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  TwoThreeFour

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2/10/13 6:46:24 AM#181
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour

So we disagree about what the metaphor "Kill WoW" stands for. 

Kill WoW would stand for making a game to which most of WoW players would go to leving WoW dead. Hence "kill".

Beat WoW would just mean you beat him in whatever benchmark you decided, for example "sell more copies than WoW" which he actually mentioned as exmaple for GW1.

A metaphor combined with a hyperbole would allow "Kill WoW" to mean that WoW either gets dethroned or loses a significant amount of players. I suppose one would have to ask the persons who used the phrase "Kill WoW" and ask them what they actually meant. 

 

It fits nicely with the idea that noone remember the runner-ups in the Olympics, only the winners.

  User Deleted
2/10/13 6:58:52 AM#182
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour

A metaphor combined with a hyperbole would allow "Kill WoW" to mean that WoW either gets dethroned or loses a significant amount of players. I suppose one would have to ask the persons who used the phrase "Kill WoW" and ask them what they actually meant. 

 

It fits nicely with the idea that noone remember the runner-ups in the Olympics, only the winners.

Except i havent seen them say they want to "kill WoW" anywhere and thats completely fabricated by certain part of the community to bring some not very bright point across.

You can say that SWTOR killed SWG, but again, not because its better/more successful game but because of coorporate decisions, so its yet another type of "kill".

  TwoThreeFour

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2/10/13 7:08:22 AM#183
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour

A metaphor combined with a hyperbole would allow "Kill WoW" to mean that WoW either gets dethroned or loses a significant amount of players. I suppose one would have to ask the persons who used the phrase "Kill WoW" and ask them what they actually meant. 

 

It fits nicely with the idea that noone remember the runner-ups in the Olympics, only the winners.

Except i havent seen them say they want to "kill WoW" anywhere and thats completely fabricated by certain part of the community to bring some not very bright point across.

You can say that SWTOR killed SWG, but again, not because its better/more successful game but because of coorporate decisions, so its yet another type of "kill".

If the person stating that Arenanet was aiming to kill WoW used "kill WoW" as a hyperbole and metaphor for dethroning WoW, then yes the article linked earier shows that  a dev have done a "dethroning" statement. 

  Leethe

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2/10/13 7:09:00 AM#184
Arenanet never said they would kill woW. They said they wanted to please their fans. Anyone still carrying on about a wowkiller is and IDIOT. Or just trying to cause trouble. I wasn't hyped at 1st and I'm still playing along with Defiance, Firefall, Borderlands and Champions Online. People on the forum need to get out of the playground and realize that measuring contests went out of style years ago.

There is NO miracle patch.

95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

Hope is not a stategy.
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  Quesa

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2/10/13 7:26:04 AM#185
I found GW2 ended up distilling down to the same MMO Themepark formula.  It was fun for a time but got old quick.
  rawfox

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2/10/13 7:27:21 AM#186
Originally posted by fs23otm

GW2 is still the best MMO on the market... and will remain that way until possibly ESO. 

 

Not everyone is sharing that opinion.

And thats ok, we dont like all the same stuff.

I for my, are pretty tiered about horse raiding sword swinging second hand phantasies with all these puffy blurry stuff inside.

Its a matter of taste ^^

  MightyChasm

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2/10/13 7:38:54 AM#187
Originally posted by Leethe
Arenanet never said they would kill woW. They said they wanted to please their fans. Anyone still carrying on about a wowkiller is and IDIOT. Or just trying to cause trouble. I wasn't hyped at 1st and I'm still playing along with Defiance, Firefall, Borderlands and Champions Online. People on the forum need to get out of the playground and realize that measuring contests went out of style years ago.

No they didn't.  There is a chart for just about every entertainment form out there, and there are literally hundreds of programmes/ channels showing those charts watched by millions of viewers.  I haven't seen many tv's in playgrounds.  

  Leethe

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2/10/13 7:43:35 AM#188
Originally posted by MightyChasm
Originally posted by Leethe
Arenanet never said they would kill woW. They said they wanted to please their fans. Anyone still carrying on about a wowkiller is and IDIOT. Or just trying to cause trouble. I wasn't hyped at 1st and I'm still playing along with Defiance, Firefall, Borderlands and Champions Online. People on the forum need to get out of the playground and realize that measuring contests went out of style years ago.

No they didn't.  There is a chart for just about every entertainment form out there, and there are literally hundreds of programmes/ channels showing those charts watched by millions of viewers.  I haven't seen many tv's in playgrounds.  

You have proved my point better than I ever could have.

There is NO miracle patch.

