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General Discussion  » What backer rewards would really make you consider backing Camelot Unchained's Kickstarter?

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  Darrgen

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2/11/13 9:40:08 AM#21
I wouldn't mind seeing something for the people that put a decent amount like an in game NPC. For instance Darrgen the Berserker boss in Darkness Falls dungeon!
  hadati

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OP  2/11/13 9:41:38 AM#22
There could be a beta only, beta plus regular digital download, beta plus digital collectors edition, beta plus physical box, and beta plus physical collectors edition kickstarter options.

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  Aeonblades

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2/11/13 10:52:08 AM#23

I only want 2 things:

1.Beta Access and the game when it comes out.

2. An item I can name.

actually I'll probably end up funding this one regardless, but it will be the first kickstarter I take seriously. Most of the rest have been a joke.

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  hadati

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OP  2/11/13 2:57:22 PM#24

I looked at the Wildman kickstarter (which sadly does not look like it's going to fund because they need an additional 600,000 in the next 4 days) and was surprised to see quite a few people had backed it for their highest amount ($10,000) to be invited to the launch party, be in a special video blog, and have their names in the game's credits.  

According to my rough estimates, even at $60, raising 2 million dollars would require over 30,000 backers!

So, it definitely makes sense to offer some really high dollar amount backing options.  Because one person backing for $10,000 is the equivalent of 167 people backing at $60.

So, what are some other 500-10000 dollar backer ideas for Camelot Unchained?  Ostensibly these don't have to be something you personally would pay but are ideas for City State to consider as they prepare for their upcoming March kickstarter?

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  meddyck

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2/11/13 3:08:56 PM#25

$5 and up: automatic full closed beta access

$50 and up: free collector's edition game and bonus items that come with it

$150 and up: lifetime subscription

* Edited to be cheaper than what you would typically pay to get the same rewards anyway.

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  hadati

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OP  2/11/13 11:48:44 PM#26

I think just beta access should be more like 20-25.  

Beta + regular digital edition of the game when it comes out should be 50.

Beta + boxed regular edition should be 60.

Alpha + beta + digital collector's edition (including cloth map) should be 80.

Alpha + beta + boxed collector's edition should 120.

Alpha + beta + boxed collector's edition + first year pre-paid premium level subscription should be 200.

Alpha + beta + boxed collector's edition + first three years pre-paid premium level subscription should be 350.

Alpha + beta + boxed collector's edition + LIFETIME premium subscription membership should be 500.

Here's my math for your consideration...

A $15 per month premium subscription for one year comes out to $180.  If you pay 100 for the game, that comes out to $280 plus tax (at least in my state), so really $300.  So, at $200 it would be a $100 savings for a one year membership plus you'd get into the alpha and beta.

For the three year option you'd normally spend $15 X 36 months = $590 + 100 for the collector's edition.  So 690 + tax = $759.  So, at $350 you'd save just over 50% of what you'd otherwise spend.  Deep discount for helping to back the game at such an early stage in development.

If you plan to play CU for 10+ years (like some people are still playing DAoC), then think of how much you'd save in the long-run with a LIFETIME option.  $15 X 120 months = $1800.  Plus 100 for the collector's edition = 1900.  Plus tax and you're at $2090.  So, you'd save $1590 if you went with the $500 option.

What scares me though is that the Wildman kickstarter just got yanked today and they were asking 1.1 million and only got 504K with around 9,235 backers.  That's an average of 54 dollars per backer.  CU is asking in the neighborhood of 2 million.  To make that happen with an average person backing at 54 dollars would require around 37,000 backers.  Yikes!

Let's keep going with backer ideas!  There's less than 20 days until March. :)

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  Burntvet

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2/11/13 11:54:17 PM#27
Backing a KS MMO is generally dumb, as the resources needed to make a decent MMO are HUGE (We have see crap that comes out, otherwise). Backing a KS MMO for the promises of swag is very dumb. Let the stupid, pay the penalty.
  knallpulver

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2/12/13 4:22:48 AM#28

I don't need any rewards to give money through Kickstarter......

I am however living on a tight budget (student), so if I'm going to give any higher amounts, then I have to get the game and beta access or something.....

I don't understand people that won't give money no matter what.... I mean you can give 5$.... that's nothing, and the game might not succeed, but it's not like you're broke after that... (I hope not) and it would show sponsors that people want this kind of games, witch could lead to a bigger budget project with new innovative features....

  skyexile

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2/12/13 4:28:52 AM#29

thanks for the breakdown there Hadati, and yea those numbers are inline with star citizens $63 avg per person. I guess i better pledge atleast $100 to makeup for some slackers....who am i kidding...i payed like $300.00 for a WAR beta account...

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  meddyck

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2/12/13 6:42:45 AM#30
Originally posted by hadati

What scares me though is that the Wildman kickstarter just got yanked today and they were asking 1.1 million and only got 504K with around 9,235 backers.  That's an average of 54 dollars per backer.  CU is asking in the neighborhood of 2 million.  To make that happen with an average person backing at 54 dollars would require around 37,000 backers.  Yikes!

