Hey everyone - 

I really enjoyed reading all the comment, and am pleased this got a good discussion going.  One of the most satisfying aspects of making videos like these, is analyzing a topic and thinking you have it well covered and logical, then to see so many different opinions, it is really amazing.  I love that.  

I think the MMO of old is dead.  I don't expcet to ever see another UO/EQ, and that is fine and good, probably if I was presented a new EQ today, I would not play it, I dare say most would not.  

I tihnk some MMO games with a small playerbase, like EVE are really good games, but too niche to support a genre, that is why I called them out as not being repersentative of a htriving genre.  

I think these are all important debates to have, sorry some of you did not find value in the video, I would love to hear what you would enjoy watching - game/topic/style etc.  

More to come from RTG.

Cheers 0/

Originally posted by Theocritus

Originally posted by delete5230

Well the guy in the video almost gets the real problem.

He does talk about one of the largest problems, and thats about community. Developers are responsble for community tools to bring people togeather.  However he turns around and changes the solution to be adding content. he thinks adding content will keep players. This helps, but the andswer is community.

 

Community = keeping players playing......Then add content !

 

Auto grouping does not make a community

Dungeon finders does not make community

Easy game play does not make community

Mega servers with zoning does not make up community

 I honestly don't ever remember leaving a MMO because I ran out of content....Now community issues I have left many times but never content.

 I've never actually left any game due to community or lack of content.  The only reason I've left a game is because I'm bored with the content being offered.

Originally posted by Magiknight
If everyone stopped calling these games MMOs I would be happy. They are nothing like the games that people played for years consistently, ie Everquest. The idea that content has to be developed consistently means that these new games are nothing like the original MMOs. You didn't really run out of things to do in the older MMOs. Expansion packs were added every so often and generally they provided more content for AT LEAST six more months. You were not in a hurry in those games. Why are people paying for the actual game and a monthly fee, or paying for items in the game, when the game doesn't enetertain them for how long a single player game would?

 Well, language is funny.  I wished people would stop calling mmorpgs mmos as that makes things less clear and leads to exactly what  you are complaining about.  SO call mmorpgs mmorpgs and not mmos.

Originally posted by XAPGames

My perspective: evolving yes, dieing yes.  Death of the old makes way for the new.

 

I don't like it, but that in itself changes nothing.

 

More like evolving and changing.

I didn't watch the video, but I suspect it's the same old "Mobile gaming gonna kill the MMOs!" - I find it far more likely that clever developers will start to integrate their MMO's into mobile platforms, through linked mini-games, apps like WoW's armory, etc...

edit:whatever

Sorry Sibcoe, but you came to the wrong forum to have a real discussion. They don't happen here with potentially hyperbolic titles. That's all they need to see in order to reject and end the discussion.

The video didn't conclude that mmorpgs are dead. Basically what it was was 10 minutes of preface to tell us how awesome that bucket of failsauce Marvel Heroes is going to be.