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  nariusseldon

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2/19/13 1:04:30 PM#21
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Isturi

Hey I just report what I read. Bungie calles Destiny a MMO not me. Who am I to say otherwise?

Bungie has never called the game an MMO. The official term they use to describe it is "a shared-world shooter." They're avoiding the term "MMO" altogether and I don't blame them at all. It's got too much baggage.

They just want to make a fun online shooter with some social functions. I am glad they are not dragging MMO (although the gaming press is) into it.

Gaming press isn't. Hacks that think they are gaming press are. ;)

 

hahahah ... small distinction.

Back to the topic .. the topic is flawed. Bungie never wants a piece of the MMO pie, since there is not much pie anyway. They are shooting for much bigger fish.

 

  MMOExposed

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2/19/13 1:11:42 PM#22

on the main site it say this game is coming to

PS3

360

720

PS4

WiiU

 

so thats a lot of systems. I am interested in how it will work on the three next gen systems.

  Zyzra

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2/19/13 1:15:36 PM#23
Originally posted by MMOExposed

on the main site it say this game is coming to

PS3

360

720

PS4

WiiU

 

so thats a lot of systems. I am interested in how it will work on the three next gen systems.

Care to link to what you believe the "main site" is?

On the http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy pre order page it only lists Xbox 360 and PS3.  Couldn't find any news of other platforms on destinythegame.com.

Bungie.net didn't have any other systems listed either.

So again, link what you feel the "main site" is and where they state it's coming to any system other than PS3 and Xbox 360.

  MMOExposed

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2/19/13 1:18:49 PM#24
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by MMOExposed

on the main site it say this game is coming to

PS3

360

720

PS4

WiiU

 

so thats a lot of systems. I am interested in how it will work on the three next gen systems.

Care to link to what you believe the "main site" is?

On the http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy pre order page it only lists Xbox 360 and PS3.  Couldn't find any news of other platforms on destinythegame.com.

Bungie.net didn't have any other systems listed either.

So again, link what you feel the "main site" is and where they state it's coming to any system other than PS3 and Xbox 360.

http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy

View the source code for this page. Ctrl-F "platform", you'll find it.

  McGamer

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"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering" -Master Yoda

2/19/13 1:20:41 PM#25
Originally posted by nariusseldon

Bungie seems to know how to make fun games. But we shall see.

I hope they are not shackled by MMO conventions like raids, guilds, world zones, and what-not, but make a fun MP game.

Guilds have never been a "shackle" for MMOs. In fact they are the opposite, they are what makes MMOs more interactive and sociable. 

If you don't like guilds, play a console game.

If anything, Destiny needs to stay away from the multi-guild membership crud that a couple newer MMOs have tried which is ridiculous and only breeds drama and disloyalty.

  nariusseldon

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2/19/13 1:33:10 PM#26
Originally posted by Czanrei

If you don't like guilds, play a console game.

 

I will play whatever is fun to me.

  Zyzra

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2/19/13 1:41:34 PM#27
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by MMOExposed

on the main site it say this game is coming to

PS3

360

720

PS4

WiiU

 

so thats a lot of systems. I am interested in how it will work on the three next gen systems.

Care to link to what you believe the "main site" is?

On the http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy pre order page it only lists Xbox 360 and PS3.  Couldn't find any news of other platforms on destinythegame.com.

Bungie.net didn't have any other systems listed either.

So again, link what you feel the "main site" is and where they state it's coming to any system other than PS3 and Xbox 360.

http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy

View the source code for this page. Ctrl-F "platform", you'll find it.

So you think this will be on Wii U and VITA?  lol ok.  I don't see in any way how this says it is coming to those, at all.  It lists them, sure but in no way does the main site say it is coming to those like you said.

Oh well!

  MMOExposed

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2/19/13 1:43:16 PM#28
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by MMOExposed

on the main site it say this game is coming to

PS3

360

720

PS4

WiiU

 

so thats a lot of systems. I am interested in how it will work on the three next gen systems.

Care to link to what you believe the "main site" is?

On the http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy pre order page it only lists Xbox 360 and PS3.  Couldn't find any news of other platforms on destinythegame.com.

Bungie.net didn't have any other systems listed either.

So again, link what you feel the "main site" is and where they state it's coming to any system other than PS3 and Xbox 360.

http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy

View the source code for this page. Ctrl-F "platform", you'll find it.

