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  nariusseldon

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OP  2/08/13 11:24:42 AM#1

There were threads discussing what single player games should be made into MMOs. I figure i will try something new and have the question reversed.

Here is my list:

TOR - this is begging to be a single player game. I think it is a mistake not to just do an online KOTOR with better combat.

STO - some of the story missions can probably done very well as a SP game. Ground combat can be improved but space ship combat is FUN.

DDO - lots of the dungeon missions are similar enough to SP quest chains.

TSW - i have not played this game ... does the story mission work well in a SP or co-op mode?

  SuperNick

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2/08/13 11:26:08 AM#2

TERA, while not a top notch successful MMO, has a really fun combat system.

Take that combat system, the BAM fights, add a story with cinematics and you got a real good SP game potentially.

  Kaneth

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2/08/13 11:37:57 AM#3

I think with some tweaking, GW2 would actually make for an interesting single player/co-op game. Each area is already somewhat set up for solo play with the heart npcs, and the way the dynamic events work would work well. Things they could tweak would be stuff like; make the environmental changes that happen during events permanent until player interaction changes it, add more storyline content that can take place in the world since it's single player. They would of course have to tweak things like champion mobs to scale for solo-various sizes of co-op play. Adding storyline content that is a branching, but somewhat linear progression that ends with the boss of the area spawning.

Of course that would make the SP version of GW2 more like GW1 in many regards.

  azzamasin

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2/08/13 11:45:32 AM#4
Dont care.  I really never play single player games.  I have a shelf full of half finished games because every tiem I start one up I feel lonely with it not being an MMO.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  nariusseldon

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OP  2/08/13 11:48:45 AM#5
Originally posted by SuperNick

TERA, while not a top notch successful MMO, has a really fun combat system.

Take that combat system, the BAM fights, add a story with cinematics and you got a real good SP game potentially.

Isn't Tera going F2P soon? May be i should check it out. Is the combat really fun?

  Benedikt

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2/08/13 11:49:35 AM#6
TSW definitelly
  nariusseldon

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OP  2/08/13 11:49:59 AM#7
Originally posted by azzamasin
Dont care.  I really never play single player games.  I have a shelf full of half finished games because every tiem I start one up I feel lonely with it not being an MMO.

Why do you even buy them? Isn't that kind of silly buying games you do not like? If you have a full shelf .. you can't claim you didn't know that you don't like SP games.

  Aeonblades

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2/08/13 11:51:16 AM#8
SWTOR, TERA, GW2, TSW, DDO, AoC (for PvE) the list goes on

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  ShakyMo

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2/08/13 12:13:10 PM#9
Tsw actually manages to have an rpg bit as good as single player rpgs, so i would say that.
  Mardukk

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2/08/13 12:16:40 PM#10
TSW.
  nariusseldon

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OP  2/08/13 1:00:18 PM#11
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Tsw actually manages to have an rpg bit as good as single player rpgs, so i would say that.

this sounds like TSW is actually a game i need to play. Too bad it is not F2P so i can just sample it.

Would you say, if i play it as a SP game, it would be a decent one for what they charge?

  Ortwig

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2/08/13 3:38:35 PM#12
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Tsw actually manages to have an rpg bit as good as single player rpgs, so i would say that.

this sounds like TSW is actually a game i need to play. Too bad it is not F2P so i can just sample it.

Would you say, if i play it as a SP game, it would be a decent one for what they charge?

Definitely.  You get a lot of content for $30, plus there's the group stuff too (dungeons, the raid, lairs, cabals) if you decide to go back into MMO mode.  Investigations and sabotage missions alone are worth the price.

  nariusseldon

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OP  2/08/13 3:46:45 PM#13
Originally posted by Ortwig
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Tsw actually manages to have an rpg bit as good as single player rpgs, so i would say that.

this sounds like TSW is actually a game i need to play. Too bad it is not F2P so i can just sample it.

Would you say, if i play it as a SP game, it would be a decent one for what they charge?

