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  xenorace

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Joined: 7/06/08
Posts: 171

1/20/13 1:54:11 PM#21
Originally posted by Teala

If you are looking for any depth in the game of Planetside - stay far away from this game.   It is so shallow and so pointless - SOE added nothing to this game that would keep a person playing - at all.  

Right now, after playing my share of PS2, I feel as though I am playing a game where each continent is like a game of BF2 or COD with the maps connected to one another. There is no substance to the game to actually measure your results. We take bases, and seconds later some guy on a Flash is back hacking what we just took. It is pointless to defend. So people just keep zerging to the next base.

So when is SOE going to add a system where conquering and holding territory is possible and is important that the faction not only conquer the land - but defend it as well? Where is the substance to keep people playing?

The game does not promote team play.
The game only promotes zerging.
The game does not support strategy.
The game only supports the zerg.

When will SOE add game play that has meaning to it? Or is all this game really is, is just what I describe, a continuous game of running COD and BF2 style maps?

It gets frustrating when for two or three hours you slog your way through a continent, only to see all the effort wiped out in a few minutes simply because their are a couple of people riding around on Flashes re-capping what you just took.

I am working on my review of this game as I write this and I know people will not like what I have to say about Planetside - it's cool - if you like playing a game that is shallower than any game ever put on the market - good for you.

SOE has said that PS2 is a FPS first and an MMO second. That being said the game turns into repeatitive FPS action. While zerging is the most effective way to take continents, PS2 is far from just zergs. I and my outfit have ran in just a squad of 12 and held off platoons with strategy and quick thinking....however we have been blown over by platoons as well.

PS2 is what you make it out to be in your own mind. Yes it can be grindy with certs. Yes it can be very repeatitive. Yes it can be just like a COD on a large scale map, but the game can also be much more with teamwork and logical thinking.

SOE has built a CORE game. Most core games are basic, and do 1 or 2 things great. In PS2 case it is actually a very solid shooter. Bugs, hell ya they are there. I am confident that SOE will smooth most out. Jan 30th is a big update. Adding weapons, changing spawn rooms, adding a tunnel system in bases, and working out a HUGE bug and performance overhaul. It's been stated the dev team has been able to eliminate 60gigs worth of RAM data usage during playtime. THAT IS HUGE for low end systems.

 

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  Vorthanion

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1/20/13 2:02:53 PM#22
I liked the idea of Planetside 1 more than Planetside 2, but I didn't like the implementation of either.  PS1 still remains the superior game despite its flaws.  My enjoyment of PS2 lasted through a couple weeks of beta and about three weeks of release.  It's been removed from my system and I have absolutely no desire to go back.

  Fearum

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1089

1/20/13 2:20:32 PM#23

Its a sandbox, your supposed to make your own story and fun.

 

I only played the game for a few hours and left. I think BF3 is light years better and still play it.

  senag2

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Joined: 1/21/06
Posts: 20

1/21/13 3:16:41 PM#24

This game is the first $OE game I played since SWG in 2006. Since I refuse to pay any money to these people I find this game pointless. Unless you play 12 hours a day and grind like crazy or pay them money, you won't get very far.

After 7 days of playing, I made Lvl 15 since you can't get many kills as a free player unless you are shooting at another free player who has bought no gear in the store. All the rest who do have gear will farm you and the rest of the non paying playerbase to oblivion.

 

Yes its quick action and fun at times but unless you are willing to cough the dough don't bother you WILL be meat to be grinded.

 

You have been warned.

 

  Swiftrevoir

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Joined: 8/13/05
Posts: 162

1/21/13 3:27:44 PM#25

I've been playing fairly steadily since launch and I will say this: Unless you join an outfit prepare to feel like you're on the outside of all the action.  This is because this game favors tactics and some planning.  The zerg will only get you so far.  As far as dumping money into the game?  I just started a new character and since I am already pretty practiced with the way of things I am getting more kills than ever because the weaponry caters more to my style.  I haven't put any money into him at all as opposed to dumping heaps into the one that is in my bigger outfit on another server.

