Not sure about MoP figures, but cata sold over 4.7million in the first month and thats without china (which is about half of wows player base) who didn't get the expansion until July the following year

So, they always post China subscribers, but never post China expac sales?   

As a WoW player, that makes perfect sense to me for some reason.

I see it mostly as a reflection of how poorly other themeparks have done building market share.

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by dimnikar

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by dimnikar

We have a winner!

First post about how Chinese players aren't real people above my post, somewhere :)

 

 

 

 

edit: Nevermind how these "fake" players that only play for 1 hour then quit, continue to do this month after month, year on year.... :D :D :D

You clearly missed the point.  Nowhere did he say they werent players, he was talking about how Blizzard spins sub numbers.

Thats like McDonalds saying that they have 10 million active customers, when you find out that 7 million are people who bought 1 sandwhich 1 time and havent bought anything since.

It would be like GW2 claiming they have 3 million active players because they've sold 3 million boxes of the game.

Anybody who can't read between the lines is fooling themselves.

 

Unfortunately we'll never be able to prove anything without the data, but i would be willing to bet money that as far as north america and europe goes, and real honest to god ACTIVE subscribers, people who log in and play the game several times a week and maintain a sub (also not including multiple accounts per actual player), that its more like in the 1 to 1.5 million range.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Blizzard counts any player that's paid money to play in the past 30 days. It's written clear as day in their disclaimer *every time* they post sub numbers.

 

Yet after all these years, so many of you still come up with these insane theories, claiming it's all a big "mystery" just because you fail to understand any of it.

 

I guess THUNDER and LIGHTNING must be really confusing for you.

 

edit: I'm out, just wanted to get a taste of the first batch of crazy on here. Have a nice weekend!

Not my fault you're incapable of using your brain.  Explain this bat man, if they have 9.6 million active subscribers, why then did they only sell 4.3 million copies of cataclysm, and barely over 3 million copies of pandaria?

Every other MMO in history thats made an expansion to their game sold said expansion to better than 90% of their active subscribers at the time.  Yet, WOW only manages 30-40% of their supposed active subs?

So, you insult my intelligence, yet you're the one who blindly accepts something thats told to you without question?  Yeah, im the one who is confused...

That's because only about 4-4.5 mill are actually able to buy it.China's part of the pie is internet cafe's and I'm pretty sure the cafe owner's just pay for a license to use said software.You could have 1000 people using 1 cafe and not count as a copy sold.

I could be wrong,but I'm pretty sure that's how it work's.When Cata released there were closer to 12 mill sub's and that's why 4.7 mill sales.

This never gets old.

Wait....it does.

Originally posted by Slappy1

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by dimnikar

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by dimnikar

We have a winner!

First post about how Chinese players aren't real people above my post, somewhere :)

 

 

 

 

edit: Nevermind how these "fake" players that only play for 1 hour then quit, continue to do this month after month, year on year.... :D :D :D

You clearly missed the point.  Nowhere did he say they werent players, he was talking about how Blizzard spins sub numbers.

Thats like McDonalds saying that they have 10 million active customers, when you find out that 7 million are people who bought 1 sandwhich 1 time and havent bought anything since.

It would be like GW2 claiming they have 3 million active players because they've sold 3 million boxes of the game.

Anybody who can't read between the lines is fooling themselves.

 

Unfortunately we'll never be able to prove anything without the data, but i would be willing to bet money that as far as north america and europe goes, and real honest to god ACTIVE subscribers, people who log in and play the game several times a week and maintain a sub (also not including multiple accounts per actual player), that its more like in the 1 to 1.5 million range.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Blizzard counts any player that's paid money to play in the past 30 days. It's written clear as day in their disclaimer *every time* they post sub numbers.

 

Yet after all these years, so many of you still come up with these insane theories, claiming it's all a big "mystery" just because you fail to understand any of it.

 

I guess THUNDER and LIGHTNING must be really confusing for you.

 

edit: I'm out, just wanted to get a taste of the first batch of crazy on here. Have a nice weekend!

Not my fault you're incapable of using your brain.  Explain this bat man, if they have 9.6 million active subscribers, why then did they only sell 4.3 million copies of cataclysm, and barely over 3 million copies of pandaria?

