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News & Features Discussion  » [Interview] DUST 514: CCP Wants to Change the Universe

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  Theocritus

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8/20/12 12:28:09 PM#121
     Bleh consoles....
  Malcanis

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"A very special kind of stupidity"

8/20/12 2:53:08 PM#122

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144596

Rumours/speculation/news of a Dust 514 PC beta being prepared for 2013 in China. I can't read Chinese so I can't vouch, but thought you all might be interested.

Give me liberty or give me lasers

  Sleepyfish

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8/20/12 11:57:05 PM#123
Originally posted by Acidon

Gotta admit.. For all the "hate" in here, there is sure a lot of feelings for this game.. regardless of positive or negative.  Look at all the replies!

Craaazy, man.. Crazy.

I do not hate it because I think it will suck, it will probably be ok. I am pissed because one an online shooter is not exactly an proven formula for success. I hate it because it is a project I believe  will do meh at best and it is killing WOD which actually has a rabid fan following who has wanted an mmo for well.. since mmorpgs started coming out. We were going to make this awsome game everyone wanted, but nvm instead we are making this game no one cares about.

  Zinzan

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8/21/12 10:11:14 AM#124
PS3 only, no thanks.

Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy :)

  ITPalg

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8/21/12 3:12:37 PM#125

It has constantly been said that Microsoft's handling of their network, their rules, etc is what probably made CCP go with Sony.

Blame MS' rules/structure/whatever, not CCP. If MS had a more attractive offering for what CCP needs to do, then they would have gone with MS.

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  Letifer007

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8/21/12 5:35:22 PM#126
Final Fantasy XI Online was/is crossed with PC and PlayStation 2 users at the same time.  The idea of cross platform gaming is awesome, but like you said, it almost never happens.  I would have liked Dust 514 to be on the PC as well.  I've played EVE online, it's one of those games that makes you dream about how big it COULD be.  But it's been called a nitche game, and dreams stay just that...
  ogreslayer

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8/22/12 1:38:48 PM#127
Originally posted by afropuff420

"My only problem with the game? PS3-only. We can't have our cake and eat it too, can we?"

 

Kills it for me again and again. I was so hyped when I heard the original concept. I think this is the biggest mistake ever. Oh well - on to other things.

This is going to be the game's overarching issue. The PS3 has the smaller install base for starters and while I don't think they are going to replace it before Holiday 2014 that really isn't that far away. Just see a soon to be pretty integrated function for their universe dying off fairly quickly unless they get a PC variant out.... Plus by going Console you get the whole console players get raped by PC ones issue due to the input differences.

 

  AtrusV

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8/22/12 5:43:38 PM#128

Just tell me why can't I get rid off microbes.... I mean, DUST players, with my battleship, dreadnought, or Titan, performing an orbital bombardment until there is no one left?

And how do they reach the planets if I block the system?

  sdeleon515

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8/22/12 8:41:50 PM#129

I think most users are forgetting that there are restrictions when using the Xbox live network placed on how updates, releases and expansions are approached. Additionally there are fees to be paid to simply have a game hosted on Xbox whereas this is an exactly different issue as well.

I also don't think that Dust514 is something that should be treated as a "FPS game so move on" as it seems to have a bit of the mmo variant element to it. Can't say for certain but the idea of fighting on contested planets that impact the Eve universe and vice-versa does make it at least news worthy in an mmo sections. 

As a few posters already noted, the idiotic hate people hold for a game and calling it a potential failure is really, really sad given it's free and that the PS3 is allowing them to do so without the paying a certification fee nor additional stringent requirements like Xbox and to be supported ona console that is also the more heavily dominant area in attracting FPS players.

If you're going to whine, moan and complain about something that *IS FREE* then there really is no pleasing you =/

  Craynon

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8/23/12 4:57:29 AM#130
CCP chose Sony and PS3 because they were more cooperative: they wanted cross-platform multiplayer, hosted on CCPs own servers but Microsoft refused so Sony were chosen instead.
  VultureSkull

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8/24/12 5:02:57 AM#131

How long has Eve been going now? Since 2003, nearly 10 years.

What is the average life span of a PS3 game? One year.

How long has Counter Strike on the PC been going? Before Eve. And people still play it. As they do with the orignal BattleField.

How many people that play FPSes seriously use a PS3 Controller to play?

 

With a little joined up thinking it is clear to even the most naive of gamers that Dust will not be around for long in its currnet console form.

I find it a crying shame that Dust was not developed for the PC, it would have been a monumental time in the history of PC gaming.

 

  Loktofeit

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8/24/12 8:40:56 AM#132
Originally posted by AtrusV

Just tell me why can't I get rid off microbes.... I mean, DUST players, with my battleship, dreadnought, or Titan, performing an orbital bombardment until there is no one left?

In the near future

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  Agricola1

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8/24/12 10:18:24 AM#133
I think I'm going to copyright the phrase "Bit the Dust 514" before it releses, if I could get $1 for everytime that phrse will be used on this site alone I could retire to the Cayman islands!

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

CS Lewis

  xpowderx

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2/19/13 9:17:09 PM#134

Ok, have a few things to answer considering the posts above me. I play both EVE and Dust514.

Some of the comments above are  incorrect. First, XBOX 360ies are not as popular as the PS3. Just in the past 3 months Sony has sold 77 million PS3's to Microsofts 74 million. Second, there are alot of Dust players.  They also do not care if you want it on the PC or not. They prefer it exclusive PS3. They also enjoy the game alot!

 

If it were on the PC then Dust would be horrible. Within the first week you would see bots, hacks and exploits. Why CCP went to Microsoft and Sony to begin with. Why PC FPS is something that needs to be worked on! Dust stands alone compared to its PC counterparts.

Imagine hacks and or exploits if it were on the PC. I know the losing end EVE corps would not be very happy!

 

As to what Dust is. By full release Dust can be called a MMOFPS. As by design it is both a MMORPG(Sandbox,PVE, Hi sec,Low sec, nul sec) and a FPS.

As to the negative hype. I remember a very long time ago when I saw the same negativity about EVE. How did that work out? One thing about CCP, they will make it work out. Just as they have done with EVE through the years. Dust will be around a long long time!

 

 

 
 

Success is your proof;
courage is your armour;
go on, go on, in my strength;
& ye shall turn not back for any!
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  Precusor

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2/19/13 11:55:28 PM#135
shouldn't this be at FPSGuru?
  Malcanis

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2/20/13 8:16:43 AM#136
It's extremely amusing to contrast the "Dust will fail because CCP had the insolence to develop a game for a machine I don't own and I'm incredibly butthurt about it" posts with the fact that Dust already has over 1 million accounts created.

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