Is there anthing like it out there ? Searching for a true massive online game that is not arcade style and with a more mature playerbase. Not wow or COD style.

Or just give me some idea where former wii online players go.

See here:

http://www.heroesandgenerals.com/4/en/index.html

Every time I look for servers on Liberation Front, they are kind of empty.

I would love to try it, does anyone have a link?

Heroes and Generals is very arcadish and is still in beta isn't it?

Originally posted by anfiach`
31st Wrecking Crew went to Arma 2

I know some other squads that had members transition to Arma2 as well.  I played the first Arma and did not like it.  It felt choppy and difficult to use in terms of the controls.  

I've heard that Arma2 is a lot smoother but still has a decent learning curve to it.  I know a bunch of guys in my current squad that were playing a ton of DayZ.  

Originally posted by Skers11

Originally posted by anfiach`
31st Wrecking Crew went to Arma 2

I know some other squads that had members transition to Arma2 as well.  I played the first Arma and did not like it.  It felt choppy and difficult to use in terms of the controls.  

I've heard that Arma2 is a lot smoother but still has a decent learning curve to it.  I know a bunch of guys in my current squad that were playing a ton of DayZ.  

Yeah I heard Day z was pretty good have not tried it myself. Maybe if i get some time away from school and work it might be a option. Sad to here H&G is not living up to the hype I had hopes for that game to take off but it still is in beta so who knows things might change.

Originally posted by Zbus

Originally posted by Skers11

Originally posted by anfiach`
31st Wrecking Crew went to Arma 2

I know some other squads that had members transition to Arma2 as well.  I played the first Arma and did not like it.  It felt choppy and difficult to use in terms of the controls.  

I've heard that Arma2 is a lot smoother but still has a decent learning curve to it.  I know a bunch of guys in my current squad that were playing a ton of DayZ.  

Yeah I heard sayz was pretty good have not tried it myself. Maybe if i get some time away from school and work it might be a option. Sad to here H&G is not living up to the hype I had hopes for that game to take off but it still is in beta so who knows things might change.

I checked out Heroes and Generals again today, I think I judged it too switfly and harshly. I say it's free to play so may as well check it out. My expectations were a bit too high going into it.

War Thunder is pretty fun at the moment. It's accurate enough(more than WW2online in some areas), along with great graphics, sounds and cockpits. It's technically pay-to-win, but at the moment it seems more like pay-to-lose. There are a lot awful pilots who bought the expensive and advanced aircraft, yet those things still get destroyed by the lower ranking, lighter aircraft in many situations. Sometimes you get nuked by a lucky cannon round but I'm dominating in some battles with the biplanes. You have to play the historical battles though; the normal mode is 3rd person and very arcade.

The War Thunder devs say that they want "massive" historical battles and say that these cannot be fought by just pilots, so they're hinting at combined arms. They already have a plethora of good models that include tanks like the T34, not to mention a decent game engine so I am optimistic.

Originally posted by david06

War Thunder is pretty fun at the moment. It's accurate enough(more than WW2online in some areas), along with great graphics, sounds and cockpits. It's technically pay-to-win, but at the moment it seems more like pay-to-lose. There are a lot awful pilots who bought the expensive and advanced aircraft, yet those things still get destroyed by the lower ranking, lighter aircraft in many situations. Sometimes you get nuked by a lucky cannon round but I'm dominating in some battles with the biplanes. You have to play the historical battles though; the normal mode is 3rd person and very arcade.

The War Thunder devs say that they want "massive" historical battles and say that these cannot be fought by just pilots, so they're hinting at combined arms. They already have a plethora of good models that include tanks like the T34, not to mention a decent game engine so I am optimistic.

 War Thunder is a great game at the moment in its phase of Beta.  I HIGHLY recommend it to any flight sim buffs out there.  When they do add ground battles....wwiionline will not compare in the least.

Open Beta too ----->  http://warthunder.com/en/

I might have to give WarThunder another go if historical battles is where it's at (never tried it due to country limitations). I've only played the free-for-all and that was quite lackluster. Like David said it's just way too arcade - targeting system with arrows, dots that tell you where to aim, virtual cockpit where you can see everything, etc.

Though I do hope they completely redo the camera system.  I'm so used to camera systems like WWIIOL where you can quickly snap your head in that direction. 

War Thunder has amazing potential, so pumped for this game

hd trailer

good to see a 100k km open world game, 200 plane models and over 100 vehicles, minds blown..

Originally posted by Abyssuss

War Thunder has amazing potential, so pumped for this game

hd trailer

good to see a 100k km open world game, 200 plane models and over 100 vehicles, minds blown..

Quick question on this game I watched the clip but are the planes on rails or are they useing 3rd person to shoot the video. Not that it matters that much im a aweful pilot lol.