Trending Games | The Crew | Landmark | Elder Scrolls Online | Neverwinter

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,848,649 Users Online:0
Games:732  Posts:6,222,969
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Puzzle Pirates Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

News & Features Discussion  » [Column] Elder Scrolls Online: The Solo Game

5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Search
92 posts found
  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

2/12/13 12:46:51 PM#21
Not all single player games end.
  orbitxo

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/25/06
Posts: 1152

2/12/13 1:14:15 PM#22

I like solo gaming in an mmo eviroment=if that make sany sense.

GW2 is awsome at world exploration-  Tera lately has me exploring doin story questline. not sure how far ill get once the dungeons kick in.

Blizzard unfortunately emphesizes too much on social play with their mmo and not were its needed = (starcraft 2 co-op is highly needed) and makes their game too linear...

i hope ESO takes into consideration solo players.

  Amsai

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/16/11
Posts: 69

2/12/13 1:27:17 PM#23
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Not all single player games end.

I think she means single player rpgs end for all major gameplay/story/etc. And I think you probably actually realized it, you are just being difficult.

I agree with her. The single largest reason that I like to solo MMOs is because the story/game never ends. The closest non-mmo Ive found to this is TES series. However, you do eventually beat every challenge, find everything, do everything, max your progression, and gobble up the few DLC  additions.

I challenge you to name 1 single player rpg that excedes TES series (not just meets it) to the significant degree that I would be able to play it with continuous content updates for years. I actually can think of one other series that attemepts to do this (but its dated, and its only one!)

Tell you what, if you can convice some develpoers to come out with a game like Skyrim/Oblivion (maybe a bit more fleshed out battle system) that does allow up to 10 people multiplayer, and has a subscription model, and comes out with a huge world, with constant updates for YEARS !!! I would gladly let them take my money , leave MMOs for good, and never look back.

  Sovrath

Elite Member

Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 17116

2/12/13 1:36:00 PM#24
Originally posted by Amsai

Tell you what, if you can convice some develpoers to come out with a game like Skyrim/Oblivion (maybe a bit more fleshed out battle system) that does allow up to 10 people multiplayer, and has a subscription model, and comes out with a huge world, with constant updates for YEARS !!! I would gladly let them take my money , leave MMOs for good, and never look back.

me too me too!!!!!

  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

2/12/13 1:41:52 PM#25
I didn't say single player rpg. I said not all single player games have an end. Best example I can think of being minecraft, but you could also include any game with a heavy pvp element like starcraft or team fortress.

I also disagree that mmos don't end. Depends on mmo I guess, a game like eve doesn't, but a game like wow does - until the next expansion.
  Senadina

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/16/06
Posts: 884

2/12/13 2:52:07 PM#26
I just want to add to the random loot thought. I want truly random loot: i.e  random stats like in Diablo. I am sick of the WoW model of every Axe of Hacking or whatever having the exact same stats. It makes the item hunt more engaging if it is truly random.

  Gel214th

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/11/07
Posts: 168

2/12/13 3:25:33 PM#27

Yes. None of this makes the game seem to be Solo Friendly in any way. At all.

 

"The best part of Skyrim for me is picking a direction and wandering down a path. It really opens up your gameplay experience. It makes you think, and you can enjoy the game on your own without following question marks and exclamation points. If you stumble into a quest, great, if not you kind of make your own up. I have enjoyed this type of gameplay in other games as well."

 

I don't play Skyrim like this, and I actually hate games that don't have clearly defined objectives and waypoints. I use the Journal in Skyrim and the Fast Travel system a lot. The quests I have gotten have all been either given directly according to a storyline, or were very close to the areas where I was doing a main quest anyway. Then there are the prompted quests where couriers or NPCs actually approach you and give you a quest. 

 

Players will simply create a Third Party website with a list of ALL the quests in a zone, and the locations of the NPCs. Therefore this will just force players to have a second window open and Alt Tab or print quest locations and information. Tedious and unnecessary. MMO development over the last 10 years has already idenfitied that the majority of players want easy and quick access to quests and objective information. Every MMO that has launched without this has retrofitted it after the fact (and a looking for group system). ESO could very well offer a "purist" option to turn everything off for those who don't want the icons and information that we're accustomed to. 

 

I would hate to have limited time and end up wandering the world for an hour without ever finding a quest of my level and just attacking random camps and groups. The idea of a progressing storyline that my character plays a part in is what I like about RPGs. Skyrim has this, and so do most MMORPGs. Guild Wars 2 has done a fantastic job of having a personalised story, as has SWTOR (probably the only thing they got really right in that MMO). 

 

The interface was also a failing in Skyrim (and Morrowind,and Fallout New Vegas in my view). It was fairly terrible from a usability perspective. SkyUI for Skyrim fixed this a bit, but it was still very clunky to use on the PC. I still wish for a standard MMO interface for Skyrim, with a hotbar, minimap and normal WASD + mouse controls with active combat and a proper third person view. I am hoping that ESO provides this :-)

 

"If you are playing solo though, this is a major part of the game. It is all about being self-sufficient. My main character in Skyrim has both 100 Blacksmithing and 100 Enchanting."

