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  Ridelynn

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2/15/13 8:04:25 PM#21


Originally posted by EMT-P

Originally posted by Ridelynn You need to learn how Windows licenses work. What you just suggested, while may work, is illegal.
It's not if they grant you a license. Torrenting a license however IS illegal.

 


No, they don't grant you the license, you are "renewing" it under false pretenses.

OEM licenses, and Upgrade editions tied to OEM licenses, are permanently and irrevokably tied to the computer under which they are first installed (and by computer, Microsoft defines that as "motherboard" to the computer which the CoA sticker is attached - because OEM license requires you to affix the CoA sticker to the outside of the computer).

There's no legal way around that - the only loophole is that if your motherboard fails, your allowed to replace it with an identical model only (or if that model is no longer available, one similar to it as defined by the manufacturer honoring any repair or warranty claim).

A RETAIL edition can be transferred, it can only be installed on a single computer at one time, but it can be transferred legally, and this is the only way you can do this legally.

It's not that I'm against piracy by any large measure - but if your going to make recommendations, at least leave it up to the person who would be found guilty to decide if they want to take that step or not. Ignorance isn't an excuse that would hold up in court.

Even if you called and MS reactivated the license, that doesn't excuse the EULA - if MS decides to audit you (and they can do it remotely, every time your computer phones home for updates), they could, if they so choose, to verify your license. Even if they reactivated the license, if they discover it was an OEM license on it's second computer, it can be flagged for piracy, deactivated at any time, and there's the potential (although not a very high likelihood) of legal action.

  EMT-P

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2/15/13 8:11:09 PM#22
Originally posted by Ridelynn

You need to learn how Windows licenses work. What you just suggested, while may work, is illegal.

And I still find it amusing you want to save $20 on a motherboard by dropping to H77, but then spend $40 more on a 620W PSU - because you "can't skimp on a PSU", for a computer that likely will never draw 400W, and can't overclock.

 

 

Exactly, CANNOT overclock. Which is why you take out the board that's used to overclock. Your PSU is one of your most important pieces of hardware. There's no harm in going over on wattage, but there is going under the wattage. 

Also this PSU keeps the ability to upgrade in the future easy without having to buy a new PSU because you went for the lower and cheaper 400W instead.

  EMT-P

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2/15/13 8:17:41 PM#23
Originally posted by Ridelynn

 


Originally posted by EMT-P

Originally posted by Ridelynn You need to learn how Windows licenses work. What you just suggested, while may work, is illegal.
It's not if they grant you a license. Torrenting a license however IS illegal.

 

 


 

No, they don't grant you the license, you are "renewing" it under false pretenses.

OEM licenses, and Upgrade editions tied to OEM licenses, are permanently and irrevokably tied to the computer under which they are first installed (and by computer, Microsoft defines that as "motherboard" to the computer which the CoA sticker is attached - because OEM license requires you to affix the CoA sticker to the outside of the computer).

There's no legal way around that - the only loophole is that if your motherboard fails, your allowed to replace it with an identical model only (or if that model is no longer available, one similar to it as defined by the manufacturer honoring any repair or warranty claim).

A RETAIL edition can be transferred, it can only be installed on a single computer at one time, but it can be transferred legally, and this is the only way you can do this legally.

It's not that I'm against piracy by any large measure - but if your going to make recommendations, at least leave it up to the person who would be found guilty to decide if they want to take that step or not. Ignorance isn't an excuse that would hold up in court.

Even if you called and MS reactivated the license, that doesn't excuse the EULA - if MS decides to audit you (and they can do it remotely, every time your computer phones home for updates), they could, if they so choose, to verify your license. Even if they reactivated the license, if they discover it was an OEM license on it's second computer, it can be flagged for piracy, deactivated at any time, and there's the potential (although not a very high likelihood) of legal action.

 

Yes, true that is possible, I didn't know about that loophole though, that'll be something interesting to know for the future. As for them auditing you for it, I can see it happening. AS for bringing you to court for legal reasons over a 100$ Key. You're right probably not.

If OP still wants a build, he/she can post again and I'll remake it with case and OS included.

  Quizzical

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2/15/13 9:19:25 PM#24
Originally posted by EMT-P
Originally posted by Ridelynn

You forgot the case and operating system. Add another $140ish to that. Doesn't change my opinion, or the point of my previous post, though, and that is that your going to have to make a good deal of compromises to stick with those brand names that you don't necessarily need to make at that budget.

Also, some of those places I've never even heard of... maybe I just don't get out much. The prices are in the right ballpark though, which is all I was doing - ballparking.

And if you ~really~ want to nitpick - look at that power supply you picked out. Even at stock speeds, your really going to use that stock Intel heatsink?

Regardless, not my money, the OP can buy whatever they want. I'm just throwing out opinions.

OP can find a 50$ case max, and if OP already has an OEM version of an OS then he can reuse the key for that. If not I can scale down some of the items for him.

 

The PSU is fine, not sure what you are trying to get at Source: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

The absolute LAST thing you want to skimp out on is a PSU. If you skimp out and it underdraws power and shorts, say goodbye to half (if not all) your hardware.

And yes if OP isn't going to OC then stock heatsink fan is fine.

It's not a bad power supply.  The problem is that $83 is too much to pay for that particular power supply.  $83 is too much to pay for any power supply when you're on a $600 budget.  On that budget, you may need to go for something more budget-friendly:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Even if you're inclined to spend up for high quality, you can get that for cheaper than $83:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

You're not going to build a computer that needs a ton of wattage on a $600 budget, unless you go out of your way to do something stupid.

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