Join platoons/squads or an outfit and follow the bloody waypoints.  Pay attention and listen for orders.  If you have a lack of things to do its because you aren't on the battlefield.  The civil war wasn't happening simultaneously on every inch of American soil at once.  There were specific battles that happened in points of interest at certain times.  And yes there are many many large scale battles happening at once.  If you aren't happy with the activity on your server go to Matherson or Connery.

  Neanderthal

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Joined: 2/14/05
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OP  1/21/13 5:14:21 PM#26

Because I started this thread I guess I'll update my status again. 

Since my last post I've completely lost interest and stopped playing it.  I had some fun moments here and there but overall it just wasn't enough fun to motivate me to keep logging in.

A big part of the problem is that the starter guns are just too freakin weak.  Probably this is partly due to the fact that more dedicated players are getting armor upgrades by this point either through earned certs or by paying. 

Part of it is the generally pointless feeling of it all as others have mentioned.

And probably some other things but I guess I'm not going to bother with any more analysis.  The bottom line is that I wasn't having much fun.  I know SOE wants me to fork over some cash for upgrades but if I'm not having fun to begin with I'm not going to spend money on upgrades hoping that by doing so the game will suddenly become more fun.

Also, to those who advised joining a guild.  I don't like joining guilds willy nilly.  I will only join a guild if I already know I'm going to be staying with a game for a long time and even then I'm reluctant because I've had bad experiences with guilds.  Anyway, the "fun" principle holds true here as well.  If I'm not already having fun I won't join a guild in hopes that that will make it fun.

So that's it.  I tried it and didn't like it enough to keep playing.

  tank017

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Joined: 7/09/06
Posts: 2206

1/21/13 5:22:38 PM#27

If you've played PS1 then you should know what to expect with PS2..

 

its appeal is its massive warfare scale,it doesnt have any depth beyond that,but really what shooter does?

 

the epicness of this game keeps me coming back,scenerio's that you wouldnt expect to happen just may actually happen.

 

 

If youre expecting some epic quest to go on for some big boss fights and phat lewtz,then youre in the wrong neighborhood.

 

 

I see it as a breath of fresh air and a nice break from the stagnant smelly swamp we call todays world of MMOs

  wrekognize

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Joined: 7/30/07
Posts: 385

1/21/13 5:27:11 PM#28
I had fun for a day.
  Swiftrevoir

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Joined: 8/13/05
Posts: 162

1/21/13 8:23:34 PM#29
T9-Carv for TR is seriously one of the most powerful and effective weapons in Planetside 2....and its a starter rifle.  Same with the Orion for Vanu, the rest are just specialty weapons that you may pick later with your developing talents.  I hate to be offensive but you sound like a noob who got frustrated too easily.  You're going to get blown up and thrown around to the wind like a rag doll caught in a hurricane until you calm down and learn the game.
  spizz

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Joined: 7/11/04
Posts: 2585

1/21/13 9:55:12 PM#30

I stopped playing PS2 aswell since New Year and actually I slowly lost interest already before Christmas.

Planetside 2 is still some kind of BETA for me like I said in the other closed thread before I could even get into more details. But in the meanwhile a lot of players just see that the game is just flashy at the beginning but lacks a lot of substance at the end, with really many issues from balance to architectonic missconcepts and missing gameplay features.

Iam speechless that older games, and in this case 10-12 year old ones,  like Planetside 1 or ww2online/Battleground Europe did offer such a superior metagame in comparison to a game almost released in 2013. They even had a predeccessor in form of Planetside 1 and instead they would take the chance to improve the game they actually crippled the game content and gameplay quality. They just released a BF/COD type limited gameplay whose very short game rounds on small maps just doesnt fit with an mmofps. A half finished game if you compare it to PS1 and such a boring one. An ingame shop with shiny new weapons wont cut it.

I did play Planetside 1 for a while and  ww2online/Battleground Europe for longer some years ago which had really epic battles, the greatness of victory/end of a campaign or to conquer the whole game world for one faction took sometimes four weeks with massive intense fights, until they focked up their own game, I did really love these mmofps games. These were the only two major mmofps on the market and people were just hoping for years that something already will be released with quality gameplay. The release of Planetside 2 is such a disappointment, biggest for me in 2012.