 

And now Crafting is supposed to be a draw for the Solo Player? I never craft in MMOs. I hate it. I prefer to buy what I want with Gold, buy and sell on the Auction House or get by in other ways. In Skyrim I do quests to get Daedric and other high level weapons and armor and build my weapon and armor skills to do more damage and get more protection. Crafting in an MMORPG involves grinding. It is one of the classic time and money sinks that designers build into Subscription based MMOs. Going out and searching for resource nodes, killing multiple enemies to collect materials and ingredients etc. Not my style of play, and I really don't see this as making a game geared for the Solo Player.

 

Sure, if you grind like hell you could maybe get the same gear as someone that groups up and runs a dungeon. But in my view grouping up and running the dungeon is more fun with way less time. So actually what you are saying here is that the Solo player will be at a distinct disadvantage. It will take them a lot more time to get similar gear, and most likely cost a lot more in materials as well.

 

Now if this article indicated that the dungeons and other content will scale to my Solo playstyle I would cheer and note one feature geared for the Solo player. It does not seem that this is the case with Elder Scrolls Online, though.

 

Secondly, the game needs a robust auction house and trading post for players to sell their items. Not a real world style market with "storefronts" that you need to wander through to find something. Reality check, in 2012 people use the virtual and quick online markets known as Amazon, Craigslist and Ebay to find what they want. The new ways are more efficient. There are several MMOs that have integrated auction house and trading systems. Copy one of them. 

 

Thus far I think Guild Wars 2 has the best trading post and delivery system I've seen in any MMORPG. It's the most efficient and flexible of them all out the box. Each player setting up a little store building that players must wander around clicking to see what is for sale is ridiculous, in my view. If that is what ESO is proposing then it's definitely not a buy for me. 

 

"Random Loot"

 

Really? This article goes way off course with this point. Since when is Random Loot aimed at the Solo Player? It isn't. It is part of the normal loot system of the game and is not in anyway something included in MMOs to benefit the single player. Loot SCALING is something different, and that too is expected. Also Random Loot without the aforementioned auction and trading post system will result in third party auction sites (that will provide the services that an in -game trading systme should) or indecipherable Trading Channel chat spam.  

 

From the article I have gathered that as far as the author knows, ESO contains no specific features and mechanics for the Solo player and is a Group based MMO focusing on Open World exploration. i.e. not my style of play, which tends more toward the Guild Wars 2, Rift, Neverwinter Online (from what I have seen in preview videos) playstyle. In those games I can play Solo, Duo or in a larger group and have a fantastic experience. From this article it seems that as a Solo Player I'm pretty much screwed in ESO, things will be a lot harder for me, and I'm not a masochist ;-) 

 

Hoping that I am wrong about that! 

 
 
  WellzyC

Novice Member

Joined: 10/04/11
Posts: 546

Ceaseless

2/12/13 3:48:17 PM#28

 

"Stats show that more players are playing solo".

 

    Thats because the games that are coming out in recent years are buidling their gameplay around solo play, not because of what players find more enjoyable.

 

Grouping has become counter productive, it's less exp, makes the encounter too easy,  and they have systems like anti social dungeon finders. Play any of the old school games where they reward you for grouping.

 

Make grouping always the better exp, better loot, and a better experience and I promise you that stats will show players prefer grouping.

 

 

The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.

The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, Linear Questing, Cut-Scenes...


www.CeaselessGuild.com

  bcbully

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7194

2/12/13 3:51:55 PM#29
You should not be able to craft everything solo. It kills the community and economy.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Gel214th

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/11/07
Posts: 168

2/12/13 3:54:18 PM#30
Originally posted by WellzyC

 

"Stats show that more players are playing solo".

 

    Thats because the games that are coming out in recent years are buidling their gameplay around solo play, not because of what players find more enjoyable.

 

Grouping has become counter productive, it's less exp, makes the encounter too easy, Anti social dungeon finders. Play any of the old school games and grouping is much more preferred.

 

Make grouping always the better exp, better loot, and a better experience and I promise you that stats will show players prefer grouping.

 

 

Actually, MMOs have tried that. It resulted in much less people subscribing and a lower player base. So, the evidence does show that more people enjoy playing Solo in an MMO Environment. Whether this is right or not is irrelevant for a developer that wants to appeal to a broad customer base. What has shown to be of most benefit is that the players get the same rewards regardless of whether they group or not, and "grouping" or rather players working together, becomes something that is natural and effortless for all involved. 

 

SWTOR ignored the last two decades of evolution in the MMO space and things did not turn out too well. 

  Nikopol

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/08
Posts: 627

Brought to you by... The Spirit of Nikopol.