Definitely.  You get a lot of content for $30, plus there's the group stuff too (dungeons, the raid, lairs, cabals) if you decide to go back into MMO mode.  Investigations and sabotage missions alone are worth the price.

$30 definitely is a reasonable price. I am also very interested in the unique setting. There is no other modern, conspiracy theory centric, with some lovecraft stuff type game out there.

  mikethk

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2/08/13 3:47:39 PM#14

PS2 i F2P and its pretty fun, also singleplayer...

 

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

2/08/13 3:52:13 PM#15
Originally posted by azzamasin
Dont care.  I really never play single player games.  I have a shelf full of half finished games because every tiem I start one up I feel lonely with it not being an MMO.

That.  And I got some really good ones I get so mad at myself for not returning to.  

 

The only exception being Sims 2.  There was way to much to do in that game to ever get bored if you get into the shaping and remodeling of custom content.  Game play itself could get stagnant but knowing I could recreate the Forgotten Realms myself was nice.  And going online to see what others had created in the way of drow, elves, dragons, caves and what-nots was sort of community.

 

But yeah, visa-versa this thread to make it interesting.

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  nariusseldon

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OP  2/08/13 4:02:01 PM#16
Originally posted by mikethk

PS2 i F2P and its pretty fun, also singleplayer...

 

uh? You are talking about planetside 2, right? How is that SP? Isn't that large battle online PvP? I do like that game but it does not fit in this thread.

  Theocritus

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2/08/13 4:37:11 PM#17
TSW and LoTRO were both pretty much made as single player games....I wouldn't say either one was good but they appeal to some....To me having a storyline with my character just standing as a deaf mute is pretty ridiculous....i'd rather play an Asian grinder than watch cut scenes and listen to voice acting.
  VonTakala

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2/08/13 4:46:32 PM#18
Originally posted by nariusseldon

There were threads discussing what single player games should be made into MMOs. I figure i will try something new and have the question reversed.

Here is my list:

TOR - this is begging to be a single player game. I think it is a mistake not to just do an online KOTOR with better combat.

STO - some of the story missions can probably done very well as a SP game. Ground combat can be improved but space ship combat is FUN.

DDO - lots of the dungeon missions are similar enough to SP quest chains.

TSW - i have not played this game ... does the story mission work well in a SP or co-op mode?

SWTOR was first on your list, and first on mine as well.

Ok so there's some multi-player battlefields thrown in, but the original solo-play Neverwinter games did that too, you'd play the game solo and then if you really-really wanted to you could setup a server, similar to Unreal Tournament or Quake, plus a toolset to build stuff and whatnot.

Wait, SWTOR doesn't provide you with tools to build stuff in-game, scratch that last part. :)

  nariusseldon

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OP  2/10/13 2:10:53 PM#19
Originally posted by Theocritus
TSW and LoTRO were both pretty much made as single player games....I wouldn't say either one was good but they appeal to some....To me having a storyline with my character just standing as a deaf mute is pretty ridiculous....i'd rather play an Asian grinder than watch cut scenes and listen to voice acting.

Really? You don't play single playing games? Cutscenes are pretty much standard now.

And there are some GOOD stories. Deus Ex. Dishonored. Even Dead Space 3. I wouldn't want the storyline to be cut out of these games.

  Rayshe

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2/10/13 2:19:08 PM#20

I disagree that TSW would work well as a singleplayer RPG, Combat would need a overhall, Removal of all quests that give Signets since without Purple gear you cant solo them. Removal of the multiplayer content being Lairs and Dungeons or make them easy enough to do so that one player could do them (AKA take away their broadsword and give them a nerf bat) Simply put to make it a good SPRPG you would basically drop a Nerf bomb on the entire project. Sorry i like my difficulty where it is.

 

Also given that you dont hit your true strength in the game until you organize a 5man group. TSW isnt like WoW where what somone brings with them is completely meaningless. Synergy has 2 levers, Player Synergy and Group Synergy. By cutting out the group synergy your simply making the game boring and simple.

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