F2P..... better to pay for quality and someone still have to show me a game based on F2P which actually delivers great quality....have not seen a single  mmo so far and most are crappy asian grinders. Wonder how they will change Planetside 1 into a F2P game....Iam sceptical after I have seen PS2.

  Neanderthal

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Joined: 2/14/05
Posts: 1613

 
OP  1/22/13 9:36:23 AM#31
Originally posted by Swiftrevoir
  I hate to be offensive but you sound like a noob....

Heh, ok so I'm a noob.  Feel better?  You're right, I'm too dim witted to be playing this video game.  I better just leave it to you experts.  You know I wanted to get my degree in video-game-ology but the local community college didn't offer it.  Tell me, could I play the game with just a masters degree or do I need to go for my Phd?

  Meridion

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Joined: 6/22/06
Posts: 1501

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2/06/13 11:13:01 AM#32
heavy starter gun is one of the best rifles in game, certs for that class are mostly utility with no improvements to stopping power or armor...

engineer and medic are useful from day 1, heavy tanks are competetive in stock loadout... even light assault kicks in stock setup.

the only viable argument is aircraft... those suck without certs. to people complaining about infantry I can only rolleyes
  Luperza

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Joined: 3/12/08
Posts: 25

2/06/13 11:55:08 AM#33

We recently implemented a new system that allows you to see where the action is happening. You'll notice a lot of little dots that indicate where the enemies are on the main map (when you hit M). The more dots the more enemies and action are in that area! 

I also recomend finding an outfit that really works with your playstyle and playtime. There are tons of them, so I'm sure you'll find one that suits your needs! They also provide a lot of information that isn't as well known amongst lone-wolfers. <3

Let me know if you still have concerns. :) 

Margaret "Luperza" Krohn
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  ericbelser

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Joined: 11/11/08
Posts: 790

2/06/13 5:09:31 PM#34

Since you're watching and I have played a bit more than casually the past two weeks or so...

Biggest issue:

What is the point? ATM there is no reward for defending and often no advantage to it. The bases are incredibly badly laid out for defense; honestly they are more like obstacle courses for infantry fights. The strategic advantages for holding an area are far too little to be incentive enough on their own.

Secondary issues:

You kind of missed on the spawn camping issues; in many cases the spawns are no harder to camp than they ever were and as part of the change you actually made it easier to bypass defenders/pin spawns in some places.

Engineers get way too little exp for repairing - no other profession has to make as big a target of themselves for snipers just to do their primary function

Base turrets have too few HP; vehicles really shouldn't be able to beat a fixed emplacement in a straight stand up slug match. Also, turrets should be able to elevate/depress to cover most of the angles they can be shot from - many of them are ridiculously blocked by their own base atm.

Your recent change to stealth cloaks is broken; anyone with middling to poor GFX can see stealthers clear as day now.

The assorted breathing mechanics and bolt action rifles applying only to Infils makes other profs with battle rifles/carbines more effective snipers in a great many situations - this is just wrong

Drop pods need to either go away or be more steerable; nothing is sillier than dying 10secs after you drop in because you just couldn't land anyplace that wasn't ground zero for a ton of firepower

De-grease the tank treads already! Not sure what changed recently, but tanks shouldn't slide down roads, off corners and such the way they do now.

Increase the elevation range on vehicle secondaries - the primary historical purpose of the commanders guns was as AA; as it stands most of them cannot elevate enough to hit aircraft

Lower aircraft armor/hp nearly across the board; watching tank main gun rounds and arty hit aircraft and not kill them is just sad. AA is grossly underpowered by comparison.

 

That's my short list :)

 

 

 

 

 

  User Deleted
2/08/13 12:03:54 AM#35

Once you get over the games "awesome factor" meaning your new game experience is going to be full with a lot of cool battles, fun stuff happening, and occasionally some stunning moments when you realize just how big the battle your a part of is...the game starts to get stale rather quick.

