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  Aerowyn

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2/07/13 7:42:24 PM#121
Originally posted by knapu

One thing that is saying this game is a fail becouse its made by CRYPTIC

Another problem is that they are trying to scum people by changing pre order  to become a founder.

which is complete BS since the money from those ,, founders,, want most surley not go into development of the game only to theyre pockets .

So have fun by getting ripped off the last penny , i just gonna sit back and enjoy .

and i assume you have some proof on this? or just another one angry that not everything is given to them in a f2p game.. honestly how can people be getting mad about completely optional packs you can buy when the game is 100% free to download and play

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  JimmyYO

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OP  2/07/13 7:44:41 PM#122
Originally posted by craftseeker
 

You know that high pitched whine you hear in the background?

 

That is the second harmonic of the sound of Gary Gygax spinning in his grave at over 40 kHtz.

Truer words never spoken.

  GrayGhost79

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2/07/13 7:48:38 PM#123
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by Draemos
Originally posted by JimmyYO

To be fair I really meant this game is terrible for D&D fans but since that is their target audience, given the D&D/Neverwinter name, that still does make it awful. If you're a Tera/WoW/GW2 fan this game might be worth checking out.

That said, I respectfully request that cryptic change the name of this game to "Plungeons and Plagons" or "Severwinter" or some combination of the two, in an attempt to accurately portray the game and not mislead true D&D fans.

Someone would have to be a retarded monkey to get misled.  This game has trumpeted the action MMO card from day 1... Plus it's CRYPTIC. Cryptic isn't going to make some complicated super deep dice-roll game, that's like the opposite of what they are good at.  Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew it was going to be a loose representation of a D&d rule set  with  A Forgotten Realms backdrop.

Yep and the D&D fans have a right to run the game into the ground for using a well known name for cash grabbing purposes.

Do we all really have to do this dance every time a new game releases? People give negative opinions on a game, fanboys use the "it's not released to most people and you can't know from videos." Then beta is released and the fanboys say "it's just beta." Then launch "let them iron out the issues." 1 month "it's only been a month." Then "It's only been 6 months." Then "Hey 2k people are gold members the game must be good and therefore you're wrong."

Honestly guys just take the critism, it's only going to get worse from here.

Could you refrain from trying to speak for all D&D fans? As a D&D fan I disagree with you. D&D 4.0 is clearly represented in Neverwinter Online any D&D fan can tell you that. Love it or hate it you can clearly see the 4.0 influence, that is if you've ever played 4.0. 

 

Criticize away, but just make sure you understand you are speaking for yourself and not D&D fans. 

  Ryowulf

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Joined: 8/28/05
Posts: 667

2/07/13 7:50:05 PM#124

I am guessing someone pointed this out to the OP all ready, but you know d&d the table top game started with just a few classes right? Thief, Wizard, Fighter, Cleric where do you think that all started?

It was said in one of the articles that the devs are bringing more classes.

This isn't even open beta yet.

  darkhalf357x

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Joined: 1/25/12
Posts: 1086

I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

2/07/13 7:54:38 PM#125
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by Draemos
Originally posted by JimmyYO

To be fair I really meant this game is terrible for D&D fans but since that is their target audience, given the D&D/Neverwinter name, that still does make it awful. If you're a Tera/WoW/GW2 fan this game might be worth checking out.

That said, I respectfully request that cryptic change the name of this game to "Plungeons and Plagons" or "Severwinter" or some combination of the two, in an attempt to accurately portray the game and not mislead true D&D fans.

Someone would have to be a retarded monkey to get misled.  This game has trumpeted the action MMO card from day 1... Plus it's CRYPTIC. Cryptic isn't going to make some complicated super deep dice-roll game, that's like the opposite of what they are good at.  Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew it was going to be a loose representation of a D&d rule set  with  A Forgotten Realms backdrop.

Yep and the D&D fans have a right to run the game into the ground for using a well known name for cash grabbing purposes.

Do we all really have to do this dance every time a new game releases? People give negative opinions on a game, fanboys use the "it's not released to most people and you can't know from videos." Then beta is released and the fanboys say "it's just beta." Then launch "let them iron out the issues." 1 month "it's only been a month." Then "It's only been 6 months." Then "Hey 2k people are gold members the game must be good and therefore you're wrong."

Honestly guys just take the critism, it's only going to get worse from here.

Guess thats why they call it OPINION.  Its not fact.  You dont have to listen to it (on either side).

Honestly, just state your opinion and stop trying to force others to believe what you do.  

  winter

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Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2220

2/07/13 7:54:38 PM#126
Originally posted by jayfeeler69
We have to remember anything craptic touches is well crap. They ruined Star Trek remember? Placing D & D on an mmo and having it be nothing like D & D is a disgrace. It will be f2p quicker than CO and STO. Of course Bill Murphy will say its great, he has to until it releases so he can get ad revenues. Its why no one takes MMORPG.COMs previews seriously. Remember when they told us TSW and FFXIV were great?

