Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by Crazyhorsek

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by Elandir90

it won't become the biggest mmorpg around because, imo, its not a TES game at all. 

 

You can dress a mmo with the setting you so desire but if you have a strong game series focused on freedom of choice, seamsless open world, deep character progression, insane replayability and AMAZING modding community that pull off better mods than no expansion can top, there is no way you can pull it off using the same mechanics as every other MMO out there.

If there was a MMO that i was so eager to play  it was the TES mmo, but now they are releasing a generic crap with looks and names pretending to be a TES game. 

 

I dare you to name 1 freaking game franchise that comes close to TES in the RPG genre. There are better games, but none so epic and so open as TES. 

So yeah... TESO will be just like LOTRO, they will pack a pickle with chocolate wrappings. But hey you can still enjoy your pickle.

Very well said. I couldnt agree more.

 

One thing that is consistant in a discussion about TESO is that people keep bringing up DAOC.

DAOC had RvR, Realms, Faction Locked Zones, Classes, etc. Great. So what? I dont care what DAOC has.

This isnt Camelot. This. Is. TAMRIEL!

I dont care if there are similarities or if you can tweak and rework the Lore to make it work and fit together.

This is Elder Scrolls which is a unique and ORIGINAL IP. All on its own.

To change it in any way shape or form is doing it an injustice.

Especially as a base to remake/relaunch a 10 year old game that, in its heyday, was popular with only about 250k gamers.

 

An Elder Scrolls MMO shouldnt "remind me" of things done in DAOC, or WOW or GW2 or any other game.

An Elder Scrolls MMO should break new ground. Be a true "Next Generation" MMORPG. One that evolves the genre.

Not just rehashes the same old thing done over the last decade.

 

Lets see if you understand some basic concept here

Does it have "The Elder Scrolls" as part of the name? Yes. Then it is a TES game. I dont really care if you like it or not, if you play it or not, you prolly feel the same about me, but... the fact that you like it or not doesnt really mean that it isnt a TES game just because it doesnt fit YOUR idea of a "TES game". Is WoW a Warcraft game? Yes. Does it seem anything like the other warcrafts? No. Is it still a Warcraft game? Yes.

As much as it pains me, the Cayenne is a Porsche - it doesnt fit MY IDEA of a Porsche, but it is!

Again for the ADD crowd: Does it have "Elder Scrolls" as part of the name? Yes? Then it is a "TES" game.

Thanks

You obviously do care a great deal otherwise you wouldnt have replied to me by quoting and then telling me how much you "dont care"

And I doubt Ill be needing any basic concept understanding help from someone who uses the word "prolly" in a sentence when trying to simulate an intelligent argument.

Having TES in the title just makes it a TES game in name only.

You can roll a turd in candy sprinkles but it still isnt a party treat

I was talking about the game, not you. I dont care if you like it - the game - It still is a TES game.

Put it even in more simple terms - it doesnt matter if I like it, or what do I think of it, if it is a TES game or not - as long as it has TES on the name, its a TES game.

It was not about you - people are really sensitive these days lol... Actually its not about you, me or anyone else but Zenimax and Bethesda - if they say its a TES game, it is a TES game. Like that stupid Porsche Cayenne. Porsche says its a Porsche although I cant look at it as a Porsche - but is still a Porsche.

Got it?... maybe it was confusing...

Originally posted by muffins89
it already has more likes on facebook than GW2.  just sayin'. 

Thats prolly cause you can "unlike" after you taste the crap fest... lol... just sayin' :)

hehe

Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by Caliburn101

I am well versed in TES lore and have played all the games to death.

There really is no particular problem with calling the Dwemer, 'Dwarves'.

They are referred to as such in books found in TES games.

They are referred to as such by TES NPCs.

They built cities and armour etc. that had all the hallmarks of more traditional fantasy Dwarves with a dash of steampunk thrown in.

They lived underground and were great miners, smiths and architects - now which fantasy race does that remind me of, hmmm...

It is a litlt ridiculous to get hung up on the fact they were a race of Elves that acted JUST LIKE Dwarves for no better reason than putting people down and buffing your lore skillz till they outshine everyone elses (at least from one person's perspective eh!?).

Now lets let it go and talk about something constructive.

Well Elder Scrolls Dwemer or Dwarves were human sized i.e. same size as Dwarves.  The reason why certain elemts of lore talk of them a being is small is becasue they first to encounter them were giants.  But yea another name given to them by the new races of Nirn are Dwarves.

 

directly from the wiki:

Biology

The Dwemer are often referred to as "Dwarves" in western cultures, although they were no shorter than a human and the name seems to have been derived from a supposed encounter with giants who saw the Dwemer as short.

Those books ( author unknown)  were written out of passion for whatever sect, race,  that author was connected too.  There is biased shit in every book you read in the game.(s) It IS NOT FACT.   

Originally posted by Crazyhorsek

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Because it's another contrived themepark.

/thread

enter the "hipster trendy sandbox police". Sure... it will fail because its not "sandbox"... as you've seen, sandbox games have had TREMENDOUS success... lol

Yes I do hope that TESO will appeal to Darkfall / DAoC fans (actually DAoC players know how to pvp and like to pve as well) and leave all WoW carebears outside of it - yep thats my most sincere hope regarding TESO.

But... then again, how is that a bad thing?

Its a bad thing because you need the carebears money to keep your game solvent.

Originally posted by muffins89
it already has more likes on facebook than GW2.  just sayin'. 

Hype doesn't neccessarily have to correlate with the quality and success of the end product.

I wonder how many TES players that are used to an immersive single player PvE experience will eventually be disappointed with the PvP centered multiplayer TESO.

Originally posted by Findariel

Originally posted by muffins89
it already has more likes on facebook than GW2.  just sayin'. 

Hype doesn't neccessarily have to correlate with the quality and success of the end product.

I wonder how many TES players that are used to an immersive single player PvE experience will eventually be disappointed with the PvP centered multiplayer TESO.

It really doesn't correlate, SWTOR currently have 2.1 millions likes on Facebooks. The last sales number of SWTOR before it turned F2P was around 2 millions copies.

GW2 sales are over 3 millions after 6 months...