real. I didn't even know I could earn points or anything. I changed it so nobody complains :)

Wow! That's a lot of responses. I'll have to research all this. Thanks a lot!

Research? write them on a piece of paper, blindfold yourself and throw a dart,done. You'll make yourself insane researching these games the opinions vary so much. If you pick one just ask for some advice to get started, much easier than asking what game to start playing.

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

  vindir

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2/22/13 2:29:47 PM#37
Originally posted by Spiersberg

So, their next challenge is the MMO world. They need your experience in order to choose the right target.

- It has to be a game. It can't be something like Second Life.

- PVP has to be optional because they don't have any kind of experience or skill in videogames. It can´t be too hardcore neither.

- It has to be a representative experience, so it can´t be a niche title, too childish or too anything. Something giving a nice global view of what a MMO (community) is about.

- Big, lively and active community. 

- Human driven events by GMs and/or players. Stuff like weddings are a big plus.

- F2P with full access to chat, but they would pay if it's worth.

Well, that's it. I can't wait to read your answers. Thanks in advance!

 

First consideration: f2p. I am assuming you are not looking for pay to play so that would rule out  games like GW2. Rift and WoW are free only to lvl 20 and then you need to pay. So those are out. Aion and Tera are free. Aion though the pvp is not really optional. Tera the pvp is optional, but the community at this time is horrible. The chat is filled with over exploitation of sexuality (pedophillia) and racisim. SWTRO is free but restictive with content unless you sub monthly. Plus the population in SWTOR is not as healthy as it once was. Neverwinter is going to be free and you can grind for content. But that is not released yet, and we are not entirly sure how much free is free in that game.

All in all as others have said,in my exeperince LOTRO is what you are looking for. It is free, and you can work in game towards content  and expansions without haveing to pay at all; or you have the option to purchase cotnent. PVP is limited to the moors, so in that way it is optional. There are lots of human driven events, but depending on the server you are on and possibly the guild/Kin you are with. It is a fairly healthy community populations wise for an older game, mostly full of mature players.

Hope that helps.

edit: DDO is also another great choice. Made by the same compay as LOTRO with the same content philosophy of working towards content ingame instead having to buy it all. Have nto played DDO for a couple years, but at that tiem the community was helpful and communative.

 

  zomard100

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2/22/13 2:31:14 PM#38
Originally posted by Epicent
Originally posted by zomard100
WOW girls WOW. World of warcraft is  best mmorpg ever made and you will enjoy it for many years. You have so much to there, rest is just a shadow compared with this magic world. 10 million players around the world create largest gaming comunity, do not be fooled with new games and awesome graphics.

^^^^^^^^ Is this even a real answer? I wouldn't take advice from fanboys although it does concur with the advice I have given.  Definitely make your choice based on non biasism instead of garbage like this. No offense friend.

No problem, people like you can never offend me. I don't take you seriously. I just gave my opinion what is best game on the market and if you have problem with that i do not care

  Spiersberg

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OP  2/22/13 2:32:30 PM#39
Originally posted by LIOKI
Research? write them on a piece of paper, blindfold yourself and throw a dart,done. 

Yeah, I know it'll be hard, but I can endure this :)

Thanks again. I'm amazed!

  MightyChasm

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2/22/13 2:32:44 PM#40
Originally posted by zomard100
Originally posted by Epicent
Originally posted by zomard100
WOW girls WOW. World of warcraft is  best mmorpg ever made and you will enjoy it for many years. You have so much to there, rest is just a shadow compared with this magic world. 10 million players around the world create largest gaming comunity, do not be fooled with new games and awesome graphics.

^^^^^^^^ Is this even a real answer? I wouldn't take advice from fanboys although it does concur with the advice I have given.  Definitely make your choice based on non biasism instead of garbage like this. No offense friend.

No problem, people like you can never offend me. I don't take you seriously. I just gave my opinion what is best game on the market and if you have problem with that i do not care

But you do or you would have ignored it.  Nevermind though, idiots all over the internet. 

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