 

There is just little in terms of meaningful progression.  Even less in terms of strategy, and far less in terms of depth to what you are doing in game.  Farm kills, flip bases, rinse repeate.  It gets old eventually, and interest in playing decreases untill you get distracted with another game and forget about PS2...which is what happend to me.

Logged in recently, checked my certs, had everything i really needed.  Checked the cash shop for guns, nothing much new that looked appealing to work for.  Checked the map, hopped into a battle, just couldnt get into it since i knew the outcome the second i hit the ground.

 

 

 

  Gravarg

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2/08/13 12:08:05 AM#36
I played for about 2 weeks and there's just something missing.  I have no clue what it is, but I played PlanetSide for over a year.  In PS2, I'm just not hooked.  I used to be a pilot.  I would fly around transporting troops, but noone seems to want to do that anymore :(
  Agricola1

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2/08/13 9:28:43 AM#37
Originally posted by Neanderthal

Because I started this thread I guess I'll update my status again. 

Since my last post I've completely lost interest and stopped playing it.  I had some fun moments here and there but overall it just wasn't enough fun to motivate me to keep logging in.

A big part of the problem is that the starter guns are just too freakin weak.  Probably this is partly due to the fact that more dedicated players are getting armor upgrades by this point either through earned certs or by paying. 

Part of it is the generally pointless feeling of it all as others have mentioned.

And probably some other things but I guess I'm not going to bother with any more analysis.  The bottom line is that I wasn't having much fun.  I know SOE wants me to fork over some cash for upgrades but if I'm not having fun to begin with I'm not going to spend money on upgrades hoping that by doing so the game will suddenly become more fun.

Also, to those who advised joining a guild.  I don't like joining guilds willy nilly.  I will only join a guild if I already know I'm going to be staying with a game for a long time and even then I'm reluctant because I've had bad experiences with guilds.  Anyway, the "fun" principle holds true here as well.  If I'm not already having fun I won't join a guild in hopes that that will make it fun.

So that's it.  I tried it and didn't like it enough to keep playing.

Do you play on EU or US servers? If EU then send me a pm and I'll get you an invite to our outfit, in fact if you're in the US but don't mind playing on an EU server then you can join. We are fighting everyday, there's plenty of people to help and you'll always find battles since we are part of the Terran Republic Alliance that co-ordinates the destruction of the NC and VS.

Just create a Terran Republic char on woodman server and send me a PM on MMORPG.com.

Playing PS2 solo gets old very quickly as you've discovered, you need to be part of an outfit and even if our outfit isn't for you you'll get some idea of what the other outfits are like and can pick one that suits you,

See you on Auraxis soldier,

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  MadAce

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2/09/13 10:25:24 AM#38
Originally posted by Gravarg
I played for about 2 weeks and there's just something missing.  I have no clue what it is, but I played PlanetSide for over a year.  In PS2, I'm just not hooked.  I used to be a pilot.  I would fly around transporting troops, but noone seems to want to do that anymore :(

I'm in a dedicated drop troopers outfit. Plenty of Gal flying. I see Gals all the time.

  Luperza

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2/12/13 5:08:39 PM#39
Originally posted by Gravarg
I played for about 2 weeks and there's just something missing.  I have no clue what it is, but I played PlanetSide for over a year.  In PS2, I'm just not hooked.  I used to be a pilot.  I would fly around transporting troops, but noone seems to want to do that anymore :(

I recommend finding an outfit that is looking for a pro Galaxy pilot. :) There are a ton of outfits that would love for you to do what it seems like you already enjoy. 

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  ericbelser

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Joined: 11/11/08
Posts: 790

2/15/13 1:34:34 PM#40

I just have to add this: since the most recent round of patches either you have had a massive influx of hackers or you introduced one massive bug.

I am routinely getting killed by non-infils who are totally invis, even while they are firing. I assume it is a bug, related to the new rendering problem where people are just suddenly popping on screen at 20m or less...these just aren't rendering at all even as they kill you lol.

(and no, it's not my machine...it wasn't happening a week+ ago)

 

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