Let's keep going with backer ideas!  There's less than 20 days until March. :)

Yeah I have to admit I think this kickstarter will go down in flames especially since the project exists completely on paper at this point (if that). I guess the big question is whether Mark is committed to putting up his own cash to make this a reality or whether this will all be a one month fantasy that will be quickly forgotten and we'll all go back to following TESO's development progress.

On the more optimistic side, I had never even heard of Wildman until its kickstarter was yanked. CU should have no such problem with its kickstarter being visible to former and current DAOC players.

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  meddyck

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2/12/13 6:46:24 AM#31
Originally posted by Burntvet
Backing a KS MMO is generally dumb, as the resources needed to make a decent MMO are HUGE (We have see crap that comes out, otherwise). Backing a KS MMO for the promises of swag is very dumb. Let the stupid, pay the penalty.

One thing in CU's favor as a kickstarter game is that it won't be a full, modern MMO. It doesn't need a $200 million budget to pay for voice actors or anything.

Anyway most of us here aren't thinking of giving thousands of dollars to CU's kickstarters. Considering what most of us have spent on retail boxes and monthly subscriptions for various MMOs, giving a few dozen or even a few hundred dollars to a kickstarter for a game we think we might love and play for years is not a big deal.

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  Wicoa

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2/12/13 6:48:05 AM#32

Id like for a small package.

Some game time

Founders recognition in game maybe a title that can never be earnt again.

Full beta access.

  skyexile

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2/12/13 6:54:49 AM#33


Originally posted by meddyck

Originally posted by Burntvet Backing a KS MMO is generally dumb, as the resources needed to make a decent MMO are HUGE (We have see crap that comes out, otherwise). Backing a KS MMO for the promises of swag is very dumb. Let the stupid, pay the penalty.
One thing in CU's favor as a kickstarter game is that it won't be a full, modern MMO. It doesn't need a $200 million budget to pay for voice actors or anything.

Anyway most of us here aren't thinking of giving thousands of dollars to CU's kickstarters. Considering what most of us have spent on retail boxes and monthly subscriptions for various MMOs, giving a few dozen or even a few hundred dollars to a kickstarter for a game we think we might love and play for years is not a big deal.


But think of what that money could do to expand your investment portfolio.

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  Slapshot1188

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2/12/13 7:00:31 AM#34

$1k-$5k = Name one or more Points of Contention.  Not sure what they will be but for instance in DAoC land, $1k might equal a tower while $5k might equal a Keep.  Naming would obviously have to be compatible with the faction it would exist in and meet all other naming guidelines.

 

 

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  Kruul

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2/12/13 7:09:58 AM#35
I'm backing it no matter what but I would appreciate beta access if I drop a couple hundred on the kickstarter. I would love to help test the lovechild of the best MMORPG ever made.
  PeculiarJohn

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2/12/13 7:44:37 AM#36
If you drop $2,000,000 for the project, Mark Jacobs comes to your house and washes your car for you.
  hadati

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OP  2/12/13 9:16:17 AM#37
Well Wildman was fraught with problems. Most notably 90% of Gas Powered Games was layed off right ad the Kickstarter started, calling into question whether the game would ever be created. I think that spooked a lot of wouldbe investors. It gave them Project Copernicus flashbacks.

What CU needs to do is not only have great kickstarter backer rewards but start generating massive buzz so that every current and former DAoC player hears about it, plus explain the magic of RvR and the coolness of a more hardcore MMO ruleset to folks who never played DAoC so they realize how this fills a lot of the void in the current far too easy, hello kitty peanut butter hula square adventure island MMO market.

Without that buzz, 2 million is probably unattainable. People need to know about this game in the midst of all the other MMOs planned for release this year and care about its success.

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  Enwood

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2/12/13 10:07:16 AM#38
And if the made a FFA server like the dreds were in daoc, as a friend and I were discussing,  we would drop enough to get a merchant named after us or something similar
  aylwynn

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2/12/13 10:40:17 AM#39
I'd be cool with early beta/alpha access ... No need for reservation stuff and titles :D
  Aeonblades

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2/12/13 11:02:32 AM#40
Originally posted by skyexile

 


Originally posted by meddyck

Originally posted by Burntvet Backing a KS MMO is generally dumb, as the resources needed to make a decent MMO are HUGE (We have see crap that comes out, otherwise). Backing a KS MMO for the promises of swag is very dumb. Let the stupid, pay the penalty.
One thing in CU's favor as a kickstarter game is that it won't be a full, modern MMO. It doesn't need a $200 million budget to pay for voice actors or anything.

 

Anyway most of us here aren't thinking of giving thousands of dollars to CU's kickstarters. Considering what most of us have spent on retail boxes and monthly subscriptions for various MMOs, giving a few dozen or even a few hundred dollars to a kickstarter for a game we think we might love and play for years is not a big deal.

 


 

But think of what that money could do to expand your investment portfolio.

Because investments are so reliable these days?

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