95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

Hope is not a stategy.
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  MightyChasm

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2/10/13 7:46:42 AM#189
Originally posted by Leethe
Originally posted by MightyChasm
Originally posted by Leethe
Arenanet never said they would kill woW. They said they wanted to please their fans. Anyone still carrying on about a wowkiller is and IDIOT. Or just trying to cause trouble. I wasn't hyped at 1st and I'm still playing along with Defiance, Firefall, Borderlands and Champions Online. People on the forum need to get out of the playground and realize that measuring contests went out of style years ago.

No they didn't.  There is a chart for just about every entertainment form out there, and there are literally hundreds of programmes/ channels showing those charts watched by millions of viewers.  I haven't seen many tv's in playgrounds.  

You have proved my point better than I ever could have.

You don't have a response so you just make some vague, meaningless comment that is somehow supposed to elevate your argument above mine?  These forums are moronic sometimes.  

  gope

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2/10/13 7:52:20 AM#190
o believe me wow is nothing now because of Guild Wars 2.
  User Deleted
2/10/13 10:07:52 AM#191
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour

If the person stating that Arenanet was aiming to kill WoW used "kill WoW" as a hyperbole and metaphor for dethroning WoW, then yes the article linked earier shows that  a dev have done a "dethroning" statement. 

Ah, but people using the "kill WoW" phrase dont use it as anything else but its raw meaning, therefore if GW2 sells 3m and WoW sells 2,7m thats a failure because WoW didnt sell 0, and not everyone stopped playing WoW, therefore GW2 didnt kill WoW and then continue to put words in other peoples mouth about killing WoW.

Thats what i ment about "not too bright point" if you didnt catch the hint and thats exactly what they are doing. Somehow GW2 selling 3m copies is "bad" but at the same time WoW sold less (numbers we actually have now until we get new numbers).

  darkhalf357x

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I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

2/10/13 10:13:37 AM#192
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Another useless thread... "I came on the GW2 forum to tell everybody that I think WoW is better than GW2".

Keep up the good job, you're getting the attention you are craving for.

+fucking 1

@Jean-Luc - LOVE the avatar.  Right on spot ;-)

  Shadanwolf

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2/10/13 12:00:45 PM#193

I bought GW2 because I thought it would have world class group vs group conflict. I was willing to settle for server vs server .What I found is the developers idea of WvW was a 2 week 24/7 pvp match with endless repetative zergs and points used to determine the "winner" of two weeks of mind numbing repetition( then doing it all over like it never happened).

Was the game over hyped? It's in the eye of the beholder.

 

The game today...good pve....simply awful WvW in my opinion.

  Tierless

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Posts: 2114

joie de vivre

2/10/13 7:55:03 PM#194

I still enjoy it and log in once a week or 2. Might hold me until a sandbox gets made.

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  Volkon

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Facts do not require fiction for balance.

2/11/13 12:12:09 AM#195
Originally posted by rawfox
Originally posted by fs23otm

GW2 is still the best MMO on the market... and will remain that way until possibly ESO. 

 

Not everyone is sharing that opinion.

And thats ok, we dont like all the same stuff.

I for my, are pretty tiered about horse raiding sword swinging second hand phantasies with all these puffy blurry stuff inside.

Its a matter of taste ^^

That's true... I don't think ESO will be better either.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Comcast8888

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2/11/13 12:20:29 AM#196
GW2 is a good game with no competition but we all know its going to die when Elder Scrolls and Archeage come out later this year. 
  Torgrim

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2/11/13 3:38:46 AM#197
Originally posted by Comcast8888
GW2 is a good game with no competition but we all know its going to die when Elder Scrolls and Archeage come out later this year. 

 

We do?

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  User Deleted
2/11/13 3:51:24 AM#198
Originally posted by Comcast8888
GW2 is a good game with no competition but we all know its going to die when Elder Scrolls and Archeage come out later this year. 

I feel disturbance in the force and hear thousand voices crying when ESO launches.

Archeage is not really competition to GW2.

  Ramanadjinn

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2/11/13 3:54:42 AM#199
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Comcast8888
GW2 is a good game with no competition but we all know its going to die when Elder Scrolls and Archeage come out later this year. 

I feel disturbance in the force and hear thousand voices crying when ESO launches.

Archeage is not really competition to GW2.

 

Are we arguing about whether Archeage is a GW2 killer or not?

This could be interpreted as proof against the OP.

  User Deleted
2/11/13 4:33:46 AM#200
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

Are we arguing about whether Archeage is a GW2 killer or not?

This could be interpreted as proof against the OP.

Its pretty much different type of a game.

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