 Always funny when uninformed people post. Not like it hasn't been stated all over that neverwinter is free to play and free to download. So how is it people expect a ton of classes on release for a game they pay nothing at all to play? As far as F2P games go it seems a hell of alot less restrictive then most. Classes will be added they say, but the "I want everything for free and i want it now!" mentallity/entitlement crowd sure is sad.

  No itas not NWN3 but then at least its not a cheap Obsidian knock off like the piece of crap that NWN2 was.

 Will it be a fun game thats FREE? Looks like but opinions will always vary, at least I'll actually try it for myself before condeming it off hand.

  azzamasin

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Joined: 6/06/12
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We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

2/07/13 7:57:45 PM#127
Originally posted by JimmyYO

To be fair I really meant this game is terrible for D&D fans but since that is their target audience, given the D&D/Neverwinter name, that still does make it awful. If you're a Tera/WoW/GW2 fan this game might be worth checking out.

That said, I respectfully request that cryptic change the name of this game to "Plungeons and Plagons" or "Severwinter" or some combination of the two, in an attempt to accurately portray the game and not mislead true D&D fans.

Was Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance terrible for D&D fans?

 

 

Or better yet its bad for you as a fan of D&D .  I know plenty of fans, most on the official forums who are hardcore D&D guru's many coming from NWN1&2 and DDO who are really excited for NWO.  SO how bout we not use absolutes when dealing with emotions....k?

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  azzamasin

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We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

2/07/13 8:00:49 PM#128
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by craftseeker
 

You know that high pitched whine you hear in the background?

 

That is the second harmonic of the sound of Gary Gygax spinning in his grave at over 40 kHtz.

Truer words never spoken.

Then Gary and Dave Arneson should of never sold out to "the man".  Sorry but I am sure if Gary was alive today he would be thrilled because his designs made him a multi-millionaire.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Vesavius

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2/07/13 8:07:34 PM#129
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by Draemos
Originally posted by JimmyYO

To be fair I really meant this game is terrible for D&D fans but since that is their target audience, given the D&D/Neverwinter name, that still does make it awful. If you're a Tera/WoW/GW2 fan this game might be worth checking out.

That said, I respectfully request that cryptic change the name of this game to "Plungeons and Plagons" or "Severwinter" or some combination of the two, in an attempt to accurately portray the game and not mislead true D&D fans.

Someone would have to be a retarded monkey to get misled.  This game has trumpeted the action MMO card from day 1... Plus it's CRYPTIC. Cryptic isn't going to make some complicated super deep dice-roll game, that's like the opposite of what they are good at.  Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew it was going to be a loose representation of a D&d rule set  with  A Forgotten Realms backdrop.

Yep and the D&D fans have a right to run the game into the ground for using a well known name for cash grabbing purposes.

Do we all really have to do this dance every time a new game releases? People give negative opinions on a game, fanboys use the "it's not released to most people and you can't know from videos." Then beta is released and the fanboys say "it's just beta." Then launch "let them iron out the issues." 1 month "it's only been a month." Then "It's only been 6 months." Then "Hey 2k people are gold members the game must be good and therefore you're wrong."

Honestly guys just take the critism, it's only going to get worse from here.

Could you refrain from trying to speak for all D&D fans? As a D&D fan I disagree with you. D&D 4.0 is clearly represented in Neverwinter Online any D&D fan can tell you that. Love it or hate it you can clearly see the 4.0 influence, that is if you've ever played 4.0. 

 

I only have a passing familiarity with 4E... can you share where you see that influence and clear representation with those that might not know as mch as you?

  tank017

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Joined: 7/09/06
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2/07/13 8:15:03 PM#130

If I was a betting man,I'd bet that Neverwinter and Elder Scrolls will flop..

 

its what Ive come to expect from MMO's today.

 

I may go back to MMO's that I still enjoy,but my days of buying new ones on release are over.

 

As a customer,the MMO industry has pretty much lost me.

  Crynswind

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Posts: 307

2/07/13 8:23:42 PM#131

Just watch the Total Biscuit video, IMO this is going to be another Cryptic game, i mean come on... it looks so generic.

 

And the combat... oh my god... the combat.

  Talonsin

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Joined: 7/19/06
Posts: 1027

2/07/13 8:23:52 PM#132
Originally posted by SBFord
Neverwinter will launch with five classes as far as we know but if you look at any credible D&D site, there are a ton of other classes that can and undoubtedly will be added. 

Be careful...  I think the same thing was said for Klingon content in STO.

  winter

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Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2220

2/07/13 8:32:57 PM#133
Originally posted by turkishmafia

Hey, guess what?

TESO will be the same and so will the next game after that and so on.

Until they all change their WoW-inspired, money-grabbing attempts at these failures they like to call games (let alone MMORPGs), they will all be seen for how terrible they are once their honeymoon periods are over.

Love what you do, do it without ulterior motives, and money and fame will follow. Do it for the wrong reasons and you lose.

 Because free to download and free to play is money-grabbing? Because of course in your wolrd games can spend years in developement to add all classes on launch with no revnue, sure thats um reality...not.

"Love what you do, do it without ulterior motives, and money and fame will follow." Sadly I can't think of any game that this is totally true about going all the way back to EQ. All MMO's that have been released and had any success have been grounded in the fact their developemnt was limited by money on hand and required a return on investments once released. No deveopers, programmers, graphic and sound artisit do not actually survive just on air and the charity of some self entitled gamers.