So you think this will be on Wii U and VITA?  lol ok.  I don't see in any way how this says it is coming to those, at all.  It lists them, sure but in no way does the main site say it is coming to those like you said.

Oh well!

well its on the mainsite's platform list, just hidden. Obivously they cant speak about the 720 and PS4 versions because of NDA. But whats stopping it from coming to the WiiU and Vita as well?

  Cacaphony

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2/19/13 1:47:43 PM#29

There are those that say is most definatley NOT an MMO.

"Activision Publishing boss Eric Hirshberg says it's not an MMO. No, it most definitely is not an MMO. And Activision most definitely will not charge a subscription fee for it."

From this article on Eurogamer. : Eurogamer

Also just sharing what I found on da interwebz.

  MMOExposed

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2/19/13 1:49:47 PM#30
Originally posted by Cacaphony

There are those that say is most definatley NOT an MMO.

"Activision Publishing boss Eric Hirshberg says it's not an MMO. No, it most definitely is not an MMO. And Activision most definitely will not charge a subscription fee for it."

From this article on Eurogamer. : Eurogamer

Also just sharing what I found on da interwebz.

I get the GW1 feeling again, that the developers will say its not a MMO, but no matter how much they say this, sites like this and other sites will continue to call it a MMO, and the community will also believe its a MMO, until the point that the definition of what a MMO is changes to fit this title.

 

watch....

  Zyzra

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Posts: 363

2/19/13 1:49:48 PM#31
Originally posted by MMOExposed

well its on the mainsite's platform list, just hidden. Obivously they cant speak about the 720 and PS4 versions because of NDA. But whats stopping it from coming to the WiiU and Vita as well?

The source code includes a list of platforms, yes.  That in no way is any indiciation that the game is coming to those platforms.

 

Let me ask you this, how the hell could Destiny possibly run on Vita from a hardware standpoint?

  Loktofeit

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2/19/13 1:50:02 PM#32

Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by MMOExposed

on the main site it say this game is coming to

PS3

360

720

PS4

WiiU

 

so thats a lot of systems. I am interested in how it will work on the three next gen systems.

Care to link to what you believe the "main site" is?

On the http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy pre order page it only lists Xbox 360 and PS3.  Couldn't find any news of other platforms on destinythegame.com.

Bungie.net didn't have any other systems listed either.

So again, link what you feel the "main site" is and where they state it's coming to any system other than PS3 and Xbox 360.

http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy

View the source code for this page. Ctrl-F "platform", you'll find it.

That's a standard Activision (ATVI) script.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=155266

Do some research, people.

  Cacaphony

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Joined: 4/07/10
Posts: 751

2/19/13 1:51:13 PM#33


Originally posted by MMOExposed

Originally posted by Cacaphony There are those that say is most definatley NOT an MMO. "Activision Publishing boss Eric Hirshberg says it's not an MMO. No, it most definitely is not an MMO. And Activision most definitely will not charge a subscription fee for it." From this article on Eurogamer. : Eurogamer Also just sharing what I found on da interwebz.
I get the GW1 feeling again, that the developers will say its not a MMO, but no matter how much they say this, sites like this and other sites will continue to call it a MMO, and the community will also believe its a MMO, until the point that the definition of what a MMO is changes to fit this title.

 

watch....



It could go down quite possibly as you describe. I just thought I would share my findings as well. Thats all. :)

  MMOExposed

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2/19/13 1:51:58 PM#34
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by MMOExposed

well its on the mainsite's platform list, just hidden. Obivously they cant speak about the 720 and PS4 versions because of NDA. But whats stopping it from coming to the WiiU and Vita as well?

The source code includes a list of platforms, yes.  That in no way is any indiciation that the game is coming to those platforms.

 

Let me ask you this, how the hell could Destiny possibly run on Vita from a hardware standpoint?

you dont even know what kind of game the Vita version would be..... you do know Vita has Black Opps right? doesnt mean its the same game as the console version....

 

cant tell if you being serious or just joking with me. but

 

oh well. I did answer your question though right?

  nariusseldon

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2/19/13 1:52:17 PM#35
Originally posted by Zyzra

Let me ask you this, how the hell could Destiny possibly run on Vita from a hardware standpoint?

