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OP  2/08/13 11:26:49 PM#1

No Way!! you say This is a joke right?? Unheard of your making this up OP Nope i am not. "Outspark, the San Francisco-based publisher that was one of the earliest western companies to specialize in free-to-play MMOs, has apparently shut its doors.
Founded in 2006 published the popular Fiesta Online and Secret of the Solstice MMOs, both of them free-to-play games.

European MMO publisher Gamingo has taken over operations of Fiesta Online, though it has no plans to continue any of Outspark's other titles."

Question If you are a DEV and you decide to go to F2P as your payment requirment for play and your game still failied. Does that mean maybe you should of produced a better game?? Maybe so.

I dont know if this will be just a bum rap for Outspark or perhaps it could be a domino effect on F2P MMO's? Guess time will tell.

I took the liberty to look up Gamingo and thier biggest MMO if you call it that is Golfstar. Yes Gamingo is a F2P publisher. Handwrtting on the wall?

 

  muffins89

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2/08/13 11:30:28 PM#2
why do you seem so surprised?  businesses fail all the time.

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  Wraithone

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2/08/13 11:43:08 PM#3
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
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F2P costs only as much as you *choose* to spend.  Unless Dear Leader issues some dictate or other,  you only play games that you make the choice to play.  F2P is simply another business model. If you don't like it, don't play games that use it.

  ZombieKen

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2/08/13 11:46:06 PM#4

Interesting.  I'm not finding anything on bankruptcy of the corporation.  I'm wondering if it might have been a strategic selloff of assets, and shuttering operations on unprofitable games.

 

The current CEO only took over 18 months ago.  reference

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  muffins89

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2/08/13 11:49:34 PM#5
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
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F2P costs only as much as you *choose* to spend.  Unless Dear Leader issues some dictate or other,  you only play games that you make the choice to play.  F2P is simply another business model. If you don't like it, don't play games that use it.

this.

 

also it seems free to play is turning a corner.  pay to win is such a 4-letter word nowadays that more developers are realizing they don't need to nickel and dime customers to turn a profit.    selling virtual hats seems to very lucrative http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/01/top-tf2-item-makers-making-500k-a-year-we-cannot-compete-with-our-customers/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0.

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  cronius77

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2/08/13 11:56:04 PM#6
i hate to sound like the dick here but i REALLY hope Gpotato , Aeria, Webzen, and the rest of the free to play garbage shuts down. Perfect World is ifffy to be on that list as well. Im just so sick of seeing companies create these pay to win asian grinder games that do absolutely nothing but clog up the market and give good companies a very bad rap when a quality free to play actually releases. These companies will take on any game out of asia and try whatever they can to nickle and dime the customer. I know some free to play titles are very good games , but majority of them coming out of asia are utter crap and not even of indie quality.
  jusomdude

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2/08/13 11:56:14 PM#7

Well there's only so many players to support f2p games, and only a real small percentage actually buy anything... The market is saturated as all hell...Someone's gotta go down.

 

  Loktofeit

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2/08/13 11:58:38 PM#8
Originally posted by Isturi

No Way!! you say This is a joke right?? Unheard of your making this up OP Nope i am not. "Outspark, the San Francisco-based publisher that was one of the earliest western companies to specialize in free-to-play MMOs, has apparently shut its doors.
Founded in 2006 published the popular Fiesta Online and Secret of the Solstice MMOs, both of them free-to-play games.

European MMO publisher Gamingo has taken over operations of Fiesta Online, though it has no plans to continue any of Outspark's other titles."

Question If you are a DEV and you decide to go to F2P as your payment requirment for play and your game still failied. Does that mean maybe you should of produced a better game?? Maybe so.

I dont know if this will be just a bum rap for Outspark or perhaps it could be a domino effect on F2P MMO's? Guess time will tell.

I took the liberty to look up Gamingo and thier biggest MMO if you call it that is Golfstar. Yes Gamingo is a F2P publisher. Handwrtting on the wall?

 

Holy cow! One of the 350 free to play MMOs is closing? Oh wait... the games are still running. Just Outspark closing.

The Sparkplayer engine and Earth Eternal died years ago. Outspark hasn't created anything new since.

 

Dude, do some research before you start this threads. Not for us, but for your own sake.

 

 

 

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  Loktofeit

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2/08/13 11:59:39 PM#9
Originally posted by jusomdude

Well there's only so many players to support f2p games, and only a real small percentage actually buy anything... The market is saturated as all hell...Someone's gotta go down.

You know that the games didn't close down, right?

 

 

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OP  2/09/13 12:03:29 AM#10
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Isturi

No Way!! you say This is a joke right?? Unheard of your making this up OP Nope i am not. "Outspark, the San Francisco-based publisher that was one of the earliest western companies to specialize in free-to-play MMOs, has apparently shut its doors.
Founded in 2006 published the popular Fiesta Online and Secret of the Solstice MMOs, both of them free-to-play games.

European MMO publisher Gamingo has taken over operations of Fiesta Online, though it has no plans to continue any of Outspark's other titles."