  Seriously didn't see much of anything in Neverwinter that appears WoW inspired as you claim but then in your mind everything is WoW so no point really debating it

  winter

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2/07/13 8:37:26 PM#134
Originally posted by tank017

If I was a betting man,I'd bet that Neverwinter and Elder Scrolls will flop..

 

its what Ive come to expect from MMO's today.

 

I may go back to MMO's that I still enjoy,but my days of buying new ones on release are over.

 

As a customer,the MMO industry has pretty much lost me.

 Perhaps just maybe its not the All the MMO industry, maybe just maybe its alittle bit you. You the burnt out jaded gamer you've become? Nah couldn't be but I digress, my apologies

  JimmyYO

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OP  2/07/13 8:43:37 PM#135
I only have a passing familiarity with 4E... can you share where you see that influence and clear representation with those that might not know as mch as you?

Well for starters the game has dwarves in it! It also has swords and armor and a place called Neverwinter.  Plus it......well.......hmmm? I got nothing.

  winter

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Posts: 2220

2/07/13 8:44:56 PM#136
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by Draemos
Originally posted by JimmyYO

To be fair I really meant this game is terrible for D&D fans but since that is their target audience, given the D&D/Neverwinter name, that still does make it awful. If you're a Tera/WoW/GW2 fan this game might be worth checking out.

That said, I respectfully request that cryptic change the name of this game to "Plungeons and Plagons" or "Severwinter" or some combination of the two, in an attempt to accurately portray the game and not mislead true D&D fans.

Someone would have to be a retarded monkey to get misled.  This game has trumpeted the action MMO card from day 1... Plus it's CRYPTIC. Cryptic isn't going to make some complicated super deep dice-roll game, that's like the opposite of what they are good at.  Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew it was going to be a loose representation of a D&d rule set  with  A Forgotten Realms backdrop.

Yep and the D&D fans have a right to run the game into the ground for using a well known name for cash grabbing purposes.

Do we all really have to do this dance every time a new game releases? People give negative opinions on a game, fanboys use the "it's not released to most people and you can't know from videos." Then beta is released and the fanboys say "it's just beta." Then launch "let them iron out the issues." 1 month "it's only been a month." Then "It's only been 6 months." Then "Hey 2k people are gold members the game must be good and therefore you're wrong."

Honestly guys just take the critism, it's only going to get worse from here.

Could you refrain from trying to speak for all D&D fans? As a D&D fan I disagree with you. D&D 4.0 is clearly represented in Neverwinter Online any D&D fan can tell you that. Love it or hate it you can clearly see the 4.0 influence, that is if you've ever played 4.0. 

 

I only have a passing familiarity with 4E... can you share where you see that influence and clear representation with those that might not know as mch as you?

 Still playing that card Vesavius? Truely if you really wanted to know why not find out for yourself? Surely your not gonna believe anything any random poster states to answer your question? Alittle googling and alittle reading isn't that hard a thing, and self enlightningment is generally considered a good thing.

   Not trying to squash your your intellectual curiousity just trying to direct it to a more reliable source. That of course assumes you want facts and not opinions.

  winter

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2/07/13 8:59:31 PM#137
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I only have a passing familiarity with 4E... can you share where you see that influence and clear representation with those that might not know as mch as you?

Well for starters the game has dwarves in it! It also has swords and armor and a place called Neverwinter.  Plus it......well.......hmmm? I got nothing.

 Prime example of someone who hasn't played the game and really doesn't know posting his opinion rather then any real fact. makes for interesting discussion no doubt but by the end of the day we really haven't learned anything, other then his opinion.

What the old saying?. Opinions are like assholes, everyone hass one and they usually stink.

  MadDemon64

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Why is it that fantasy trolls are vulnerable to fire, but internet trolls thrive on flame wars?

2/07/13 9:02:19 PM#138

From what I saw, the only thing I was disappointed in was the character creation, but then I realized something.

THE GAME IS STILL IN BETA.

As soon as I realized this, I accepted that most of my problems will likely be remedied before the game is released.

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  winter

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2/07/13 9:03:29 PM#139
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by craftseeker
 

You know that high pitched whine you hear in the background?

 

That is the second harmonic of the sound of Gary Gygax spinning in his grave at over 40 kHtz.

Truer words never spoken.

Then Gary and Dave Arneson should of never sold out to "the man".  Sorry but I am sure if Gary was alive today he would be thrilled because his designs made him a multi-millionaire.

^this^ though in all truthfullness everyone always thinks they know what a dead person they never meet would think if they were alive today, or what they are currently doing in their graves.

  Alber_gamer

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2/07/13 9:06:52 PM#140

This is mostly trolling as the OP has obviously not played the game.

 

The number of classes is definitely low, hope they'll add more.

 

That said, it's F2P, and I'll be trying it with my mates -for sure-. We have even planned already to take turn in making dungeon/adventures through the Foundry for the rest of us to run, as kind of semi-DMed adventures. 

 

Honestly? I can't wait to get my hands on it.

My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

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