Reduce the graphical fidelity? Simplified model geometry. Worse textures. It has been done before, you know.

  nariusseldon

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2/19/13 1:54:45 PM#36
Originally posted by MMOExposed
 

I get the GW1 feeling again, that the developers will say its not a MMO, but no matter how much they say this, sites like this and other sites will continue to call it a MMO, and the community will also believe its a MMO, until the point that the definition of what a MMO is changes to fit this title.

 

watch....

I can live with that, as long as Bungie makes it a fun game and don't require a raid level commitment to have fun.

It is not like the MMO label is sacred or anything.

 

  Zyzra

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2/19/13 1:54:47 PM#37
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Zyzra

Let me ask you this, how the hell could Destiny possibly run on Vita from a hardware standpoint?

Reduce the graphical fidelity? Simplified model geometry. Worse textures. It has been done before, you know.

So Vita players will have a worse looking one, but still have it connect and play with people on consoles.

So which Vita game allows competitive play against Xbox 360 console players?  You said it has been done before, you know.

  MMOExposed

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2/19/13 1:56:02 PM#38
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by MMOExposed
 

I get the GW1 feeling again, that the developers will say its not a MMO, but no matter how much they say this, sites like this and other sites will continue to call it a MMO, and the community will also believe its a MMO, until the point that the definition of what a MMO is changes to fit this title.

 

watch....

I can live with that, as long as Bungie makes it a fun game and don't require a raid level commitment to have fun.

It is not like the MMO label is sacred or anything.

 

well in the future when you shopping for a new MMO, and you get a list of non MMOs calling themselves MMO based on this new definition, and your money gets wasted, year its a big deal.

  Zyzra

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2/19/13 1:56:04 PM#39
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by MMOExposed

on the main site it say this game is coming to

PS3

360

720

PS4

WiiU

 

so thats a lot of systems. I am interested in how it will work on the three next gen systems.

Care to link to what you believe the "main site" is?

On the http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy pre order page it only lists Xbox 360 and PS3.  Couldn't find any news of other platforms on destinythegame.com.

Bungie.net didn't have any other systems listed either.

So again, link what you feel the "main site" is and where they state it's coming to any system other than PS3 and Xbox 360.

http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy

View the source code for this page. Ctrl-F "platform", you'll find it.

That's a standard Activision (ATVI) script.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=155266

Do some research, people.

Thank you for clearing this up.  I didn't want people to jump to such huge conclusions about Destiny being a Vita/ Wii U game haha.  Good catch there.

  Laughing-man

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2/19/13 1:56:23 PM#40
Originally posted by Isturi

Of course by now the MMO pie is reduce to crumbs. First sentance and already we're being that negative?  Really? So anyways ya it is true Bungie the makers of Halo who was partnered with Microsoft has anounced that they will now set thier sites on the MMO market now with the introduction of Destiny.  

"It’s a large-scale MMO set in a post-apocalyptic world, but the gameplay and social interaction is supposed to be far more natural and fluid than other MMOs. There will apparently not be any subscription model, so gamers won’t have monthly fees to deal with, either."

I love the vote of confedince they give thier game all ready with the statement of no monthly fee's so basicly they just said that this MMO will not hold your attention long enought to want to subscribe. Well that is certainly another pessimistic way to interpet things, I see a pattern. Well hope they choose B2P then because F2P will mean P2W wich will spell out a very short life for Destiny. 3rd pessimistic assumption in 3 paragraphs, :-( I guess there is no such thing as a non pay to win free to play game?

The concept is "Some alien force nearly wiped out humanity, but a mysterious orb called the Traveler saved what’s left of our species. The Traveler appears dead, but the giant ball hangs over the city that humanity’s remnant cobbled together But apparently weren’t not alone, and the creatures on the outside of the city are trying to finish us off. Players start out as guardians of the city and are armed with some of the Traveler’s (very cool) weapons."

So it seems that this will be a MMOFPS??  There is a lot of footage of the actual game, you'd think someone trying to 'announce' something to the gamers here on the forums you'd have at least youtubed...

Anyways I hope the best for Bungie. Even though they are no longer part of Microsoft I am sure that they will be looking to them for some support. So they AREN'T tied into microsoft right now?  Yet you make the 4th pessimistic assumption in your post.  Asserting that 1. Microsoft can't be a good buisness partner, and 2. that they will have to sooner or later parter with Microsoft.

Lets take some of that negativity out of your editorial shall we? 

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