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  Wrender

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OP  2/10/13 11:14:35 PM#1

I have heard that Radeon cards will not work on not so genuine operating systems, is this still true or is there a way around it these days?

Thanks for any replies....

  miagisan

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2/10/13 11:15:32 PM#2
Originally posted by Wrender

I have heard that Radeon cards will not work on not so genuine operating systems, is this still true or is there a way around it these days?

Thanks for any replies....

bad, bad boy!!!!!

  Aori

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2/10/13 11:16:52 PM#3
You'll have issues with an illegal copy of windows.
  Wrender

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OP  2/10/13 11:21:16 PM#4
Now did I say anything about anything being illegal? :)~   ???
  Aori

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2/10/13 11:26:27 PM#5
Originally posted by Wrender
Now did I say anything about anything being illegal? :)~   ???

Then i'm not understanding your question. A non genuine computer to me is a windows PC without a unique CoA attached to it. Which would be illegal.

  Quizzical

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2/10/13 11:26:48 PM#6

You could get it to work with a genuine, free copy of Linux.

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English

No DirectX support, though.  I'm sure that's not what you meant, of course.

Alternatively, you could just get a genuine copy of Windows, and then it will work.

  Wrender

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OP  2/10/13 11:27:57 PM#7
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Wrender
Now did I say anything about anything being illegal? :)~   ???

Then i'm not understanding your question. A non genuine computer to me is a windows PC without a unique CoA attached to it. Which would be illegal.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh........

  Quizzical

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2/11/13 12:01:54 AM#8
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Wrender
Now did I say anything about anything being illegal? :)~   ???

Then i'm not understanding your question. A non genuine computer to me is a windows PC without a unique CoA attached to it. Which would be illegal.

Here are some non-genuine computers that are completely legal:

http://www.propsbyidm.com/computers.htm

But Radeon cards won't work with those, either.  :D

  Aori

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2/11/13 12:34:39 AM#9
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Wrender
Now did I say anything about anything being illegal? :)~   ???

Then i'm not understanding your question. A non genuine computer to me is a windows PC without a unique CoA attached to it. Which would be illegal.

Here are some non-genuine computers that are completely legal:

http://www.propsbyidm.com/computers.htm

But Radeon cards won't work with those, either.  :D

Now you're just messing with my head.

  Ridelynn

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2/11/13 6:04:25 PM#10


Originally posted by Wrender
I have heard that Radeon cards will not work on not so genuine operating systems, is this still true or is there a way around it these days?

Thanks for any replies....


I don't think there is any truth to this.

I know for a fact I have installed AMD drivers on systems prior to validation.

Once validation is required, either via use past the validation expiration, or by changing of hardware, Vista ~used~ to go into reduced usability mode and require you to shut down. That was patched out in VistaSP1, and Win7/8 use a different method of "encouraging" legitimate use - disabling of Aero, black background with a "Don't Pirate" type slogan, non-allowing of any Microsoft updates (except critical updates) - but I don't think it locks down driver installation.

  niceguy3978

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2/11/13 6:13:11 PM#11
Originally posted by Wrender

I have heard that Radeon cards will not work on not so genuine operating systems, is this still true or is there a way around it these days?

Thanks for any replies....

When I was in grad school last year, my motherboard died, so I had to scrape together some money to get a new one.  I didn't know at the time that I would also need a new copy of Windows.  I didn't have any extra money (at least not the 99$ for the cheapest oem version of Win 7 at the time) so, I ended up getting a erm.."not so genuine operating version of Win 7."  Had a radeon 5570 that I had scraped together the money for the year before, and it worked fine.  Though, once I got my first real paying job out of grad school, I still felt so guilty that I went out and bought a ligit copy of Windows with my first check.  I have to admit that society has done a good number on my view of piracy of games, it sure made me feel shitty.  Damn conscious.

  Mdpats

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2/11/13 6:17:24 PM#12
Originally posted by Wrender
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Wrender
Now did I say anything about anything being illegal? :)~   ???

Then i'm not understanding your question. A non genuine computer to me is a windows PC without a unique CoA attached to it. Which would be illegal.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh........

Busted.  I'm calling William.

  Aethaeryn

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2/11/13 6:26:13 PM#13
Originally posted by niceguy3978
Originally posted by Wrender

I have heard that Radeon cards will not work on not so genuine operating systems, is this still true or is there a way around it these days?

Thanks for any replies....

When I was in grad school last year, my motherboard died, so I had to scrape together some money to get a new one.  I didn't know at the time that I would also need a new copy of Windows.  I didn't have any extra money (at least not the 99$ for the cheapest oem version of Win 7 at the time) so, I ended up getting a erm.."not so genuine operating version of Win 7."  Had a radeon 5570 that I had scraped together the money for the year before, and it worked fine.  Though, once I got my first real paying job out of grad school, I still felt so guilty that I went out and bought a ligit copy of Windows with my first check.  I have to admit that society has done a good number on my view of piracy of games, it sure made me feel shitty.  Damn conscious.

Why would you have needed a new copy of Windows?  I changed some things and just called them up and presto . . no issues.

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  aRtFuLThinG

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2/11/13 6:27:15 PM#14
Originally posted by Wrender

Radeon cars and not so genuine operating systems

 Radeon cars are definitely not genuine... I don't even know that they make cars lol :P

  adam_nox

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2/11/13 6:39:34 PM#15

If it's winxp it will run whatever you want no matter how illegal it is.

 

Win 7?  my stuff works fine :P

 

But here's what I have to wonder.  Why would radeon choose to make stuff not work on pirated OS's?  What exactly is the point of that?  Sounds like an urban myth more than anything.

  Quizzical

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2/11/13 8:03:48 PM#16
Originally posted by adam_nox

If it's winxp it will run whatever you want no matter how illegal it is.

 

Win 7?  my stuff works fine :P

 

But here's what I have to wonder.  Why would radeon choose to make stuff not work on pirated OS's?  What exactly is the point of that?  Sounds like an urban myth more than anything.

AMD wouldn't, but Microsoft could disable some stuff if they thought it was pirated.  Though if they were messing with drivers that way, I doubt they'd treat AMD graphics any different from Nvidia.

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2/11/13 8:05:30 PM#17
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG
Originally posted by Wrender

Radeon cars and not so genuine operating systems

 Radeon cars are definitely not genuine... I don't even know that they make cars lol :P

If a car company wanted to pay AMD to let them license the Radeon brand name and logo, AMD would probably be willing to take the money.  That's how it played out with memory:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820103035

That's actually Patriot memory, by the way.

  WaldoCorn

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2/12/13 10:06:55 AM#18
Pirate Cars FTW ARGGGggggg... oh

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  tom_gore

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2/12/13 10:48:51 AM#19
Now here's a thing I don't understand. A PC gamer is quite happy to chuck out 1000 USD for his new computer, paying 200+ USD a year on games, but cringes at the idea of having to spend 100 bucks for an operating system that will last him two or more CPUs.
  Ridelynn

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2/12/13 10:57:31 AM#20


Originally posted by tom_gore
Now here's a thing I don't understand. A PC gamer is quite happy to chuck out 1000 USD for his new computer, paying 200+ USD a year on games, but cringes at the idea of having to spend 100 bucks for an operating system that will last him two or more CPUs.

Same rationale for Napster: Why are people so willing to pirate music when it only costs $0.99?

Free trumps any price point. It's not that they don't want to pay for it, it's that there is the option of getting it for free (even if it's somewhat illegal).

The instant Apple or Google start charging for tablet/phone OS upgrades, you will see the exact same thing happen (and who knows, that could come any day now).