2/12/13 4:06:27 PM#31

Random loot grind is something I actually enjoy.

One thing I do when I'm just too tired and in no mood to get organized for anything is to just go to a zone and start grinding mobs, to try and drop some cool item with an obscenely low drop rate. These random drop item hunts, some of them take weeks and you can do them while chatting away with friends (even written chat), listening to music, etc... Relaxing stuff, I'd even call it some sort of a downtime.

Yeah, it sounds terribly boring on paper, but I've found I miss it when there's no option to do it (as in, no meaningful zone or world drop to chase).

  Brynn

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/17/03
Posts: 337

2/12/13 4:26:41 PM#32
I like what this article said about soloing. That would make it my kind of game, with grouping for dungeons or just socializing. But, another poster said ESO wasn't planned for solo, so I guess it remains to be seen who is right.
  aylwynn

Novice Member

Joined: 2/09/13
Posts: 95

2/12/13 4:28:06 PM#33

This article is pretty interesting ... But to be honest: I don't want a solo friendly MMORPG where you can manage everything alone. I would prefere classic content where you'd have to look for a group with a good well-thought-out groupsetup to manage it. Thats why I play MMORPGs :D

GuildWars 2 is one solo friendly "MMORPG" except the dungeon-content ... Plenty people don't read the chat, just focus on their own survivability and pure damage - I didn't really like the results.

  adam_nox

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/31/06
Posts: 2062

2/12/13 4:29:21 PM#34

here's all the solo content I want in my mmo:

 

 

 

  jtcgs

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/28/04
Posts: 1843

2/12/13 4:34:28 PM#35

This is nuts, "open world" yet "closed faction areas"...

How about we just call things what they are instead of trying to change their meanings in order to try to sucker people (mostly TES fans) into liking it?

It isnt open world, there is no such thing as PARTIAL open world, Part open world or LIKE open world.

Its either OPEN WORLD or it isnt and if it isnt, dont call it open world. See, if Bioware hadnt called SWTOR an MMO, tried to make people PAY as if it was an MMO and just called it what it WAS...it would have done better.

Dont set expectations at a point you have NO CHANCE of meeting just because you want to use words people LIKE over using words that actually discribe the product you are making.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

2/12/13 4:47:48 PM#36
Disagree daoc is an open world with zero instances, but it has the dreaded "faction locked areas".
  Madimorga

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/26/10
Posts: 1997

2/12/13 4:48:02 PM#37

I don't hold out any hope that this game will be solo friendly.  Like all other MMOs, players will be able to solo to some extent, but it will be much grindier, and solo players will be unable to obtain the best gear and/or crafting mats.  

 

I hope I'm wrong, but even Guild Wars 2 went that route, after specifically promising they wouldn't and from what little I've read about ESO, the devs have strongly hinted that their game is about group play.

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  Distopia

Drifter

Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 15527

"what a boring life, HATING everything" -Gorilla Biscuits

2/12/13 4:53:59 PM#38
Originally posted by jtcgs

This is nuts, "open world" yet "closed faction areas"...

How about we just call things what they are instead of trying to change their meanings in order to try to sucker people (mostly TES fans) into liking it?

It isnt open world, there is no such thing as PARTIAL open world, Part open world or LIKE open world.

Its either OPEN WORLD or it isnt and if it isnt, dont call it open world. See, if Bioware hadnt called SWTOR an MMO, tried to make people PAY as if it was an MMO and just called it what it WAS...it would have done better.

Dont set expectations at a point you have NO CHANCE of meeting just because you want to use words people LIKE over using words that actually discribe the product you are making.

By this logic a person could claim SWG wasn't "open world"... as well as TES titles. It all boils down to the size of the world space you're given, as well as whether it's corridor like or wide open.  If I'm playing within the daggerfall cov.. My world space is the lands that that entails, that world space could be open world or a series of small zones. The game is setup as if there are three different segregated world spaces and a shared space to war in. How those individual world spaces are designed dictates whether or not it's an open world game or a zoned one. I have no idea what the size or design of these world spaces will be.

 

 

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Wraithone

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3565

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

2/12/13 4:54:56 PM#39

Player shops?? Thats a waste of game time and resources.  Thats one of the major things I hate about some Asian games.  Having to spend game time searching hundreds and hundreds of shops for what I need is a total waste of my time.  Its usually because the developers are too lazy or inexperienced to create the data base and related systems for a good AH.  I *really* hope TES doesn't go that route.

  Wraithone

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3565

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

2/12/13 4:58:16 PM#40
Originally posted by Brynn
I like what this article said about soloing. That would make it my kind of game, with grouping for dungeons or just socializing. But, another poster said ESO wasn't planned for solo, so I guess it remains to be seen who is right.

From what I've seen and read, its a group focus game, with some limited solo around the edges.  Given the focus on PvP, thats hardly susprising.  Its too bad, as other wise it looks like it would be an entertaining game.

5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Search