Every other MMO in history thats made an expansion to their game sold said expansion to better than 90% of their active subscribers at the time.  Yet, WOW only manages 30-40% of their supposed active subs?

So, you insult my intelligence, yet you're the one who blindly accepts something thats told to you without question?  Yeah, im the one who is confused...

That's because only about 4-4.5 mill are actually able to buy it.China's part of the pie is internet cafe's and I'm pretty sure the cafe owner's just pay for a license to use said software.You could have 1000 people using 1 cafe and not count as a copy sold.

I could be wrong,but I'm pretty sure that's how it work's.When Cata released there were closer to 12 mill sub's and that's why 4.7 mill sales.

Not to mention that the expansions aren't mandatory to play the game.

Yeah, that simple :).

Originally posted by slickbizzle

 

Not sure about MoP figures, but cata sold over 4.7million in the first month and thats without china (which is about half of wows player base) who didn't get the expansion until July the following year

 

So, they always post China subscribers, but never post China expac sales?   

 

As a WoW player, that makes perfect sense to me for some reason.

 

 

 

Yeah it is a bit odd, but facts is facts.

Could be that they can actually see/track active players their end, where as they are relient on getting the sales figures from the outlets etc? /shrug

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This is when it was more pop hmmm..

Originally posted by birken

 

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This is when it was more pop hmmm..

There isn't a soul on this internet that will believe that that picture is from peak time.

Useless post is useless. Borderline trolling even.

I fail to see why this is news worthy.

Old games ARE supposed to lose subscribership overtime, because people are getting tired of playing the same thing and the graphics are getting outdated?

Originally posted by slickbizzle

 

Not sure about MoP figures, but cata sold over 4.7million in the first month and thats without china (which is about half of wows player base) who didn't get the expansion until July the following year

 

So, they always post China subscribers, but never post China expac sales?   

 

As a WoW player, that makes perfect sense to me for some reason.

 

 WOW doesn't charge China for expacs they get the game and all expacs free and just pay a hourly rate of a few pennies to play 

 

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by birken

 

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This is when it was more pop hmmm..

There isn't a soul on this internet that will believe that that picture is from peak time.

Useless post is useless. Borderline trolling even.

I could careless if this game sink or swims it a ok game. Just posting what i found dont be mad. If there are so many people playing 9.6 mil would it matter peak time or not to have so many low server?

Originally posted by birken

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by birken

 

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This is when it was more pop hmmm..

There isn't a soul on this internet that will believe that that picture is from peak time.

Useless post is useless. Borderline trolling even.

I could careless if this game sink or swims it a ok game. Just posting what i found dont be mad. If there are so many people playing 9.6 mil would it matter peak time or not to have so many low server?

People do sleep and work/go to school at around the same time, so yes it does matter

Originally posted by birken

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by birken

 

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This is when it was more pop hmmm..

There isn't a soul on this internet that will believe that that picture is from peak time.

Useless post is useless. Borderline trolling even.

I could careless if this game sink or swims it a ok game. Just posting what i found dont be mad. If there are so many people playing 9.6 mil would it matter peak time or not to have so many low server?

Ok...im going to pretend you willfully ignored the fact that you are showing 18 of the 246 North American servers (your screenshot shows the tab you are on btw), and that the 9.6 million number is global, and not just NA.

And I am also going to pretend anyone quoting the 3mil MoP first week sales actually believes the game has not sold a single copy since its first week...

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Originally posted by birken
Yea i forgot that in the agreement for blizzard everyone had to set there clocks to a certain time and go to bed at a certain  time. Like i said i dont care like everyone says no screen shot didnt happen well hmm, I am just saying some one is lieing.

No but wow's servers are grouped by time zone, people who live in the same time zone tend to have similar sleep/work patterns. Thats how peak and off peak times work, peak times are the times when most people arent at work/school or asleep.

Originally posted by birken
I think you are missing the point.  You WoW fan can go up in arms all you want someone is lieing.  I like the game but i can do math also.

Then you can math your way into understanding that no subscriber plays 24/7. Even if every player played like a full time job, 8 hours a day, that would leave 16 hours off-line. Plus some people only play for short times, others only on weekeds, or on a Tuesday...or whatever. So if you are looking at the server status expecting to see 9.6 million people on at the same time, you are going to be dissapointed