Question If you are a DEV and you decide to go to F2P as your payment requirment for play and your game still failied. Does that mean maybe you should of produced a better game?? Maybe so.

I dont know if this will be just a bum rap for Outspark or perhaps it could be a domino effect on F2P MMO's? Guess time will tell.

I took the liberty to look up Gamingo and thier biggest MMO if you call it that is Golfstar. Yes Gamingo is a F2P publisher. Handwrtting on the wall?

 

Holy cow! One of the 350 free to play MMOs is closing? Oh wait... the games are still running. Just Outspark closing.

The Sparkplayer engine and Earth Eternal died years ago. Outspark hasn't created anything new since.

 

Dude, do some research before you start this threads. Not for us, but for your own sake.

 

 

 

Good advise for posting is doing research. I did and the link is all that is said on the closing of Outspark. So not much to go on for research by all means if you find more feel free to post.

  thinktank001

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2/09/13 12:09:06 AM#11
Originally posted by cronius77
i hate to sound like the dick here but i REALLY hope Gpotato , Aeria, Webzen, and the rest of the free to play garbage shuts down. Perfect World is ifffy to be on that list as well. Im just so sick of seeing companies create these pay to win asian grinder games that do absolutely nothing but clog up the market and give good companies a very bad rap when a quality free to play actually releases. These companies will take on any game out of asia and try whatever they can to nickle and dime the customer. I know some free to play titles are very good games , but majority of them coming out of asia are utter crap and not even of indie quality.

 

Funny you should mention those.  Gpotato just sold their US and EU assets to Webzen.    

  cronius77

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2/09/13 12:14:23 AM#12
yeah Im not trying to sound like the jerk about it all here but those companies all remind me of used cars salesmen seriously. I remember allods with Gpotato was nothing but pay to win and still is with runes. You had to buy death charms for cash so when you died you didnt lose an item being cursed.... that kind of crap is just as shady as shady can be and i do not feel one bit sad when those companies go under and people lose their jobs for supporting that sort of shady policies.
  Loktofeit

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2/09/13 12:15:16 AM#13
Originally posted by Isturi

Good advise for posting is doing research. I did and the link is all that is said on the closing of Outspark. So not much to go on for research by all means if you find more feel free to post.

These games change hands a lot more often than you think. Aeria picked up IJJI's titles not that long ago. K2 Networks (Gamers1st) built an empire on buying up games in their entirety or just to localize for a region.

 

"Question If you are a DEV and you decide to go to F2P as your payment requirment for play and your game still failied. Does that mean maybe you should of produced a better game?? Maybe so.

I dont know if this will be just a bum rap for Outspark or perhaps it could be a domino effect on F2P MMO's? Guess time will tell."

 

None of their current  games failed. There is no domino effect.  Surprisingly, the sky isn't falling. 

 

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

  Loktofeit

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2/09/13 12:17:09 AM#14
Originally posted by thinktank001

Funny you should mention those.  Gpotato just sold their US and EU assets to Webzen.    

Not just gPotato but the whole Gala-Net shebang.

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

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OP  2/09/13 12:34:06 AM#15
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Isturi

Good advise for posting is doing research. I did and the link is all that is said on the closing of Outspark. So not much to go on for research by all means if you find more feel free to post.

These games change hands a lot more often than you think. Aeria picked up IJJI's titles not that long ago. K2 Networks (Gamers1st) built an empire on buying up games in their entirety or just to localize for a region.

 No Domino effect?? OK if that is not then I dont know what is??

I shutter to think just how often they do change hands, Kind of reminds me of a defaulted student loan or a bad debt go figure.

  azzamasin

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2/09/13 12:39:53 AM#16
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
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Nope F2P indies can go do that, Triple-A F2P's are here to stay.

 

Seriously did anyone even play those games?  I never heard of them so good riddance to rubbish I say, go big or go home.

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  boxsnd

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2/09/13 12:40:32 AM#17

Never heard of those MMOs. Maybe that's why they failed? 

 

Face it, P2P fans, P2P is dying a quick death. F2P and B2P is the present and future.

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OP  2/09/13 12:51:09 AM#18
Originally posted by boxsnd

Never heard of those MMOs. Maybe that's why they failed? 

 

Face it, P2P fans, P2P is dying a quick death. F2P and B2P is the present and future.

I dont think P2P will go anywere soon until WoW completly dies. With that being said. I would have to also say yes you are right about B2P games sticking around. But it seems hard to say with F2P to many directions atm guess time will tell.

  Rossboss

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2/09/13 1:10:32 AM#19
F2P games will exist from now on, despite your views of them. You can't say they all suck and are dying because you don't like the idea of paying for things in specific as opposed to paying a monthly fee. That would be like aliens coming to Earth, finding a newspaper from the 1940's and assuming all human beings were destined to be like Adolf Hitler.

I played WoW up until WotLK, played RoM for 2 years and now Rift.
I am F2P player. I support games when I feel they deserve my money and I want the items enough.
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  VengeSunsoar

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2/09/13 2:13:42 AM#20

One more time for all the f2p haters.

f2p with a cs has been here longer than p2p.  It has allready shown it's longevity.  It is not going anywhere.

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

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